I think its about time this thread was closed now. We have seen the controversy re Novak and its over...he is gone. Where he goes now and what he does is of no importance to me. This is a caravan and camping forum, so lets return to what we love doing best and that is helping each other in their travels, and forget about him.
-- Edited by Des and Jane on Monday 17th of January 2022 09:45:59 PM
Des, this thread is called "I Digress" for a reason.
Santa said
10:21 PM Jan 17, 2022
Nothing in the thread rattles my cage.
landy said
10:58 PM Jan 17, 2022
Des and Jane wrote:
I think its about time this thread was closed now. We have seen the controversy re Novak and its over...he is gone. Where he goes now and what he does is of no importance to me. This is a caravan and camping forum, so lets return to what we love doing best and that is helping each other in their travels, and forget about him.
-- Edited by Des and Jane on Monday 17th of January 2022 09:45:59 PM
This thread has 242 posts I think from that you can probably assume it is a subject our members feel very strongly about and want to discus, its also rare to see all our members (nearly ) so well behaved and joined in a common cause.
I'm sure the thread will close itself as interest drops, in the meantime if your not interested just skip over it.
A spokesperson for France's Ministry of Sport has warned there will be no exemption for unvaccinated players at the upcoming French Open in May.
The country recently introduced COVID-passes that require individuals to have received two doses to enter many venues, including sports venues like the grounds at Roland Garros.
"The rule is simple. The vaccine pass will be imposed, as soon as the law is promulgated, in establishments that were already subject to the health pass," the ministry said in a statement.
"This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson and this until further notice.
According to Novax, polluted water can be purified with a positive mindset. You can forget those expensive water filters and purifiers. Maybe this should be in the Hints and Tips section.
-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 18th of January 2022 05:31:27 AM
Mike Harding said
08:14 AM Jan 18, 2022
It will be interesting to see what Djokovic's sponsors do, I don't imagine they'll be pleased with all this negative publicity surrounding him and if he's not playing and winning major tournaments then he's not much use to them.
Even though he's won $200M in prize money(?) I'm sure most of his income comes from sponsorship and once they threaten to keep the cash he may decide the covid vaccine is not so bad after all?
With France and the USA saying he can't play Grand Slams there he's dug himself a deep hole with only one possible ladder out as far as I can see.
Rob Driver said
08:34 AM Jan 18, 2022
It hasnt gone unnoticed from me either Landy.
It reflects the thoughts (generally) of the majority.
*its also rare to see all our members (nearly ) so well behaved and joined in a common cause.*
DMaxer said
08:59 AM Jan 18, 2022
I liked that return of serve Mike, quite well done I thought. .
I wonder whether he being a resident of Monaco and Serbia likely to enter the EU in 2025 have any bearing on whether his visa will be denied or, in fact, whether he even needs a visa to enter France. I don't think Boris will be too concerned, probably hold another little party on the sly.
dorian said
09:05 AM Jan 18, 2022
It doesn't matter whether Djokovic can get into France without a visa. The French pollies are saying that he won't be able to get into the stadium without a vaccine pass, just like every French citizen.
the rocket said
09:47 AM Jan 18, 2022
has been top news item for days now. If thats the worst thing to happen today then thats ok but its not
, many people are starving in the world and thats more important to me.
Santa said
10:11 AM Jan 18, 2022
If the world addressed the major problem of over population, it wouldn't be an issue.
To take the thread back on topic, The Serbian fans of the GOAT are a fickle lot, seems journalists out numbered them when he arrived home.
Corndoggy said
11:42 AM Jan 18, 2022
We would see just how strong his antivax stand is if he is out off this years tennis grand slams. French looks like it could be, doubt it will be the same for English or the US. Then 2 out 4 ain't bad. Still a few $million in his pocket.
erad said
09:54 PM Jan 18, 2022
We haven't seen the end of the jocko saga yet. He didn't have a chance to play for the $4.4 million prize money, and of course his status as the greatest tennis player ever. Imagine what that must be worth in sponsorship. Sadly, I am sure that the Aust Govt, the Vic Govt, Tennis Australia and Uncle Tom's grandfather will all be drawn into an extensive legal battle. With that much ego and that much money at stake, a legal case is almost a certainty. And ultimately he will get a settlement out of it - who pays for that?? Guess who - I tmay not come out of our pockets directly, but we will all pay for it somehow.
