You might be right, it may be a Vanguard.
Those things were like a tank.
yobarr said
01:05 PM Dec 14, 2020
KJB wrote:
The truck is more than likely an International K series (there was a similar Diamond T) , car towing the van is English maybe Wolsley/ Singer /Standard then an Austin A40 (looks like a convertible version) and last car a bit hard to make out - could even be a Vanguard.
Hi Kerry....yeah,I thought 'Vanguard' initially,but then decided that subject vehicle was too big to be a Vanguard.You are right about the truck.....I've never before heard of an International K series.Seems they were powered by a 200hp Continental petrol engine,big gear in its day.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 14th of December 2020 01:49:20 PM
Very similar to both the one in the B&W pic and the Pilot that I posted previously.
Here's a Vanguard .. couldn't get a good front on shot. I had a couple of these old bangers in the day
One of the International K series - different headlights & chrome above grill .. but there were several models like the one in the middle or even the blue one just poking thru on the right. That distinctive curved grill is common in all although the bumpers vary a bit.
KJB said
01:30 PM Dec 14, 2020
2nd and 3rd Inter. pics are correct 1st pic. is a different model (same era) I think was called an " KB" model . (notice headlight mounting )
-- Edited by KJB on Monday 14th of December 2020 01:36:21 PM
yobarr said
01:31 PM Dec 14, 2020
Cupie wrote:
Here's a Woolsley.
Very similar to both the one in the B&W pic and the Pilot that I posted previously.
Here's a Vanguard .. couldn't get a good front on shot. I had a couple of these old bangers in the day
One of the International K series - different headlights & chrome above grill .. but there were several models like the one in the middle or even the blue one just poking thru on the right. That distinctive curved grill is common in all although the bumpers vary a bit.
Yeah,that model Vanguard had a sloping rear,and has powered by a Ferguson tractor motor,so they were sometimes known as a 'Fergy Fastback'.' . Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 14th of December 2020 01:44:06 PM
Craig1 said
01:44 PM Dec 14, 2020
Mate had a vanguard as his 1st car, couldnt leave town, the fuel consumption was awful
DMaxer said
01:49 PM Dec 14, 2020
Where did you get the black and white photo from Yobarr? Do you know where it was taken?
Sorry to go off topic but I love those old photos of transport in the day.
yobarr said
01:54 PM Dec 14, 2020
DMaxer wrote:
Where did you get the black and white photo from Yobarr? Do you know where it was taken?
Sorry to go off topic but I love those old photos of transport in the day.
Hi DMaxer (Do you have a name?) Seem to recall that photo was taken a few miles North of Warwick,but when I get home I will look on my "real" computer,as there isnot much here on the iPad.Cheers
Cupie said
03:11 PM Dec 14, 2020
Craig1 wrote:
Mate had a vanguard as his 1st car, couldnt leave town, the fuel consumption was awful
Back on topic .... I was something of a Skilled worker when it came to repairing the Fastback Fergies. A common job was to pack the big end bearings. When the big end noise got too bad, being unable to afford new slippers, I would start to tighten them up with brown paper under the slippers, gradually progressing over time to jam tin shims and even cutting out new oil groves. We used some sort of plastic straws between the journals & slippers which squashed when tightened up. The width of the squashed straw gave us the big end play.
Used to be able to fix excess slop in the idler and pitman arm joints as well. The 'wet sleeve' cylinders were easily replaced with others that were slightly better. Patches in threadbare tyres was common.
An arrangement of springs, sort of fixed the gear shift that often stuck in moving from 1st to 2nd. Usually in the middle of an intersection.
But she looked good at night, a real chick magnet with my Fox tail lying from the top of a rear bumper mounted whip aerial & the internal light painted with my sister's red nail polish gave off a romantic pink light. OH yes, the dash was tricked out with a centre panel made from electroplated metal, made at the local Railway work shops. Dash lights were painted red too.
What a beast.
It was never the same after I rolled it over rushing home from a keg party out at the local swimming spot. Just got a few mates to help roll it back onto its wheels & off it went to become a spare parts source for its replacement that I brought from a mechanic. Probably the worst car I have ever had. Bloody mechanics.
Eventually replaced it with with a fantastic Valiant just like this one, same colour and in showroom condition ..
