Just heard on the news Rud is sending $35ml to Shrilanker to stop the boat people.
Thats an insult to the Aussie tax payer & to our own needs.
Think what that could do for our medical ,aged care ,schools etc.
Its time they learn't the meaning of the word NO.
Cruising Granny said
08:04 AM Nov 10, 2009
Hear! Hear! They play pirates holding our Customs vessel to ransom while they make their demands to stay in Oz. Meanwhile they pour bottled water over the side (TV news yesterday), and we have to feed and accommodate them while they're on board the Customs vessel, refusing, refusing to leave! They have no right to refuse to leave.
Piracy is an international crime.
Pay Srilanka? I don't think so. They should pay us for the expenses incurred in looking after their people while we extricate them from our boat, our islands, our shores and our detention centres.
Send the illegal immigrants back where they came from. They're illegal.
They pay a lot of money to con their way over here in leadky boats, so they are definitely refugees.
Send the b...ds home!
Gary and Kerry said
08:30 AM Nov 10, 2009
I have very strong views on this whole debacle however, some people may find my comments on this matter inflamatory (spelling) so i will leave it alone.
-- Edited by Gary and Kerry on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 07:36:10 AM
twobob said
08:35 AM Nov 10, 2009
Yep, I agree here. We Aussies need and expect a strong leader.
I have had enough of his teams, soft c0ck ways. We just survived a global financial crisis and this weak leader gives more of our money away, while raising the retirement age.
Not long now before they can be removed.
jimricho said
08:38 AM Nov 10, 2009
justcruisin01 wrote:
Just heard on the news Rud is sending $35ml to Shrilanker to stop the boat people.
Thats an insult to the Aussie tax payer & to our own needs.
Think what that could do for our medical ,aged care ,schools etc.
Its time they learn't the meaning of the word NO.
I'm sure the Sri Lankan government will be only too happy to have the Australian government and PM (via its Foreign Minister) telling them how to run their country????
We had a solution and it worked, but no, KRudd & Co. had to change it, didn't they?????
Cruising Granny said
08:47 AM Nov 10, 2009
No matter which party governs, they only make short term policies for the term of their government.
I can't remember when a party made a long term policy in the best interests of this nation, with the endorsement of the opposition, and not just the party.
They all seem to want to change the policies for change sake, but not always in everyone's best interest.
Meanwhile the weak and depleted opposition wastes all its time disagreeing with the government instead of building up its strengths to present and strong, united front at the next election.
Little boys playing big boys games.
I'm glad our forefathers had a bigger picture in mind when they settled this country.
biggles said
09:33 AM Nov 10, 2009
I would just like to know where that $35 mill ends up over there. I would suggest some leader of the government has just won lotto, Swiss bank account here it comes........
Ever notice that the criminals get everything, have all the rights under the sun & they are innocent until proven guilty - then be a motorist driving down the road 8 ks over the limit, you have no rights, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent. Sorry, my pet hate, Tax collectors with radar guns, dressed as Police officers.
The money thats spent to ping motorists speeding, red light camera's & parking. Still cannot walk around the City of Melbourne after dark and feel safe - no money, no plan, no revenue in it.....
I sit in my car while a copper fines me $100 plus dollars & 1 point while on the radio I hear the boat people hold our ship to ransom, we feed them, cower to their every need & then we send $35 mill to another country to stop them from coming over, no wonder the Government wants my money........ I feel better now that I know I'm doing my civic duty & helping to repay that large amount. I feel truely AUSTRALIAN....
The Flying Scotsman.
dave06 said
10:39 AM Nov 10, 2009
still dont see why we dont just patrol a sub out there with weapon capability and sink a few, make up our own "pirates" what do you reckon Basil arrrrrr!!
Disco Duck said
11:06 AM Nov 10, 2009
What I can't understand is why we are leaving our ship anchored in Indonesia, costing us so much money, when for the same price we could just sail the thing back to Colombo and get rid of them at home. I am sure if they are real refugees their own government would be only too happy to get them back??
Biggles........With a bit of luck some of that money will be grabbed by some corrupt Sri Lankan politician and then we may have a chance to get some back through one of the internet scams like the Nigerian scams. :)
I'm still pushing for the revolution folks!!
Basil Faulty said
12:14 PM Nov 10, 2009
I feel another FFT coming on.... Ok so can someone answer this; If these people can pay so much to try and get into the country by deceit and deception to these alleged people smugglers how can they possibly be penniless refugees to start with? Why not simply buy an airline ticket and claim assylum at the airport?