Peter_n_Margaret said
12:36 AM Jan 19, 2022
Wanna bet? If he did try to sue the Australian Federal Government, he would certainly loose, and any court case with any one else would air all his dirty washing and he is smart enough to realise that the sponsors would not like that one little bit. Cheers, Peter
-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:37:20 AM
Whenarewethere said
05:36 AM Jan 19, 2022
It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.
Kebbin said
07:41 AM Jan 19, 2022
It's statements like this that has me bewildered at times, your here enjoying the benefits of Australia but your heritage is calling you, well please answer that call Whenarewethere as should all who find Australians & Australia insignificant.
At least here in Australia we try to be part of the World unlike many Countries in Europe, so do feel free to leave for a visit or a long stay maybe then Whenyouaregone you will realise how good you had life.
Rob Driver said
08:14 AM Jan 19, 2022
Whenarewethere wrote:
It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.
That is sad.
Wanda said
08:33 AM Jan 19, 2022
I don't think he was knocking Australians as such, well I don't THink, but in the scheme of things I have found in our travels that you could probably say just that.
So many people in so many different countries had no idea on firstly where Australia is or what we are about! They have very very limited knowledge of us at all.
He could maybe have worded it a little better, so lets not be too harsh on him
Ian
peter67 said
08:35 AM Jan 19, 2022
Perhaps he can base himself in Serbia and give us the latest news from that end. Please take the Landrover.
dogbox said
08:50 AM Jan 19, 2022
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Wanna bet? If he did try to sue the Australian Federal Government, he would certainly loose, and any court case with any one else would air all his dirty washing and he is smart enough to realise that the sponsors would not like that one little bit. Cheers, Peter
-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:37:20 AM
i read somewhere that the women who left due to her vaccine ( sputnik) was not on the approved list at the time, is making a claim for her expenses against tennis Australia not the Australian government
montie said
09:31 AM Jan 19, 2022
dogbox wrote:
Peter_n_Margaret wrote:
Wanna bet? If he did try to sue the Australian Federal Government, he would certainly loose, and any court case with any one else would air all his dirty washing and he is smart enough to realise that the sponsors would not like that one little bit. Cheers, Peter
-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:37:20 AM
i read somewhere that the women who left due to her vaccine ( sputnik) was not on the approved list at the time, is making a claim for her expenses against tennis Australia not the Australian government
When all the dust settles and the Open is over Mr Tiley will have some serious questions to answer.
It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.
Well you could piss off overseas and spend all your time somewhere that you consider more significant.
I'll be happy to be at the airport to give you a sending off.
-- Edited by Corndoggy on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 11:38:43 AM
Aus-Kiwi said
11:57 AM Jan 19, 2022
Youve misunderstood. Most dont know where Aust is . Some even think its a state of New Zealand . Near that other country Tasmania !
bilbo said
12:08 PM Jan 19, 2022
Whenarewethere wrote:
It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.
It is more than sad.
You have nailed your colours to the mast!!
Bilbo
KevinJ said
12:10 PM Jan 19, 2022
Is that like the UK being the little island off the coast of France?
Wanda said
12:11 PM Jan 19, 2022
Corndoggy wrote:
Whenarewethere wrote:
It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.
Well you could piss off overseas and spend all your time somewhere that you consider more significant.
I'll be happy to be at the airport to give you a sending off.
-- Edited by Corndoggy on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 11:38:43 AM
Slight over reaction I think.
You have obviously have not travelled OS
So many people we have come across over the years travelling OS have no idea about Australia
I think you missed his/the point!!
