Waste of time getting booster shots,only last 4 - 6 weeks,more people vaccinated and more are dieing.
Personally I think the increase in deaths is caused by the easing of restrictions and complacency. Landy
Correct Landy. Easing of restrictions and complacency has led to a major increase in infections, which in turn is reflected by an increase in deaths. Deaths are a function of infection, not levels of vaccination.
That wont alter efforts to suggest otherwise, with vaccination and masks remaining the best way to reduce infection and severity levels. Personally I am fine if people decide not to be vaccinated, as in general it only has possible effects on their health, but please dont try to influence others with partial and misleading facts and information.
msg said
10:43 PM May 14, 2022
ummmm Its a vaccine. vaccine, suspension of weakened, killed, or fragmented microorganisms or toxins or other biological preparation, such as those consisting of antibodies, lymphocytes, or messenger RNA (mRNA), that is administered primarily to prevent disease. www.britannica.com/science/vaccine
"Primarily to prevent disease"
Current vaccine does not appear to be doing its job very well. Hope they can improve it soon.
Buzz Lightbulb said
03:02 PM May 15, 2022
I can't remember the name of the epidemiologists so I can't find where I read this, but they said to stop the pandemic we need everyone in the world to be vaccinated and to reduce disease transfer we all need to wear masks.
Sounds simple doesn't it until the politicians get their hands on the information.
According to global databases, Australia led the world in per-capita COVID infections (if you ignore the tiny islands of Montserrat, Anguilla and The Falklands). "
Plain Truth said
06:15 PM May 16, 2022
TheHeaths wrote:
landy wrote:
Plain Truth wrote:
Waste of time getting booster shots,only last 4 - 6 weeks,more people vaccinated and more are dieing.
Personally I think the increase in deaths is caused by the easing of restrictions and complacency. Landy
Correct Landy. Easing of restrictions and complacency has led to a major increase in infections, which in turn is reflected by an increase in deaths. Deaths are a function of infection, not levels of vaccination.
That wont alter efforts to suggest otherwise, with vaccination and masks remaining the best way to reduce infection and severity levels. Personally I am fine if people decide not to be vaccinated, as in general it only has possible effects on their health, but please dont try to influence others with partial and misleading facts and information.
What misleading facts and information have I posted.
Polio and smallpox are viruses both eradicated by a vaccine.Covid is a virus ,and most people are on their fourth vaccine,and still dying in large numbers .
Where is my misleading facts and information. You are certainly ,chaos,mayhem and confusion.
Waste of time getting booster shots,only last 4 - 6 weeks,more people vaccinated and more are dieing.
Personally I think the increase in deaths is caused by the easing of restrictions and complacency. Landy
Correct Landy. Easing of restrictions and complacency has led to a major increase in infections, which in turn is reflected by an increase in deaths. Deaths are a function of infection, not levels of vaccination.
That wont alter efforts to suggest otherwise, with vaccination and masks remaining the best way to reduce infection and severity levels. Personally I am fine if people decide not to be vaccinated, as in general it only has possible effects on their health, but please dont try to influence others with partial and misleading facts and information.
What misleading facts and information have I posted.
Polio and smallpox are viruses both eradicated by a vaccine.Covid is a virus ,and most people are on their fourth vaccine,and still dying in large numbers .
Where is my misleading facts and information. You are certainly ,chaos,mayhem and confusion.
Just read your intro line to the first post. That is where you are misleading, linking vaccinations and increased deaths, while overlooking increased infections as the actual cause of increased deaths. Otherwise show the facts that back up your inference about vaccination and death.
As I say. If you dont want to vaccinate, fine, just dont make comments that have little if any scientific support.
Incidentally, I see you vaccinated against the flu. A sensible precaution, but what is the difference to vaccination against Covid? You can still get the flu, still spread the flu and still die from the flu. I cant follow your health care logic! Have a safe winter
Plain Truth said
08:36 PM May 16, 2022
The flu shot is once a year , seems to work .the covid vaccine is not working,just let us agree to disagree.
landy said
10:15 PM May 16, 2022
I think this sort of information is good enough reason for most of us to get vaccinated. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination Landy
dorian said
02:57 AM May 17, 2022
landy wrote:
I think this sort of information is good enough reason for most of us to get vaccinated. https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination Landy
Let's hope so. Sadly, the world is full of stupid people, and Australia is no exception.
Buzz Lightbulb said
11:10 AM May 17, 2022
Plain Truth wrote:
The flu shot is once a year , seems to work .the covid vaccine is not working,just let us agree to disagree.
The COVID-19 vaccination is to prevent severe disease and that is working. It also helps prevent the transfere of the SARS-CoV2 virus. If everyone kept up with their vaccinations then there is less chance of the virus mutating.
Unfortunately, the politicians won't do what's needed to stop this pandemic and many people are also contributing to its continuation due to either misinformation, ignorance or both.
