What we dont realise . Most people bin cities have no idea how some animals suffer during droughts or when theres over population. Its sad horses etc need culling and some will film it , run it on ACA etc as a big shock !! But do they show dead or dyeing animals ? Then things get out of hand and political !!! We dont see animals being slaughtered these days but when we do its devistating
Mike Harding said
11:00 AM Mar 15, 2021
Derek Barnes wrote:
>Just thank goodness your most dangerous animal is only a dog
And: crocodiles, 18 of the most venomous snakes on the planet, cassowaries, lace monitors, male kangaroos, spiders etc...
>How about we learn to live with the few 'native' animals which we have remaining in Australia.
Unless you're challenging Wikipedia the dingo is not native.
Bobdown said
11:29 AM Mar 15, 2021
peter67 wrote:
Bobdown wrote:
Dingoes are great pets once trained, I had a part dingo for 12 years, went everywhere with me. A lot better behaved than some yappy little bugger. There was a show on the ABC some years ago where the vegetation and wildlife on the dingo side of the Fence were thriving, while the other side was decimated by feral cats and dogs.
Cheers Bob
Hi Bob, if I read your post correctly :) are you stating that feral dogs and cats have turned vegan?
Hi Peter,
I tried to find the show I was talking about, but I can't find it. The main story was that Dingoes have a strict family order and the Patriarch rules over the young ones.
They only take what is needed to feed the family and there were desert mice, small marsupials, birds and lizards in abundance and plants were thriving, whereas the other side was stripped bare of all life by the ferals who take anything and everything on their side of the fence. Below is a link to a story I found but not the one I was looking for, about how you can see the difference in sides from space.
Getting too familiar with humans can have issues with wild Dingos . Azeria .
oldbloke said
02:05 PM Mar 15, 2021
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
Getting too familiar with humans can have issues with wild Dingos . Azeria .
Yes, I have heard of bush walkers being surrounded by small packs.
Spoke to a fellow the other day. A farmer he knows lost about 50 sheep in about 10 days. Believed to be just 1 dingo/dog. They don't just eat natives. And would appear they can kill, maim for fun, same as foxes and cats.
Are they native? I don't think 5000 years makes them native IMO. But if the Martians, Vulcan's, Klingon, or Borg landed tomorrow they would think they are native. Lol
-- Edited by oldbloke on Monday 15th of March 2021 02:08:11 PM
peter67 said
06:12 PM Mar 15, 2021
Bobdown wrote:
peter67 wrote:
Bobdown wrote:
Dingoes are great pets once trained, I had a part dingo for 12 years, went everywhere with me. A lot better behaved than some yappy little bugger. There was a show on the ABC some years ago where the vegetation and wildlife on the dingo side of the Fence were thriving, while the other side was decimated by feral cats and dogs.
Cheers Bob
Hi Bob, if I read your post correctly :) are you stating that feral dogs and cats have turned vegan?
Hi Peter,
I tried to find the show I was talking about, but I can't find it. The main story was that Dingoes have a strict family order and the Patriarch rules over the young ones.
They only take what is needed to feed the family and there were desert mice, small marsupials, birds and lizards in abundance and plants were thriving, whereas the other side was stripped bare of all life by the ferals who take anything and everything on their side of the fence. Below is a link to a story I found but not the one I was looking for, about how you can see the difference in sides from space.
Hi Bob, no offense I was pulling your leg. Years ago a mate had a dingo and he was well behaved (the dingo not my mate) certainly never spent his time chasing cars and yapping at every little noise like his owner did :)
Bicyclecamper said
01:31 AM Mar 17, 2021
No one will be happy in australia, till they have developed the s..t out of the country, killed directly and indirectly every wildlife animal on the continent, and they will never own up to it. Just plain greed is killing them all. Just rape the country, pillage the land and kill everything. The majority of the population of Australia, do not give a damn. My place out of town. You cannot, will not overshoot, or shoot anything. Only I am allowed to shoot on the property and all I shoot are feral city dogs,( that have been running the area for a while). If a fresh dog is dumped, I will rescue and find a home for it. I religiously go looking for them. If they come to me, are not aggressive, then they are fresh drops, and don't deserve a bullet. Dingo's don't get shot not that I have seen many at all . I have a fair few acres, and my place, is from the animals perspective a safe place to be, and they basically stay on it indefinitely. I have wild deer on the property as well. They just stay here, I love them a beautiful majestic animal. Not much wildlife on any other property around me, they all, and I mean all the wildlife get shot. If they make it to my place they get to live. and I wouldn't have it any other way.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:40:24 AM
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:41:25 AM
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:42:40 AM
msg said
09:10 AM Mar 17, 2021
Good on u Bicyclecamper. I agree Greed is running rampart and only likely to get worse. Very few people are left who have a connection to country. And they will never know what this country was really like before they hopped on their boats and planes and came here and see it only as an opportunity to get rich. We that are left need to stand with the original owners.