Ian
Ian
boab said
12:28 PM Jan 19, 2022
Whenarewethere is spot on most places i have been to think Sydney is the capitol they have never heard of Perth or Adelaide and all they know is its a big country with not many people in it you very rarely hear anything about Australia on tv radio or the news papers i love my country i would never live any where else but on the world stage we are very insignificant
DMaxer said
12:34 PM Jan 19, 2022
Back in the 1970's I spent three and a bit years overseas, based in the UK and then over to Europe each summer in the campervan. In London, all they knew about Australia was Rolf Harris and The Seekers and that we played cricket and had kangaroos. When I travelled up to the north of England they knew we played Rugby League, they had little interest in cricket and knew we had kangaroos. During the summers in Europe, the locals knew about our involvement in WW2, especially the French and the Germans but had no idea about the capital of Australia or its geography. They all seemed to have a story about an Aussie doctor or engineer that had worked in their town and the high regard they had for that person.
In the eighties I spent a fair bit of time in the USA and except for the vets who had served in WW2 or Vietnam, they had no idea about Oz. One even thought it was part of the Hawaiian Islands and that we spoke French.
I spent a fair bit of time in the NT in the 2000s and met many backpackers from Europe and the UK. These people were on their way "back home" and were all surprised how big Australian cities are and how big the country really is.
I think Australia is known overseas for events, like the Olympics or tennis, for movies and for some entertainers but I reckon if you lined up 100 overseas citizens and asked them the capital of Australia, what was our population, who was the leader and point out where the states were located on a map, very few would have a clue.
I think the majority of Australians have a greater idea of overseas countries than vice versa. That doesn't worry me, does it really matter?
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:35:46 PM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:56:46 PM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:57:46 PM
dorian said
01:03 PM Jan 19, 2022
An American comedian once said, "Until the Gulf War, I thought Iran was the past tense of Iraq". I think that sums up their knowledge of the world, let alone Australia.
Clarky 1 said
01:22 PM Jan 19, 2022
I have travelled overseas in recent previous years, before Covid of course.
I went to Hong Kong China and later on Singapore. I went to England many years ago.
I found the Hong Kong nationals very inquisitive about Australia although they were generally shy. They were nice people.
I found the Chinese generally rude and bombastic, particularly the males. They could not care less in a lot of cases.
I found the Singaporeans quite knowledgeable about Aus if generally speaking and asked questions when there was no language barrier.
England many years ago revealed their ignorance was mainly disguised as humour. Although Some of them are never happy.
*It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.*
Des, this thread is called "I Digress" for a reason.
Nothing in the thread rattles my cage.
This thread has 242 posts I think from that you can probably assume it is a subject our members feel very strongly about and want to discus, its also rare to see all
our members (nearly ) so well behaved and joined in a common cause.
I'm sure the thread will close itself as interest drops, in the meantime if your not interested just skip over it.
Landy
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-01-18/novak-djokovic-lands-in-serbia-after-deportation-from-australia/100762766
A spokesperson for France's Ministry of Sport has warned there will be no exemption for unvaccinated players at the upcoming French Open in May.
The country recently introduced COVID-passes that require individuals to have received two doses to enter many venues, including sports venues like the grounds at Roland Garros.
"The rule is simple. The vaccine pass will be imposed, as soon as the law is promulgated, in establishments that were already subject to the health pass," the ministry said in a statement.
"This will apply to everyone who is a spectator or a professional sportsperson and this until further notice.
I just found this:
https://www.eurosport.com/tennis/novak-djokovic-positive-emotions-can-purify-polluted-water_sto7744129/story.shtml
According to Novax, polluted water can be purified with a positive mindset. You can forget those expensive water filters and purifiers. Maybe this should be in the Hints and Tips section.
-- Edited by dorian on Tuesday 18th of January 2022 05:31:27 AM
It will be interesting to see what Djokovic's sponsors do, I don't imagine they'll be pleased with all this negative publicity surrounding him and if he's not playing and winning major tournaments then he's not much use to them.
Even though he's won $200M in prize money(?) I'm sure most of his income comes from sponsorship and once they threaten to keep the cash he may decide the covid vaccine is not so bad after all?
With France and the USA saying he can't play Grand Slams there he's dug himself a deep hole with only one possible ladder out as far as I can see.
It hasnt gone unnoticed from me either Landy.
It reflects the thoughts (generally) of the majority.
