I started the post and have solved the enquiry . Generator Place who have, a store in every state sell a 4 m lead with a 15 amp plug each end. Works perfect..... I think end of story!!
Yes Vaughan 15 amp plug at each end is perfect
No mate, that would be extremely dangerous, any extension lead needs a plug one end and a socket the other end. Don't give people ideas now....
-- Edited by Delta18 on Thursday 28th of April 2016 09:35:22 PM
ShortNorth said
09:38 PM Apr 28, 2016
Very happy camper wrote:
Vaughan wrote:
I started the post and have solved the enquiry . Generator Place who have, a store in every state sell a 4 m lead with a 15 amp plug each end. Works perfect..... I think end of story!!
Yes Vaughan 15 amp plug at each end is perfect
Good one ! vhc - only thing you left the 'smiley' off the end of the quote !!
A plug at each end ? that's an instant recipe for disaster - maybe, just maybe, it should read a 15A plug at one and and a 15A SOCKET at the other end !
Vaughan said
10:15 PM Apr 28, 2016
oops sorry all, plug one end socket other all good
Aus-Kiwi said
10:46 PM Apr 28, 2016
Thank goodness it's only for fridge .. Thank goodness it wasn't a suburb !! Lol
Very happy camper said
11:28 PM Apr 28, 2016
Vaughan wrote:
oops sorry all, plug one end socket other all good
I knew what you meant <G>
Perfect ! Yea !
oldtrack123 said
11:42 PM Apr 28, 2016
Hi
It seems there are many people who do not understand what constitutes "ELECTRICAL WORK" & therefore requires a license to perform
For those Who THINK they know & others who may wish to know just what they can LEGALY do the below link should explain
It pretty well covers the requirements in Australia.
I often use the term that if it requires tools [screw driver spanner pliers etc to make or change a connection, Then it is electrical work.
That is a simple explanation which covers what most posters may consider OK. But in fact it goes a LOT further
Remember when you buy a lead in a shop they are mad by unskilled workers in another country who would not know what an electrician was .
oldtrack123 said
11:09 AM Apr 29, 2016
brickies wrote:
Remember when you buy a lead in a shop they are mad by unskilled workers in another country who would not know what an electrician was .
But They are not HAND made!!
Mass produced
iana said
09:48 AM Apr 30, 2016
I cannot believe the number of responses to such a simple question!
oldtrack123 said
11:06 AM Apr 30, 2016
iana wrote:
I cannot believe the number of responses to such a simple question!
Perhaps the question was not so simple.
Certainly some posters had strange ideas & now have ,hopefully, now learnt a little
rockylizard said
11:27 AM Apr 30, 2016
Vaughan wrote:
am looking for a 15amp extension lead around 2>3m to use to connect my Generator to my Van , any suggestions where I could buy one in W A .
Gday...
AWW C'mon Oldtrack How more simple could that question be ??????????
Straight forward, clear unambiguous specifications - and yet it attracted over 1390 views and about 70 comments.
Electrical threads - like an aerial view of the Murray River
Cheers - John
Aus-Kiwi said
12:20 PM Apr 30, 2016
This socket is safe .. https://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/191753591962
oldtrack123 said
04:33 PM Apr 30, 2016
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
This socket is safe .. https://www.ebay.com.au/ulk/itm/191753591962
Hylife said
10:42 PM May 4, 2016
2weis wrote:
hylife
thats not a cord with 2 different ends, which is what the comment is directed at, and I believe is illegal
brian
Sorry but it is exactly that. It IS a cord with two different ends (and a current limiting safety switch in between). One end is a 10amp plug and the other end is a 15amp socket. The 10amp plug can go into a genny or a household wall socket and the 15amp socket connects into your van wall receptacle.
-- Edited by Hylife on Wednesday 4th of May 2016 10:43:21 PM
2weis said
11:08 PM May 4, 2016
oldtrack123 wrote:
Tony Bev wrote:
Hello Vaughan
As Bill B has already said, would suit your needs
The description of that extension lead which Bill B has put up, says that it will go from a generator to a caravan. A generator will usually only suit a 10 amp male plug, and a caravan will usually only suit a 15 amp female socket. You could ask prior to purchasing if it does have these types of plug/socket
Alternatively if you require one urgently, you can purchase a heavy duty (5 meter length) of 10 amp extension cord from Bunnings,
Then have someone with electrical experience fit it in lieu of the 10 amp socket
Quote Then have someone with electrical experience fit it in lieu of the 10 amp socket"
ANY electrician caught do that would be in DEEP S**^
Such a lead is TOTALY ILLEGAL & for very good reasons!!!
