We must remember a lot of older people in these homes have dementia as the article mentions.Also they were brought up when Australia had a white Australian policy up till 1958.
I am sure it will fade out in time,if I go for medical assistance,I don't care who sees me.
Black, brown , brindle, pink with purple spots as long as they known their job.
If they come out with a voodoo doll, or a smoking ceremony, I will run like hell.
msg said
04:04 PM Mar 22, 2023
Cuppa
What you haven't addressed is in that article they used old people who are not in their right mind as evidence that the older generation is racist. Couldn't they find a better example? Or in truth perhaps one is not available.
Cuppa said
04:28 PM Mar 22, 2023
msg wrote:
Cuppa
What you haven't addressed is in that article they used old people who are not in their right mind as evidence that the older generation is racist. Couldn't they find a better example? Or in truth perhaps one is not available.
msg
That assumes there is blame being laid. I didn't read that & I don't think that anyone would hold someone who was 'not in their right mind for what they might say or do. That said not all old people in care homes have 'lost their marbles', & it is not just the demented who display racist behaviour. Some do, some don't. Some just want care from someone who understands them, or whom they can understand.
The point that I think you may have missed is not so much the behaviour of old people per se, but the impact of that behaviour on those who are caring for the day in & day out. It may not be possible to change the old folk's behaviours , but it is entirely possible to do more to support the carers.
So the story is more about the impact of the racism than it is about the old folk who are displaying it in an industry which relies heavily upon an immigrant workforce, & an industry which for a long time has had difficulty in retaining staff long term.
msg said
04:32 PM Mar 22, 2023
Why did they need to use as an example then old people in a home. Why not at some social gathering of old people for instance.
Cuppa said
04:52 PM Mar 22, 2023
msg wrote:
Why did they need to use as an example then old people in a home. Why not at some social gathering of old people for instance.
Because it is a common problem in the aged care industry where there are a high percentage of immigrant workers.
RickJ said
04:58 PM Mar 22, 2023
A very simple example of the common use of the word racist happened to my partner yesterday.
She was shopping in one of the big duopoly stores and when she got to the checkout she was processed and she was asked for an amount of money and asked if she were paying by card or cash.
The goods came to under $50 so my partner tendered a $50 note.
The check out girl rang it up and the change was tendered. My partner did a quick check and the change was $2 short.
She mentioned it to the check out girl and the girl did not agree with her who claimed the change was correct.
My partner pointed out that although the amount of change was indicated on the till the check out girl actually took one dollar coins instead of two dollar coins as change.
The check out girl continued to argue and she called a supervisor.
When he came over my partner explained the situation and she showed him the change that she had been given.
The words of the supervisor astounded my partner.
His next statement was, *what, are you racist or something*
The checkout girl was of Asian appearance.
My partner cared less what race she was, the simple fact was that the check out girl was wrong with the change she tendered and the supervisor chose the old *race card* to solve a problem that was actually his problem.
Two dollars is not the issue but his comment is a sad reflection on how the word Racist is being used.
It should be noted the manager did not say that my partner had racial tendencies but used the word as a noun to support an emotional fuelled attack on my partner.
It also should be noted that the supervisor appeared to be of Indian decent.
I dont think that anyone who questions an incorrect sum as change needs to be called a racist, but this is what is being encouraged in this country on a regular basis.
Plain Truth said
05:12 PM Mar 22, 2023
Cuppa wrote:
msg wrote:
Why did they need to use as an example then old people in a home. Why not at some social gathering of old people for instance.
Because it is a common problem in the aged care industry where there are a high percentage of immigrant workers.
Stop pushing your racist agenda and read the article
His overall experience is positive one,
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Wednesday 22nd of March 2023 05:14:35 PM
Rick, in the story as you have told it, it is very clear who was in the wrong.
Such use of the word racist may well be used commonly, & incorrectly, but I nevertheless think it would be wrong to assume that any time the word is used is is being weaponised as it was there.
Racist behaviours are common & need to be called out.
Be assured that if I ever feel the need to call something you have said racist, I will endeavour to explain why.
It is not a term I use 'just to have a go'. I hope there will be no need, but I also hope that if I do that you might accept that I have no 'ulterior motive' as the manager in your story had, & that you will listen & consider. You may or may not not like my reasoning, but I hope you might trust that I am not trying to be hurtful. My motivation is to try to prevent the hurt that racism causes.
Plain Truth said
05:32 PM Mar 22, 2023
Cuppa wrote:
Rick, in the story as you have told it, it is very clear who was in the wrong.
Such use of the word racist may well be used commonly, & incorrectly, but I nevertheless think it would be wrong to assume that any time the word is used is is being weaponised as it was there.
Racist behaviours are common & need to be called out.
Be assured that if I ever feel the need to call something you have said racist, I will endeavour to explain why.
It is not a term I use 'just to have a go'. I hope there will be no need, but I also hope that if I do that you might accept that I have no 'ulterior motive' as the manager in your story had, & that you will listen & consider. You may or may not not like my reasoning, but I hope you might trust that I am not trying to be hurtful. My motivation is to try to prevent the hurt that racism causes.