*its also rare to see all our members (nearly ) so well behaved and joined in a common cause.*
I liked that return of serve Mike, quite well done I thought.

.
I wonder whether he being a resident of Monaco and Serbia likely to enter the EU in 2025 have any bearing on whether his visa will be denied or, in fact, whether he even needs a visa to enter France. I don't think Boris will be too concerned, probably hold another little party on the sly.
has been top news item for days now. If thats the worst thing to happen today then thats ok but its not
, many people are starving in the world and thats more important to me.
If the world addressed the major problem of over population, it wouldn't be an issue.
To take the thread back on topic, The Serbian fans of the GOAT are a fickle lot, seems journalists out numbered them when he arrived home.
Wanna bet?
If he did try to sue the Australian Federal Government, he would certainly loose, and any court case with any one else would air all his dirty washing and he is smart enough to realise that the sponsors would not like that one little bit.
Cheers,
Peter
-- Edited by Peter_n_Margaret on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:37:20 AM
It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.
At least here in Australia we try to be part of the World unlike many Countries in Europe, so do feel free to leave for a visit or a long stay maybe then Whenyouaregone you will realise how good you had life.
That is sad.
So many people in so many different countries had no idea on firstly where Australia is or what we are about! They have very very limited knowledge of us at all.
He could maybe have worded it a little better, so lets not be too harsh on him
Ian
i read somewhere that the women who left due to her vaccine ( sputnik) was not on the approved list at the time, is making a claim for her expenses against tennis Australia not the Australian government
When all the dust settles and the Open is over Mr Tiley will have some serious questions to answer.
Well you could piss off overseas and spend all your time somewhere that you consider more significant.
I'll be happy to be at the airport to give you a sending off.
-- Edited by Corndoggy on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 11:38:43 AM
Whenarewethere wrote:
It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.
It is more than sad.
You have nailed your colours to the mast!!
Bilbo
Is that like the UK being the little island off the coast of France?
Slight over reaction I think.
You have obviously have not travelled OS
So many people we have come across over the years travelling OS have no idea about Australia
I think you missed his/the point!!
Ian
Ian
Back in the 1970's I spent three and a bit years overseas, based in the UK and then over to Europe each summer in the campervan. In London, all they knew about Australia was Rolf Harris and The Seekers and that we played cricket and had kangaroos. When I travelled up to the north of England they knew we played Rugby League, they had little interest in cricket and knew we had kangaroos. During the summers in Europe, the locals knew about our involvement in WW2, especially the French and the Germans but had no idea about the capital of Australia or its geography. They all seemed to have a story about an Aussie doctor or engineer that had worked in their town and the high regard they had for that person.
In the eighties I spent a fair bit of time in the USA and except for the vets who had served in WW2 or Vietnam, they had no idea about Oz. One even thought it was part of the Hawaiian Islands and that we spoke French.
I spent a fair bit of time in the NT in the 2000s and met many backpackers from Europe and the UK. These people were on their way "back home" and were all surprised how big Australian cities are and how big the country really is.
I think Australia is known overseas for events, like the Olympics or tennis, for movies and for some entertainers but I reckon if you lined up 100 overseas citizens and asked them the capital of Australia, what was our population, who was the leader and point out where the states were located on a map, very few would have a clue.
I think the majority of Australians have a greater idea of overseas countries than vice versa. That doesn't worry me, does it really matter?
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:35:46 PM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:56:46 PM
-- Edited by DMaxer on Wednesday 19th of January 2022 12:57:46 PM
I have travelled overseas in recent previous years, before Covid of course.

I went to Hong Kong China and later on Singapore. I went to England many years ago.
I found the Hong Kong nationals very inquisitive about Australia although they were generally shy. They were nice people.
I found the Chinese generally rude and bombastic, particularly the males. They could not care less in a lot of cases.
I found the Singaporeans quite knowledgeable about Aus if generally speaking and asked questions when there was no language barrier.
England many years ago revealed their ignorance was mainly disguised as humour. Although Some of them are never happy.
*It is only when one has spent time overseas you realise how insignificant Australia is.*
What a disgrace.