It seems some people will never learn
hylife
this is the post you selectively quoted and it refers to altering a cord by putting a different end on it which I believe is illegal
not an appliance ,which has been submitted for testing and is approved for a purpose
if you want to score points and run other members down don't try to twist the post to suit your purpose
oldtrack123 said
11:15 PM May 4, 2016
2weis wrote:
oldtrack123 wrote:
Tony Bev wrote:
Hello Vaughan
As Bill B has already said, would suit your needs
The description of that extension lead which Bill B has put up, says that it will go from a generator to a caravan. A generator will usually only suit a 10 amp male plug, and a caravan will usually only suit a 15 amp female socket. You could ask prior to purchasing if it does have these types of plug/socket
Alternatively if you require one urgently, you can purchase a heavy duty (5 meter length) of 10 amp extension cord from Bunnings,
Then have someone with electrical experience fit it in lieu of the 10 amp socket
Quote Then have someone with electrical experience fit it in lieu of the 10 amp socket"
ANY electrician caught do that would be in DEEP S**^
Such a lead is TOTALY ILLEGAL & for very good reasons!!!
It seems some people will never learn
hylife
this is the post you selectively quoted and it refers to altering a cord by putting a different end on it which I believe is illegal
not an appliance ,which has been submitted for testing and is approved for a purpose
if you want to score points and run other members down don't try to twist the post to suit your purpose
oldtrack123 said
11:41 PM May 4, 2016
Hylife wrote:
ANY electrician caught do that would be in DEEP S**^
Such a lead is TOTALY ILLEGAL & for very good reasons!!!
It seems some people will never learn
What a load of scaremongering CR@P! It is absolutely NOT illegal. For two resons.
1/ It is not fixed wiring and so needs no qualifications to modify.
2/ There are actually these very same products sold in shops, albeit with an inbuilt safety switch capped at 10 amps.
Hi
Hi
Now just to finish off
The unit shown above is NOT approved FOR OUTDOOR use
So unless you have the generator under PERMANENT cover, shall not be used for outdoor use, such have to be weather proof.
And BEFORE anyone has the bright idea of temporary covers ,THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ,such protection SHALL be built in
.That is part of what makes the Ampfibian suitable for use ..IT IS WEATHER PROOF.!!
Tony Bev said
03:51 PM May 19, 2016
oldtrack123 wrote:
ShortNorth wrote:
Tony Bev wrote:
.................................The reason being is that 24 hours before I set off from home base, I like to run my three way fridge on 240 volt, and I do not have any 15 amp outlets in my home.
And ........................ that is the very reason that the Amp-Fibian was invented for !!!
Hi ShortNorth
Yes, AND FULLY compliant for such use
& for those who lack the understanding, It has nothing to do with shocks.
But a lot to do with damaging outlets & possible fires!!
That is why they:
are baned from sale
No electrician would make one up ,If he valued his license
& since it is licensed electrical work in most states, Anyone making one up is doing illegal electrical work, subject to heavy penalties if caught
If things go wrong, THEY could be in DEEP *&^#I suppose because 10000S run red lights or break other regulations that is oK too,until they get caught.
& filing the earth pin down on an approved 15A plug ext lead MAKES that lead unapproved,& therefor should not be used
AS for{ Quote} Delta18" Just as thousands of other caravanners have done and I bet none of them has burnt their house down nor died through doing it. I do understand that nobody can recommend doing this though"[ end quote]
How do you KNOW that Fires, or damage leading to potential fires have not occurred ??
Once such a non approved lead exists, the potential for overloads & fires exists, but not necessarily with the first few uses, but by progressive damage!!!
Of course the armchair experts ,all say it has not happened to me ,so it must be OK
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Monday 25th of April 2016 11:42:18 PM
Hello oldtrack123
This was the first time that I became aware of an Ampfibian
I take this opportunity to thank you for sharing your electrical knowledge
I have now purchased one, and was pleasantly surprised to see that it is Australian made
mjt57 said
07:43 PM May 19, 2016
Delta18 wrote: Just as thousands of other caravanners have done and I bet none of them has burnt their house down nor died through doing it. I do understand that nobody can recommend doing this though.
At work (I work in the power industry and with lot of sparkies - I have a restricted licence myself) we were discussing this. I have a 10a outlet in the garage near where my new (first) van will be parked. The rules say that if I replace the 10a GPO with a 15a one then it needs its own dedicated circuit and circuit breaker (and 4mm wire).
I asked what the difference was between a single dedicated 15a circuit and a 10a one loaded up with power boards, insofar as load capacity goes? The wiser ones shrugged and said, "dem's da rules...". Doesn't matter what actually happens out there in the wild and woolly world of DIY sparkydom or general home use, as long as the rules say whatever it is that they say.
So, I can do it legally two ways. I can spend $120 on a 10a to 15a adapter with an MCB/ELCB built in. Or I can spend $33 for a twin outlet 15a GPO, about $30 for cable and around $50 for an appropriate CB to insert into the switchboard, then 2 hours of one of the mates' labor and a slab of cans to go with it.