-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Tuesday 17th of May 2022 11:12:25 AM
dogbox said
11:24 AM May 17, 2022
Plain Truth wrote:
The flu shot is once a year , seems to work .the covid vaccine is not working,just let us agree to disagree.
prior to 2020 how many people died from the flu, in 2021 how many people died from covid compare that to how many died in 2022 with the lifting of face masks/restrictions ?
msg said
12:21 PM May 17, 2022
There is little evidence that the vaccine is working well.
A lot lot more people are getting infected and dying of the disease,
Now of course, this can be attributed to the lowering of restrictions, complacency and the greater number of variants.
Another question": Govt said big pharma were working on additional vaccines to combat the variants and they were close. What happened?
But how is the statement " The COVID-19 vaccination is to prevent severe disease and that is working. It also helps prevent the transfere of the SARS-CoV2 virus." true? Could be, might not be.
How do you calculate a number to support this? How do you rationalize it if no numbers are available?
Accurate and consistent numbers are becoming more difficult to come by they keep changing the goal posts.
-- Edited by msg on Tuesday 17th of May 2022 12:21:58 PM
dorian said
12:42 PM May 17, 2022
msg wrote:
But how is the statement " The COVID-19 vaccination is to prevent severe disease and that is working. It also helps prevent the transfere of the SARS-CoV2 virus." true? Could be, might not be.
How do you calculate a number to support this? How do you rationalize it if no numbers are available?
What more proof do you need? If you're an American who is unvaccinated, you are currently 17 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than if you are fully vaccinated and have had a booster.
msg said
01:26 PM May 17, 2022
No. Could be misinformation. Who are these people? Who is funding them? Do the people supplying the funds to keep these people in a job have a particular barrow to push. e.g Does big pharma fund them to publish vaccination friendly information? No? How do you know?
Correct Landy. Easing of restrictions and complacency has led to a major increase in infections, which in turn is reflected by an increase in deaths. Deaths are a function of infection, not levels of vaccination.
That wont alter efforts to suggest otherwise, with vaccination and masks remaining the best way to reduce infection and severity levels. Personally I am fine if people decide not to be vaccinated, as in general it only has possible effects on their health, but please dont try to influence others with partial and misleading facts and information.
"Primarily to prevent disease"
Current vaccine does not appear to be doing its job very well. Hope they can improve it soon.
I can't remember the name of the epidemiologists so I can't find where I read this, but they said to stop the pandemic we need everyone in the world to be vaccinated and to reduce disease transfer we all need to wear masks.
Sounds simple doesn't it until the politicians get their hands on the information.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-15/covid-infections-in-australia-among-worlds-highest/101062364
"This week Australia became a world leader.
According to global databases, Australia led the world in per-capita COVID infections (if you ignore the tiny islands of Montserrat, Anguilla and The Falklands). "
What misleading facts and information have I posted.
Polio and smallpox are viruses both eradicated by a vaccine.Covid is a virus ,and most people are on their fourth vaccine,and still dying in large numbers .
Where is my misleading facts and information. You are certainly ,chaos,mayhem and confusion.
Just read your intro line to the first post. That is where you are misleading, linking vaccinations and increased deaths, while overlooking increased infections as the actual cause of increased deaths. Otherwise show the facts that back up your inference about vaccination and death.
As I say. If you dont want to vaccinate, fine, just dont make comments that have little if any scientific support.
Incidentally, I see you vaccinated against the flu. A sensible precaution, but what is the difference to vaccination against Covid? You can still get the flu, still spread the flu and still die from the flu. I cant follow your health care logic! Have a safe winter
The flu shot is once a year , seems to work .the covid vaccine is not working,just let us agree to disagree.
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
Landy
Let's hope so. Sadly, the world is full of stupid people, and Australia is no exception.
The COVID-19 vaccination is to prevent severe disease and that is working. It also helps prevent the transfere of the SARS-CoV2 virus. If everyone kept up with their vaccinations then there is less chance of the virus mutating.
Unfortunately, the politicians won't do what's needed to stop this pandemic and many people are also contributing to its continuation due to either misinformation, ignorance or both.
-- Edited by Buzz Lightbulb on Tuesday 17th of May 2022 11:12:25 AM
prior to 2020 how many people died from the flu, in 2021 how many people died from covid compare that to how many died in 2022 with the lifting of face masks/restrictions ?
There is little evidence that the vaccine is working well.
A lot lot more people are getting infected and dying of the disease,
Now of course, this can be attributed to the lowering of restrictions, complacency and the greater number of variants.
Another question": Govt said big pharma were working on additional vaccines to combat the variants and they were close. What happened?
But how is the statement
" The COVID-19 vaccination is to prevent severe disease and that is working. It also helps prevent the transfere of the SARS-CoV2 virus." true? Could be, might not be.
How do you calculate a number to support this? How do you rationalize it if no numbers are available?
Accurate and consistent numbers are becoming more difficult to come by they keep changing the goal posts.
-- Edited by msg on Tuesday 17th of May 2022 12:21:58 PM
Did you even bother to follow this link?
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
What more proof do you need? If you're an American who is unvaccinated, you are currently 17 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than if you are fully vaccinated and have had a booster.