-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 14th of December 2020 03:20:54 PM
Radar said
04:06 PM Dec 14, 2020
yobarr wrote:
DMaxer wrote:
I think the car that Doug is driving and towing the caravan may not be a Pilot. We had a Pilot when I was a little kid and I am sure the windscreen had more of a downward curve in it. There were not many models of them and they were replaced by the Consul and the Zephyr. I think the Pilot were a British car made by Ford. I am not sure but if I was having a guess I reckon it might be a Wolseley.
I agree with the Bedford and the Austin and perhaps the last car is either a Chev, Pontiac or Buick.
-- Edited by DMaxer on Monday 14th of December 2020 11:24:48 AM
Yeah,I'm with you and Cupie in 3 out of 4.The truck looks like 'K' model Bedford,the second car is an A40 Devon,and the last car could be a 1950 Chev. (or Pontiac or Buick,as you suggest).The first car I initially thought was a Humber Snipe,but your suggestion of a Wolseley is a lot closer to the mark.Perhaps others can help? Cheers
I believe that photo of the semi and cars following has come from stories of the Hume Highway down below Tarcutta NSW.
Mate had a vanguard as his 1st car, couldnt leave town, the fuel consumption was awful
Back on topic .... I was something of a Skilled worker when it came to repairing the Fastback Fergies. A common job was to pack the big end bearings. When the big end noise got too bad, being unable to afford new slippers, I would start to tighten them up with brown paper under the slippers, gradually progressing over time to jam tin shims and even cutting out new oil groves. We used some sort of plastic straws between the journals & slippers which squashed when tightened up. The width of the squashed straw gave us the big end play.
Used to be able to fix excess slop in the idler and pitman arm joints as well. The 'wet sleeve' cylinders were easily replaced with others that were slightly better. Patches in threadbare tyres was common.
An arrangement of springs, sort of fixed the gear shift that often stuck in moving from 1st to 2nd. Usually in the middle of an intersection.
But she looked good at night, a real chick magnet with my Fox tail lying from the top of a rear bumper mounted whip aerial & the internal light painted with my sister's red nail polish gave off a romantic pink light. OH yes, the dash was tricked out with a centre panel made from electroplated metal, made at the local Railway work shops. Dash lights were painted red too.
What a beast.
It was never the same after I rolled it over rushing home from a keg party out at the local swimming spot. Just got a few mates to help roll it back onto its wheels & off it went to become a spare parts source for its replacement that I brought from a mechanic. Probably the worst car I have ever had. Bloody mechanics.
Eventually replaced it with with a fantastic Valiant just like this one, same colour and in showroom condition ..
-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 14th of December 2020 03:20:54 PM
Ah,the old VF....the last model with the brilliant slant motor.Cheers
Cupie said
05:47 PM Dec 14, 2020
yobarr wrote:
Cupie wrote:
Craig1 wrote:
Mate had a vanguard as his 1st car, couldnt leave town, the fuel consumption was awful
Back on topic .... I was something of a Skilled worker when it came to repairing the Fastback Fergies. A common job was to pack the big end bearings. When the big end noise got too bad, being unable to afford new slippers, I would start to tighten them up with brown paper under the slippers, gradually progressing over time to jam tin shims and even cutting out new oil groves. We used some sort of plastic straws between the journals & slippers which squashed when tightened up. The width of the squashed straw gave us the big end play.
Used to be able to fix excess slop in the idler and pitman arm joints as well. The 'wet sleeve' cylinders were easily replaced with others that were slightly better. Patches in threadbare tyres was common.
An arrangement of springs, sort of fixed the gear shift that often stuck in moving from 1st to 2nd. Usually in the middle of an intersection.
But she looked good at night, a real chick magnet with my Fox tail lying from the top of a rear bumper mounted whip aerial & the internal light painted with my sister's red nail polish gave off a romantic pink light. OH yes, the dash was tricked out with a centre panel made from electroplated metal, made at the local Railway work shops. Dash lights were painted red too.
What a beast.
It was never the same after I rolled it over rushing home from a keg party out at the local swimming spot. Just got a few mates to help roll it back onto its wheels & off it went to become a spare parts source for its replacement that I brought from a mechanic. Probably the worst car I have ever had. Bloody mechanics.
Eventually replaced it with with a fantastic Valiant just like this one, same colour and in showroom condition ..