Or I can spend the $33 on the GPO and swap out the existing 10a one.
You can imagine what most people will do...
Aus-Kiwi said
08:05 PM May 19, 2016
2.5 will carry 15 amps easy . Yes dedicated circuit . He wanted to know . am looking for a 15amp extension lead around 2>3m to use to connect my "Generator" to my Van , any suggestions where I could buy one in W A . In quote ... He's got the lead he wanted !!
oldtrack123 said
09:16 PM May 19, 2016
mjt57 wrote:
.
Or I can spend the $33 on the GPO and swap out the existing 10a one.
You can imagine what most people will do...
Hi
I do not know what state you are in or what restricted license you hold
But I doubt that YOU can make ANY such changes legally !!!
The penalties if something goes wrong are quite high in most states.
Perhaps you should check that with your local Electrical safety office![ rather than mates]
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Thursday 19th of May 2016 09:17:18 PM
Delta18 said
12:09 PM May 20, 2016
I just made an extension lead WITHOUT tools! Is it legal?
No mate, that would be extremely dangerous, any extension lead needs a plug one end and a socket the other end. Don't give people ideas now....
-- Edited by Delta18 on Thursday 28th of April 2016 09:35:22 PM
Good one ! vhc - only thing you left the 'smiley' off the end of the quote !!
A plug at each end ? that's an instant recipe for disaster - maybe, just maybe, it should read a 15A plug at one and and a 15A SOCKET at the other end !
I knew what you meant <G>
Perfect ! Yea !
Hi
It seems there are many people who do not understand what constitutes "ELECTRICAL WORK" & therefore requires a license to perform
For those Who THINK they know & others who may wish to know just what they can LEGALY do the below link should explain
It pretty well covers the requirements in Australia.
I often use the term that if it requires tools [screw driver spanner pliers etc to make or change a connection, Then it is electrical work.
That is a simple explanation which covers what most posters may consider OK. But in fact it goes a LOT further
http://www.domain.com.au/news/what-not-to-diy-with-plumbing-and-electrical-20120619-20ld9/
But They are not HAND made!!
Mass produced
Perhaps the question was not so simple.
Certainly some posters had strange ideas & now have ,hopefully, now learnt a little
Sorry but it is exactly that. It IS a cord with two different ends (and a current limiting safety switch in between). One end is a 10amp plug and the other end is a 15amp socket. The 10amp plug can go into a genny or a household wall socket and the 15amp socket connects into your van wall receptacle.
-- Edited by Hylife on Wednesday 4th of May 2016 10:43:21 PM
hylife
this is the post you selectively quoted and it refers to altering a cord by putting a different end on it which I believe is illegal
not an appliance ,which has been submitted for testing and is approved for a purpose
if you want to score points and run other members down don't try to twist the post to suit your purpose
Hi
Now just to finish off
The unit shown above is NOT approved FOR OUTDOOR use
So unless you have the generator under PERMANENT cover, shall not be used for outdoor use, such have to be weather proof.
And BEFORE anyone has the bright idea of temporary covers ,THAT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE ,such protection SHALL be built in
.That is part of what makes the Ampfibian suitable for use ..IT IS WEATHER PROOF.!!
Hello oldtrack123
This was the first time that I became aware of an Ampfibian
I take this opportunity to thank you for sharing your electrical knowledge
I have now purchased one, and was pleasantly surprised to see that it is Australian made
At work (I work in the power industry and with lot of sparkies - I have a restricted licence myself) we were discussing this. I have a 10a outlet in the garage near where my new (first) van will be parked. The rules say that if I replace the 10a GPO with a 15a one then it needs its own dedicated circuit and circuit breaker (and 4mm wire).
I asked what the difference was between a single dedicated 15a circuit and a 10a one loaded up with power boards, insofar as load capacity goes? The wiser ones shrugged and said, "dem's da rules...". Doesn't matter what actually happens out there in the wild and woolly world of DIY sparkydom or general home use, as long as the rules say whatever it is that they say.
So, I can do it legally two ways. I can spend $120 on a 10a to 15a adapter with an MCB/ELCB built in. Or I can spend $33 for a twin outlet 15a GPO, about $30 for cable and around $50 for an appropriate CB to insert into the switchboard, then 2 hours of one of the mates' labor and a slab of cans to go with it.
Or I can spend the $33 on the GPO and swap out the existing 10a one.
You can imagine what most people will do...
Hi
I do not know what state you are in or what restricted license you hold
But I doubt that YOU can make ANY such changes legally !!!
The penalties if something goes wrong are quite high in most states.
Perhaps you should check that with your local Electrical safety office![ rather than mates]
-- Edited by oldtrack123 on Thursday 19th of May 2016 09:17:18 PM
I just made an extension lead WITHOUT tools! Is it legal?