the damage to our eco system done by these camels,  is pretty bad, in some places in wa,and nt.  i do think there should be a program , put in place by the state govements,to limit there numbers.   ( i cant see this happening,as the states of,qld.nt.and wa,are talking about drasticly reducing the numbers in there state rangers )       but to cull 400000 is just beyond belief.       it sounds as if someone is pushing there own barrow.           i dont here about the goat plague in the flinders ranges.      and to my personal thinking its about time we had a "BIG CULL" of these very predartry salt water crocs, "THEY KILL PEOPLE". 

I read somewhere where the camels in Australia were sought after by the middle east because they were considered to be of a better bloodstock than the middle eastern Camels so why not export them?

There is a very small live camel export industry for breeding stock mostly. Some are slaughtered for local and overseas consumption. There is a demand for the young breeders in the Middle East. There is a demand for the live export for human consumption. There is a demand for the meat trade for human consumption. Is there a picture forming here? Yes there is! It's a whole new industry which should be explored to a larger extent, to save the bush. Most of the camels are in the most remote, least populated regions of this country where they're out of sight, out of mind. They damage station fences as well as watering points, as well as the native flora. Their feet don't do much damage, but their big bodies push the bush before they eat it. Oh, did I mention the feral donkey population in the Kimberleys? There are thousands of them too. I feel such an ass!

Kenmarg, if you read the reports of every human fatality by Crocs, you would find that the reason the human was taken, was because he/she did something absolutely stupid!!! I get very angry when the Croc. always gets the blame. The most predatory creature on the planet, is MANKIND!!! The crocs are only doing what is natural. You don't jump into a Lions' cage, because you know damned well what would probably happen, so why do stupid things in croc. territory and expect nothing to happen. I lived on Cape York for a number of years, and in our creek, we had them all sizes, from Hatchlings, to one we estimated was at least 20 feet long. We never had a problem, and I still miss being able to see them in the wild. Can't stand seeing them in farms. Cheers, xina.

hi .      in answer to your love of crocs.          the wife and i were camped on the pentecost river,last year.           no rubish around the site,100mrtes  from the river bank.   when we got out of bed in the morning,this bloody big croc is laying in the bush beside our caravan,and he has a go at my wife.           i am not saying that we should get rid of them????   but they do need culling,  they are to aggresive,and there are to many. 

Xina. Couldn't agree more . People won't swim during the box jellyfish season so why so stupid to enter the crocs domain when it's croc season all year. To a croc eating a human has to be better than been fed time expired battery chooks.

How would you re-act if you woke one morning to find a stranger in your living room?  I'll bet you'd have a go at him too.
Cheers,
xina.

-- Edited by xina on Friday 12th of June 2009 06:24:56 PM

hi wombat.         for your info i was camped beside a public road.  ( gibb river road )  the depart of main roads ranger , "SHOT IT"

hi xina.     i hope that you are not comparing a human beeing to a animal.   i was just one of over 80,000 tourists in this area that year.      you are missing the point.     if a "human" cant  just pull up to sleep for the night,without getting ambushed,by a prehistoric monster????         GOD HELP US

Sorry, but I think YOU are missing the point. If they were invading your suburb, or city, I'd agree with you. But you are invading THEIR territory, so you have to be extra careful. If you can't understand that, then God help every animal on earth, when Humans decide that just because they want to go to a certain area, every animal that might be a danger to them there has to be eliminated. This actually does happen far too often. Cheers, xina.

As for comparing Human beings to Animals, we ARE also animals. Is it any wonder I prefer four-legged ones to most [not all] of the two legged ones. Cheers, xina.

xina.    if the ranger hadnt shot the thing,i would have.    by the way wombat &zina i thank you for enquiring how my wife is.           you people live in a different world to me .

Figured she must be OK or you would have mentioned it, seeing it was at least a bit over 6 months ago. Cheers, xina.

G'day,

Animals attack to:-

A) Protect themselves.

B) Protect their young.

C) Protect their territory from what they perceive to be a rival or an intruder intent on taking over said territory.

Man is the only animal that will kill for pleasure, simply to hang a trophy on the wall or to brag to his mates how brave he was to kill said animal with a high powered rifle, fitted with a scope, at somewhere around 100-300 meters distance. 

Personally I prefer the four legged variety at least you know where you stand with them.

John


-- Edited by JRH on Saturday 13th of June 2009 02:07:48 PM

-- Edited by JRH on Saturday 13th of June 2009 04:31:20 PM

mate you are so correct.About time that people took action for their own actions.

Wherever we travel, we must always bear in mind who, or what lives there. I mean flora and fauna, native or feral. Crocs live all around the northern coast of this country from Townsville or further south around as far south as Carnarvon on the west coast. If you don't bear it in mind at all times, you and your loved one could end up croc fodder. That's simply the law of the bush and beach in those regions. Camels, donkeys, goats, brumby horses and pigs are feral, and apart from a couple of diseases and parasites don't present a threat to humans. They do however, all present a huge threat to native habitat and the native critters which depend on the vegetation for survival - shelter and food. Most people I have spoken to recently in far north Qld agree the crocodile population has increased, and is spreading to find their own territory. If man and it's lifestyle gets in the way, the obvious is going to happen. Household pets and their owners can fall victim to the prehistoric but native reptile. By all means cull the feral species in the same way we muster and dispose of other animals such as sheep and cattle. Even the pet food industry can make good use of the meat like they do with kangaroo and wild pigs, bearing in mind roos aren't feral. Always look at the big picture objectively and not emotionally, in spite of any personal experiences. If you have a run in with your next door neighbour, do you want to shoot him too? That's the downside of suburbia and medium density housing. We have to learn to live on this earth and share it with all of its creatures. Watch and learn. Cheers Chris

G'day,

Just one verse from a song sang years ago by Marty Robbins and personally I think it says all.


Soon will be gone all the desert,
Cities will cover each hill.
All this will be just a fond memory.
Man walks among us, be still, be still.

Just my thoughts on the subject.

John

Ps: Edited for a typo.

-- Edited by JRH on Sunday 14th of June 2009 01:42:10 PM