-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 14th of December 2020 03:20:54 PM
Ah,the old VF....the last model with the brilliant slant motor.Cheers
Yep, that's the one. The original owner had even polished under the bonnet. I loved very minute of driving it even if it was a bit light in the ass. One wet evening when pulling out to overtake I spun it 360 degrees ending up on the side of the road facing the right way. SWMBO eventually totalled it by running into the rear of a truck loaded with besser blocks. No injuries fortunately. But by beloved VF was no more. Boo Hoo!!
yobarr said
06:29 PM Dec 14, 2020
Cupie wrote:
yobarr wrote:
Cupie wrote:
Craig1 wrote:
Mate had a vanguard as his 1st car, couldnt leave town, the fuel consumption was awful
Back on topic .... I was something of a Skilled worker when it came to repairing the Fastback Fergies. A common job was to pack the big end bearings. When the big end noise got too bad, being unable to afford new slippers, I would start to tighten them up with brown paper under the slippers, gradually progressing over time to jam tin shims and even cutting out new oil groves. We used some sort of plastic straws between the journals & slippers which squashed when tightened up. The width of the squashed straw gave us the big end play.
Used to be able to fix excess slop in the idler and pitman arm joints as well. The 'wet sleeve' cylinders were easily replaced with others that were slightly better. Patches in threadbare tyres was common.
An arrangement of springs, sort of fixed the gear shift that often stuck in moving from 1st to 2nd. Usually in the middle of an intersection.
But she looked good at night, a real chick magnet with my Fox tail lying from the top of a rear bumper mounted whip aerial & the internal light painted with my sister's red nail polish gave off a romantic pink light. OH yes, the dash was tricked out with a centre panel made from electroplated metal, made at the local Railway work shops. Dash lights were painted red too.
What a beast.
It was never the same after I rolled it over rushing home from a keg party out at the local swimming spot. Just got a few mates to help roll it back onto its wheels & off it went to become a spare parts source for its replacement that I brought from a mechanic. Probably the worst car I have ever had. Bloody mechanics.
Eventually replaced it with with a fantastic Valiant just like this one, same colour and in showroom condition ..
-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 14th of December 2020 03:20:54 PM
Ah,the old VF....the last model with the brilliant slant motor.Cheers
Yep, that's the one. The original owner had even polished under the bonnet. I loved very minute of driving it even if it was a bit light in the ass. One wet evening when pulling out to overtake I spun it 360 degrees ending up on the side of the road facing the right way. SWMBO eventually totalled it by running into the rear of a truck loaded with besser blocks. No injuries fortunately. But by beloved VF was no more. Boo Hoo!!
Yeah,160hp was big gear in its day,but they were a heavy car,and lightly sprung,so never were noted for their handling,or getting the power to the ground.Magic though,when you're a teenager,and smoking-up the tyres at every opportunity was great fun.Next model,the VG,with the 245 motor, was even more fun,as it had 25hp more.We were a lot smaller in those days,and the front seat could fit 4 across,so perfect for two guys and a couple of likely young ladies.Yep,those were the days.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 14th of December 2020 06:35:39 PM
This is just South of Gundagai on the Hume Hwy in 1956 .... this truck ran into the rear of our friends caravan (completely demolished it ) but there were no injuries. (that is me in top right corner of pic.. I was 9 years old and still remember the incident well.) We were travelling North in a group of 3 caravans .
They look like a pretty flash set of braces you are wearing to hold up your strides there KJB. On the footwear front, would those be gumboots you were wearing by any chance?
Possum,I reckon you're right there! Massive 25hp (19kw),but likely had a lot of torque at low revs? Cheers
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-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 15th of December 2020 12:48:33 PM
My eyes aren't good enough to see those typical grooves along the top sides of the bonnet that Vauxhalls had .. can you?
Hi Cupie...the photo above is definitely a 1937 Vauxhall,and I thought that the grille and the bars on the side of the bonnet matched. However,the windscreen on the car above seems to have more-rounded corners than the black and white pictured one,and the wipers are hinged from above the windscreen.Anyway,I'll leave it for someone else to solve..I'm lost! Cheers
KJB said
06:50 PM Dec 15, 2020
No bonnet "scollops " (long time Vauxhall styling staple of that era ) in the B and W pic.
Cupie said
07:41 PM Dec 15, 2020
I give up too. It's been fun though & brought back many great memories of cars past. LOL
Radar said
09:31 PM Dec 15, 2020
Definitely a Wolseley, just finish watching Foyle's War.
yobarr said
09:39 PM Dec 15, 2020
Radar wrote:
Definitely a Wolseley, just finish watching Foyle's War.