Aus-Kiwi said
10:12 AM Mar 17, 2021
In some cases these animals over breed !! Both sides to story and at times the media like the shock story for ratings ! This is greed ! Ill remember next time I jump into a river Im
Safe ! No Dingos here !! Aha is that a log floating over there ?
oldbloke said
10:34 AM Mar 17, 2021
Bicyclecamper wrote:
No one will be happy in australia, till they have developed the s..t out of the country, killed directly and indirectly every wildlife animal on the continent, and they will never own up to it. Just plain greed is killing them all. Just rape the country, pillage the land and kill everything. The majority of the population of Australia, do not give a damn. My place out of town. You cannot, will not overshoot, or shoot anything. Only I am allowed to shoot on the property and all I shoot are feral city dogs,( that have been running the area for a while). If a fresh dog is dumped, I will rescue and find a home for it. I religiously go looking for them. If they come to me, are not aggressive, then they are fresh drops, and don't deserve a bullet. Dingo's don't get shot not that I have seen many at all . I have a fair few acres, and my place, is from the animals perspective a safe place to be, and they basically stay on it indefinitely. I have wild deer on the property as well. They just stay here, I love them a beautiful majestic animal. Not much wildlife on any other property around me, they all, and I mean all the wildlife get shot. If they make it to my place they get to live. and I wouldn't have it any other way.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:40:24 AM
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:41:25 AM
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:42:40 AM
Your perfectly entitled to not shoot them on your property. (I'm unsure of their actual legal status in NSW)
But they are more or less nocturnal, so for everyone you see during the day, more than likely 7 or 8 are out there that you didn't see. And some farmers are begging for reliable hunters and trappers to remove them due to stock losses. I doubt they will see it your way.
oldbloke said
10:38 AM Mar 17, 2021
oldbloke wrote:
I know a bloke who has trapped and shot dogs/dingo's for many years. (Sth QLD) He took 100s DNA samples for testing. Not 1 result was 100% dingo. All had some dog in them.
msg said
10:38 AM Mar 17, 2021
Are they over breeding or are the population numbers being controlled to fit into the small spaces that are now allocated to them? Can't have animal habitats where big mines could be can we?
Aus-Kiwi said
12:09 PM Mar 17, 2021
I doubt the mines care too much about Dingoes ! Yes theres not a lot of Australia left . Have you been out there ? Sheesh !
msg said
02:05 PM Mar 17, 2021
Probably not but they use up dingo habitat. Chase off the wildlife. So I suppose the dingos have to look elsewhere for food. My main experience is out Quilpie way. Small claim behind the dingo fence. Can't say there has ever been overcrowding with dingos. Never heard or saw any evidence of them. Lately there has been an increase in rats & mice who bring the snakes but funnily enough the roos have disappeared.
Bobdown said
04:59 PM Mar 17, 2021
The bloke at Iron Knob Visitors Centre saw my dog thru the window and spoke to me about him, he was an old dingo hunter and a bit of an expert from years ago and now thinks they are great animals. He said he should be hunting the feral dogs and cats now. My dog was about 60% Kelpie and 40% dingo according to the Vet, very well trained and was my best mate, Best rabbit and rat catcher in the street, still miss him even though he went a year ago.
Hi Peter,
I tried to find the show I was talking about, but I can't find it. The main story was that Dingoes have a strict family order and the Patriarch rules over the young ones.
They only take what is needed to feed the family and there were desert mice, small marsupials, birds and lizards in abundance and plants were thriving, whereas the other side was stripped bare of all life by the ferals who take anything and everything on their side of the fence. Below is a link to a story I found but not the one I was looking for, about how you can see the difference in sides from space.
Cheers Bob
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-26/dingo-fence-seen-from-space/13192832
Yes, I have heard of bush walkers being surrounded by small packs.
Spoke to a fellow the other day. A farmer he knows lost about 50 sheep in about 10 days. Believed to be just 1 dingo/dog. They don't just eat natives. And would appear they can kill, maim for fun, same as foxes and cats.
Are they native? I don't think 5000 years makes them native IMO. But if the Martians, Vulcan's, Klingon, or Borg landed tomorrow they would think they are native. Lol
-- Edited by oldbloke on Monday 15th of March 2021 02:08:11 PM
No one will be happy in australia, till they have developed the s..t out of the country, killed directly and indirectly every wildlife animal on the continent, and they will never own up to it. Just plain greed is killing them all. Just rape the country, pillage the land and kill everything. The majority of the population of Australia, do not give a damn. My place out of town. You cannot, will not overshoot, or shoot anything. Only I am allowed to shoot on the property and all I shoot are feral city dogs,( that have been running the area for a while). If a fresh dog is dumped, I will rescue and find a home for it. I religiously go looking for them. If they come to me, are not aggressive, then they are fresh drops, and don't deserve a bullet. Dingo's don't get shot not that I have seen many at all . I have a fair few acres, and my place, is from the animals perspective a safe place to be, and they basically stay on it indefinitely. I have wild deer on the property as well. They just stay here, I love them a beautiful majestic animal. Not much wildlife on any other property around me, they all, and I mean all the wildlife get shot. If they make it to my place they get to live. and I wouldn't have it any other way.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:40:24 AM
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:41:25 AM
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 17th of March 2021 01:42:40 AM
Safe ! No Dingos here !! Aha is that a log floating over there ?
Your perfectly entitled to not shoot them on your property. (I'm unsure of their actual legal status in NSW)
But they are more or less nocturnal, so for everyone you see during the day, more than likely 7 or 8 are out there that you didn't see. And some farmers are begging for reliable hunters and trappers to remove them due to stock losses. I doubt they will see it your way.
I know a bloke who has trapped and shot dogs/dingo's for many years. (Sth QLD) He took 100s DNA samples for testing. Not 1 result was 100% dingo. All had some dog in them.
The bloke at Iron Knob Visitors Centre saw my dog thru the window and spoke to me about him, he was an old dingo hunter and a bit of an expert from years ago and now thinks they are great animals. He said he should be hunting the feral dogs and cats now. My dog was about 60% Kelpie and 40% dingo according to the Vet, very well trained and was my best mate, Best rabbit and rat catcher in the street, still miss him even though he went a year ago.
Cheers Bob
He's good-looking dog Bob.