Remember when we all went to primary school and someone would start a game of Cowboys and Indians, well, that is what this forum is like when weights and WDHs are mentioned.
The call was, if I remember correctly, *Lets pick up sides* meaning pick wether you want to be a Cowboy or an Indian.
Yes it is childish that we then all play as a Cowboy or an Indian and keep shooting at each other until Mum comes along and takes us all inside.
In this topic the first arrow or gunshot was fired at the 18 th post. Go back and count and tell us all who the hell mentioned the virtues of a WDH in the GenY hitch topic. Until his post the only reference to a WDH was size until when he found a very learned member who apparently needed to be informed
I think it is a bit rich that AWL says this to a member on the third page when the entire topic has not been civil since the 18 th post.
Ivan, you referred to the possibility of the thread being locked. It was quite civil until some old rivalries were reactivated. Perhaps you and Yobarr could consider being a bit milder in your comments.
When we are all playing and we find that one or two players just never seem to run out of arrows, bullets or their horse just does not die then many of us dont enjoy playing any more.
I personally have given up arguing with those with opposite views to mine, that is my decision.
The players with the endless supply of ammo and the horse that wont die arent necessarily the winners as they are being judged by the silent majority who form their own opinions.
This will never change on this forum unless change is actually made.
The information on here will never be a resource.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Thursday 27th of January 2022 09:57:29 AM
Just an observation folks. What have we got a Weights and Measures forum for????????????????
Rob Driver said
04:06 PM Jan 27, 2022
Magnarc wrote:
Just an observation folks. What have we got a Weights and Measures forum for????????????????
Gday Magnarc,
Wasn't that the subforum that was provided so that the Grey Nomads, Transport Weights Measures and Physics expert, had his own podium to prevent what happened to this topic from post 18 on.?
Dougwe said
04:11 PM Jan 27, 2022
100% correct.
It would be good if Cindy could move this and future wrongly placed threads into said section.
iana said
05:19 PM Jan 27, 2022
Whooh !, the thread I put up had nothing to do with weights and measures, it was enquiring on what a "Gen Y Hitch" was, weights, WDH's etc. were brought on later by the few experts.
Rob Driver said
05:42 PM Jan 27, 2022
iana wrote:
Whooh !, the thread I put up had nothing to do with weights and measures, it was enquiring on what a "Gen Y Hitch" was, weights, WDH's etc. were brought on later by the few experts.
Hi Iana,
From the post #18 where it all started, where PeterD was unnecessarily challenged as to his knowledge of the pitfalls of the WDH by the expert. Until this post, the only mention of the WDH was comparing it in size to the GenY hitch
PeterD wrote:
oldbloke wrote:
Sooo, how MASSIVE is it? Looks much that same as any other WDH to me.
A WDH head is not particularly light, but this looks to have quite a bit more mass in it. In addition, the bars in a WDH setup negate the loading weight of its head with the uplift force they provide. The Gen Y hitch has none of that weight compensating advantage.
Yobarr said this
Hi Peter,You do,of course,realise that the 35-40kg weight of a WDH increases the load on the rear axle of the car by around 60kg before it is tensioned? A WDH DOES NOT change towball weight,so people who fit a WDH increase towball overhang, increasing the effects of yaw,add 60kg to the car's rear axle,and then proudly tell all who will listen that the WDH has taken 100kg (or whatever) off the rear axle,when in fact it has taken only 40kg off that axle. (100-60kg).Better to buy a more suitable car or a smaller van.Cheers
oldbloke said
02:56 PM Jan 29, 2022
I thought this was a good video on how to set up a HR WDH
In response to comments above. Just thought, like you help other members I thought I would assist you with your spelling and grammar. ;)
So much for no large red writing. ;)
Well, its been a couple of days and Im still waiting for a response regarding yobarr correcting the of the HR chart which has I might add, has EXAMPLE printed on it. So much for that?
Now I can contact Cindy and have this post closed, come on build a bridge and get over it, it is sooooo childish. Your call!
Brodie Allen said
01:36 PM Feb 9, 2022
So much misinformed and speculative misinformation shrouding the
conversation.
If you haven't studied the Anderson hitch you haven't done yourself any favours.