I think a tougher stance is needed at the baseline, Paying Sri Lanka to take it's own citizens back simply means that Sri lanka will say wow what a deal and will set up a quango in Columbo making boats to send people in so that they can reap the rewards, strewth the Sri Lankan Govt will be calling for vollunteers for Free ocean cruises....
Basically the problem in a nutshell is that good old Christian Free Australia is trying to deal honourably with corrupt Military dictatorships and the only way we seem to be able to deal with them is when in Rome do as the Romans do and offer bribes, which are eagerly accepted and the anti is upped on the next occasion....
Basil Faulty said
12:16 PM Nov 10, 2009
dave06 wrote:
still dont see why we dont just patrol a sub out there with weapon capability and sink a few, make up our own "pirates" what do you reckon Basil arrrrrr!!
There must be a solution, maybe we should not be so vigilant in our patrols maybe let them land then they would be invading and could be dealt with that way. Just worries me that GENUINE refugees are going without because we can't cope with the illegal ones....
Basil Faulty said
12:19 PM Nov 10, 2009
Gary and Kerry wrote:
I have very strong views on this whole debacle however, some people may find my comments on this matter inflamatory (spelling) so i will leave it alone.
-- Edited by Gary and Kerry on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 07:36:10 AM
I'd defend to the death your right to your opinions, express them!
Disco Duck said
12:20 PM Nov 10, 2009
You mean the Sri Lankan internet scams are out??
Goes to prove as we are saying more and more often and with more and more feeling......our Governments that we have elected are P**s-Weak!!
They need to start displaying some "Cajones" or else we will be walked over.....it's starting to happen now.
Why should we pay anyone to control their own citizens?? Beats the hell out of me.!! And what are we actually paying the money for.....................?? What will $35 mill get us from them?
Disco Duck said
12:27 PM Nov 10, 2009
Yeah Gary..............I think you should be allowed to express your opinion and if someone reads it, then they are free to agree, disagree or read something else. I don't think that your opinions should be muted purely because you think you might be a little controversial.
(Unless of course your opinions disagree with mine) LOL Just kidding.
dave06 said
12:37 PM Nov 10, 2009
you may lose the thread if you express the same opinion as I hold!, not by me mind but by she who holds the sword
Gary and Kerry said
12:58 PM Nov 10, 2009
I notice that Alex the refugee spokesperson on board the ship has admitted to a criminal past. He was deported from canada for serious gang related crimes. Given the above there is no way he would be allowed to enter the country legally so why should we let him in via the back door.
As for the rest of them i think the Australian goverment should declare that area a "live firing range" and those that choose to ignore the warning do so at their own peril.
Disco Duck said
12:58 PM Nov 10, 2009
You could try writing it nicely DaveO and not in your normal manner :) :)
dave06 said
01:00 PM Nov 10, 2009
ah! now Gary thats basically the same opinion that I hold! keep the news away and just let them "disappear" surely there is a "bermuda triangle" out there where boat people "mysteriously" disappear
biggles said
01:14 PM Nov 10, 2009
dave06 wrote:
still dont see why we dont just patrol a sub out there with weapon capability and sink a few, make up our own "pirates" what do you reckon Basil arrrrrr!!
Dave06 - can I be part of the crew on that sub - OH, only 1 request - can it be a very very fast sub & can I drive ???????? Do they have speed limits in International waters?
The Flying Scotsman
-- Edited by biggles on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 12:15:01 PM
Disco Duck said
01:17 PM Nov 10, 2009
I really take offence at those comments...................
Hang on...................how can I ??.......................I agree.
Sorry no arguement here.!!
I wanna drive the mirror ............periscope thingy...............pleeeeeese...........!!!
-- Edited by Disco Duck on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 12:22:09 PM
dave06 said
01:21 PM Nov 10, 2009
warwick you can drive, as long as I get that big cork gun on the front, I'd love to hear them squeal!!
what we could do is sail alongside, point the weapon toward them and all shout "BOOM" I reckon they would all die of "natural" causes
Disco Duck said
01:24 PM Nov 10, 2009
Now I've heard it all............!! How ridiculous it that???
An ex soldier called Biggles driving a submarine?? What next?
justcruisin01 said
05:24 PM Nov 10, 2009
This Government has only succeeded in doing one job VERY , VERY VERY WELL!!!!!!!!!!
STUFFING THIS COUNTRY ..................................
Disco Duck said
05:36 PM Nov 10, 2009
I am so glad we are not cynical us lot !!
dave06 said
05:37 PM Nov 10, 2009
always looking on the bright side arent we!
Cruising Granny said
11:23 PM Nov 10, 2009
Where did the so called Govt get all that money so suddenly?
The politicians social club slush fund?