Cuppa stop pushing your racist agenda,look at it in the context of the post.
As for he original poster,if he couldn't download ABC or BBC posts he wouldn't have much to say apart from a few comical Shovel posts.
Cuppa said
05:41 PM Mar 22, 2023
Plain Truth wrote:
Cuppa wrote:
msg wrote:
Why did they need to use as an example then old people in a home. Why not at some social gathering of old people for instance.
Because it is a common problem in the aged care industry where there are a high percentage of immigrant workers.
Stop pushing your racist agenda and read the article
His overall experience is positive one,
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Wednesday 22nd of March 2023 05:14:35 PM
It's a judgement call whether to just ignore your silly remark about me. I have your measure.
I may have chosen incorrectly , but really I think it is you who should read the full article, & actually read what is there.
We must remember a lot of older people in these homes have dementia as the article mentions.Also they were brought up when Australia had a white Australian policy up till 1958.
I am sure it will fade out in time,if I go for medical assistance,I don't care who sees me.
Black, brown , brindle, pink with purple spots as long as they known their job.
If they come out with a voodoo doll, or a smoking ceremony, I will run like hell.
Cuppa
What you haven't addressed is in that article they used old people who are not in their right mind as evidence that the older generation is racist. Couldn't they find a better example? Or in truth perhaps one is not available.
msg
That assumes there is blame being laid. I didn't read that & I don't think that anyone would hold someone who was 'not in their right mind for what they might say or do. That said not all old people in care homes have 'lost their marbles', & it is not just the demented who display racist behaviour. Some do, some don't. Some just want care from someone who understands them, or whom they can understand.
The point that I think you may have missed is not so much the behaviour of old people per se, but the impact of that behaviour on those who are caring for the day in & day out. It may not be possible to change the old folk's behaviours , but it is entirely possible to do more to support the carers.
So the story is more about the impact of the racism than it is about the old folk who are displaying it in an industry which relies heavily upon an immigrant workforce, & an industry which for a long time has had difficulty in retaining staff long term.
Because it is a common problem in the aged care industry where there are a high percentage of immigrant workers.
She was shopping in one of the big duopoly stores and when she got to the checkout she was processed and she was asked for an amount of money and asked if she were paying by card or cash.
The goods came to under $50 so my partner tendered a $50 note.
The check out girl rang it up and the change was tendered. My partner did a quick check and the change was $2 short.
She mentioned it to the check out girl and the girl did not agree with her who claimed the change was correct.
My partner pointed out that although the amount of change was indicated on the till the check out girl actually took one dollar coins instead of two dollar coins as change.
The check out girl continued to argue and she called a supervisor.
When he came over my partner explained the situation and she showed him the change that she had been given.
The words of the supervisor astounded my partner.
His next statement was, *what, are you racist or something*
The checkout girl was of Asian appearance.
My partner cared less what race she was, the simple fact was that the check out girl was wrong with the change she tendered and the supervisor chose the old *race card* to solve a problem that was actually his problem.
Two dollars is not the issue but his comment is a sad reflection on how the word Racist is being used.
It should be noted the manager did not say that my partner had racial tendencies but used the word as a noun to support an emotional fuelled attack on my partner.
It also should be noted that the supervisor appeared to be of Indian decent.
I dont think that anyone who questions an incorrect sum as change needs to be called a racist, but this is what is being encouraged in this country on a regular basis.
Stop pushing your racist agenda and read the article
His overall experience is positive one,
-- Edited by Plain Truth on Wednesday 22nd of March 2023 05:14:35 PM
Rick, in the story as you have told it, it is very clear who was in the wrong.
Such use of the word racist may well be used commonly, & incorrectly, but I nevertheless think it would be wrong to assume that any time the word is used is is being weaponised as it was there.
Racist behaviours are common & need to be called out.
Be assured that if I ever feel the need to call something you have said racist, I will endeavour to explain why.
It is not a term I use 'just to have a go'. I hope there will be no need, but I also hope that if I do that you might accept that I have no 'ulterior motive' as the manager in your story had, & that you will listen & consider. You may or may not not like my reasoning, but I hope you might trust that I am not trying to be hurtful. My motivation is to try to prevent the hurt that racism causes.
Cuppa stop pushing your racist agenda,look at it in the context of the post.
As for he original poster,if he couldn't download ABC or BBC posts he wouldn't have much to say apart from a few comical Shovel posts.
It's a judgement call whether to just ignore your silly remark about me. I have your measure.
I may have chosen incorrectly , but really I think it is you who should read the full article, & actually read what is there.
Here is the link. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-21/racism-in-aged-care-widespread-issue-in-australian-services/102119404
Feel free to discuss it in more depth.
Please keep your nonsensical & deliberately inflammatory remarks to yourself. If that proves too difficult I will simply ignore you.
What nonsensical and deliberately inflammatory remarks did i say,please quote them.
I read the article ,and what I posted came from the the original post. go back and check
You say you have my measure .What a sick man you are