Only problem is that the dealers do their best to talk prospective purchasers
out of the Anderson - largely because of ignorance and inexperience with
that hitch.
I have found there to be many advantages with the Anderson - it's simplicity
is amazing - understanding it's technology is beyond many, but a good
tow with it on the vehicle will prove conclusive.
The H Reece is old and fat now.
yobarr said
07:36 PM Feb 9, 2022
Brodie Allen wrote:
So much misinformed and speculative misinformation shrouding the conversation.
If you haven't studied the Anderson hitch you haven't done yourself any favours.
Only problem is that the dealers do their best to talk prospective purchasers out of the Anderson - largely because of ignorance and inexperience with that hitch.
I have found there to be many advantages with the Anderson - it's simplicity is amazing - understanding it's technology is beyond many, but a good tow with it on the vehicle will prove conclusive.
The H Reece is old and fat now.
Would you kindly advise what "misinformed and speculative misinformation" actually is,and how it is "shrouding the conversation"? Never have I heard of misinformation being "misinformed and (or) speculative" but,as always,I am happy to learn.Cheers
Remember when we all went to primary school and someone would start a game of Cowboys and Indians, well, that is what this forum is like when weights and WDHs are mentioned.
The call was, if I remember correctly, *Lets pick up sides* meaning pick wether you want to be a Cowboy or an Indian.
Yes it is childish that we then all play as a Cowboy or an Indian and keep shooting at each other until Mum comes along and takes us all inside.
In this topic the first arrow or gunshot was fired at the 18 th post. Go back and count and tell us all who the hell mentioned the virtues of a WDH in the GenY hitch topic. Until his post the only reference to a WDH was size until when he found a very learned member who apparently needed to be informed
I think it is a bit rich that AWL says this to a member on the third page when the entire topic has not been civil since the 18 th post.
Ivan, you referred to the possibility of the thread being locked. It was quite civil until some old rivalries were reactivated. Perhaps you and Yobarr could consider being a bit milder in your comments.
When we are all playing and we find that one or two players just never seem to run out of arrows, bullets or their horse just does not die then many of us dont enjoy playing any more.
I personally have given up arguing with those with opposite views to mine, that is my decision.
The players with the endless supply of ammo and the horse that wont die arent necessarily the winners as they are being judged by the silent majority who form their own opinions.
This will never change on this forum unless change is actually made.
The information on here will never be a resource.
-- Edited by Rob Driver on Thursday 27th of January 2022 09:57:29 AM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Re72di5phM0
Cheers.
Just an observation folks. What have we got a Weights and Measures forum for????????????????
Gday Magnarc,
Wasn't that the subforum that was provided so that the Grey Nomads, Transport Weights Measures and Physics expert, had his own podium to prevent what happened to this topic from post 18 on.?
It would be good if Cindy could move this and future wrongly placed threads into said section.
Hi Iana,
From the post #18 where it all started, where PeterD was unnecessarily challenged as to his knowledge of the pitfalls of the WDH by the expert.
Until this post, the only mention of the WDH was comparing it in size to the GenY hitch
Yobarr said this
Hi Peter,You do,of course,realise that the 35-40kg weight of a WDH increases the load on the rear axle of the car by around 60kg before it is tensioned? A WDH DOES NOT change towball weight,so people who fit a WDH increase towball overhang, increasing the effects of yaw,add 60kg to the car's rear axle,and then proudly tell all who will listen that the WDH has taken 100kg (or whatever) off the rear axle,when in fact it has taken only 40kg off that axle. (100-60kg).Better to buy a more suitable car or a smaller van.Cheers
I thought this was a good video on how to set up a HR WDH
youtu.be/xqZ4WhQIG-0
conversation.
If you haven't studied the Anderson hitch you haven't done yourself any favours.
Only problem is that the dealers do their best to talk prospective purchasers
out of the Anderson - largely because of ignorance and inexperience with
that hitch.
I have found there to be many advantages with the Anderson - it's simplicity
is amazing - understanding it's technology is beyond many, but a good
tow with it on the vehicle will prove conclusive.
The H Reece is old and fat now.
Would you kindly advise what "misinformed and speculative misinformation" actually is,and how it is "shrouding the conversation"? Never have I heard of misinformation being "misinformed and (or) speculative" but,as always,I am happy to learn.Cheers