Maybe they privatised something else, or it was the change left over from Telstra.
It's such a pity they didn't feel the need to re-invest it in the country and the people they are supposed to govern.
Basil Faulty said
10:45 AM Nov 11, 2009
Cruising Granny wrote:
Where did the so called Govt get all that money so suddenly? The politicians social club slush fund? Maybe they privatised something else, or it was the change left over from Telstra. It's such a pity they didn't feel the need to re-invest it in the country and the people they are supposed to govern.
Granny this sort of "Ex Gratia Bribe" thing always gets up my nose. If they put the money into health or education in THIS country instead we would be miles ahead....
Cruising Granny said
09:53 PM Nov 11, 2009
I received this in an email today - food for thought. While I understand, it's not my personal opinion, but I thought it appropriate to share to neither agree or disagree.
IF YOU CROSS THE NORTH KOREAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET 12 YEARS HARD LABOR.
IF YOU CROSS THE IRANIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU ARE DETAINED INDEFINITELY.
IF YOU CROSS THE AFGHAN BORDER ILLEGALLY, YOU GET SHOT.
IF YOU CROSS THE SAUDI ARABIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE JAILED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CHINESE BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU MAY NEVER BE HEARD FROM AGAIN.
IF YOU CROSS THE VENEZUELAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE BRANDED A SPY AND YOUR FATE WILL BE SEALED.
IF YOU CROSS THE CUBAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU WILL BE THROWN INTO POLITICAL PRISON TO
IF YOU CROSS THE AUSTRALIAN BORDER ILLEGALLY YOU GET A JOB, A DRIVERS LICENSE, SOCIAL SECURITY CARD, WELFARE, SUBSIDIZED RENT OR A LOAN TO BUY A HOUSE, FREE EDUCATION, FREE HEALTH CARE, AND IN MANY INSTANCES YOU CAN VOTE.
Ell&Mick said
12:26 PM Nov 12, 2009
And that about sums it up in a nut shell Granny
Gary and Kerry said
12:47 PM Nov 12, 2009
We all know the penalties for smuggling drugs in or out of most asiain countries.Some people might think they are pretty harsh but they do seem to be effective.Imagine the flood of drugs into our country if the asians relaxed their laws or didn't carry out any penalities metted out.
Rules are Rules......................stick to them or pay the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- Edited by Gary and Kerry on Thursday 12th of November 2009 12:28:14 PM
Thats an insult to the Aussie tax payer & to our own needs.
Think what that could do for our medical ,aged care ,schools etc.
Its time they learn't the meaning of the word NO.
-- Edited by Gary and Kerry on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 07:36:10 AM
I have had enough of his teams, soft c0ck ways. We just survived a global financial crisis and this weak leader gives more of our money away, while raising the retirement age.
Not long now before they can be removed.
We had a solution and it worked, but no, KRudd & Co. had to change it, didn't they?????
I think a tougher stance is needed at the baseline, Paying Sri Lanka to take it's own citizens back simply means that Sri lanka will say wow what a deal and will set up a quango in Columbo making boats to send people in so that they can reap the rewards, strewth the Sri Lankan Govt will be calling for vollunteers for Free ocean cruises....
Basically the problem in a nutshell is that good old Christian Free Australia is trying to deal honourably with corrupt Military dictatorships and the only way we seem to be able to deal with them is when in Rome do as the Romans do and offer bribes, which are eagerly accepted and the anti is upped on the next occasion....
There must be a solution, maybe we should not be so vigilant in our patrols maybe let them land then they would be invading and could be dealt with that way.
Just worries me that GENUINE refugees are going without because we can't cope with the illegal ones....
Given the above there is no way he would be allowed to enter the country legally so why should we let him in via the back door.
As for the rest of them i think the Australian goverment should declare that area a
"live firing range" and those that choose to ignore the warning do so at their own peril.
Do they have speed limits in International waters?
The Flying Scotsman
-- Edited by biggles on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 12:15:01 PM
Hang on...................how can I ??.......................I agree.
Sorry no arguement here.!!
I wanna drive the mirror ............periscope thingy...............pleeeeeese...........!!!
-- Edited by Disco Duck on Tuesday 10th of November 2009 12:22:09 PM
STUFFING THIS COUNTRY ..................................
We all know the penalties for smuggling drugs in or out of most asiain countries.Some people might think they are pretty harsh but they do seem to be effective.Imagine the flood of drugs into our country if the asians relaxed their laws or didn't carry out any penalities metted out.
Rules are Rules......................stick to them or pay the price!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
-- Edited by Gary and Kerry on Thursday 12th of November 2009 12:28:14 PM