Think you've got it Ralph! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 15th of December 2020 09:46:15 PM
KJB wrote:
The truck is more than likely an International K series (there was a similar Diamond T) , car towing the van is English maybe Wolsley/ Singer /Standard then an Austin A40 (looks like a convertible version) and last car a bit hard to make out - could even be a Vanguard.
Hi Kerry....yeah,I thought 'Vanguard' initially,but then decided that subject vehicle was too big to be a Vanguard.You are right about the truck.....I've never before heard of an International K series.Seems they were powered by a 200hp Continental petrol engine,big gear in its day.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 14th of December 2020 01:49:20 PM
Here's a Woolsley.
Very similar to both the one in the B&W pic and the Pilot that I posted previously.
Here's a Vanguard .. couldn't get a good front on shot. I had a couple of these old bangers in the day
One of the International K series - different headlights & chrome above grill .. but there were several models like the one in the middle or even the blue one just poking thru on the right. That distinctive curved grill is common in all although the bumpers vary a bit.
2nd and 3rd Inter. pics are correct 1st pic. is a different model (same era) I think was called an " KB" model . (notice headlight mounting )
-- Edited by KJB on Monday 14th of December 2020 01:36:21 PM
Yeah,that model Vanguard had a sloping rear,and has powered by a Ferguson tractor motor,so they were sometimes known as a 'Fergy Fastback'.' . Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 14th of December 2020 01:44:06 PM
Where did you get the black and white photo from Yobarr? Do you know where it was taken?
Sorry to go off topic but I love those old photos of transport in the day.
Hi DMaxer (Do you have a name?) Seem to recall that photo was taken a few miles North of Warwick,but when I get home I will look on my "real" computer,as there isnot much here on the iPad.Cheers
Back on topic .... I was something of a Skilled worker when it came to repairing the Fastback Fergies. A common job was to pack the big end bearings. When the big end noise got too bad, being unable to afford new slippers, I would start to tighten them up with brown paper under the slippers, gradually progressing over time to jam tin shims and even cutting out new oil groves. We used some sort of plastic straws between the journals & slippers which squashed when tightened up. The width of the squashed straw gave us the big end play.
Used to be able to fix excess slop in the idler and pitman arm joints as well. The 'wet sleeve' cylinders were easily replaced with others that were slightly better. Patches in threadbare tyres was common.
An arrangement of springs, sort of fixed the gear shift that often stuck in moving from 1st to 2nd. Usually in the middle of an intersection.
But she looked good at night, a real chick magnet with my Fox tail lying from the top of a rear bumper mounted whip aerial & the internal light painted with my sister's red nail polish gave off a romantic pink light. OH yes, the dash was tricked out with a centre panel made from electroplated metal, made at the local Railway work shops. Dash lights were painted red too.
What a beast.
It was never the same after I rolled it over rushing home from a keg party out at the local swimming spot. Just got a few mates to help roll it back onto its wheels & off it went to become a spare parts source for its replacement that I brought from a mechanic. Probably the worst car I have ever had. Bloody mechanics.
Eventually replaced it with with a fantastic Valiant just like this one, same colour and in showroom condition ..
-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 14th of December 2020 03:20:54 PM
I believe that photo of the semi and cars following has come from stories of the Hume Highway down below Tarcutta NSW.
Ah,the old VF....the last model with the brilliant slant motor.Cheers
Yep, that's the one. The original owner had even polished under the bonnet. I loved very minute of driving it even if it was a bit light in the ass. One wet evening when pulling out to overtake I spun it 360 degrees ending up on the side of the road facing the right way. SWMBO eventually totalled it by running into the rear of a truck loaded with besser blocks. No injuries fortunately. But by beloved VF was no more. Boo Hoo!!
yobarr wrote:
Cupie wrote:
Craig1 wrote:
Mate had a vanguard as his 1st car, couldnt leave town, the fuel consumption was awful
Back on topic .... I was something of a Skilled worker when it came to repairing the Fastback Fergies. A common job was to pack the big end bearings. When the big end noise got too bad, being unable to afford new slippers, I would start to tighten them up with brown paper under the slippers, gradually progressing over time to jam tin shims and even cutting out new oil groves. We used some sort of plastic straws between the journals & slippers which squashed when tightened up. The width of the squashed straw gave us the big end play.
Used to be able to fix excess slop in the idler and pitman arm joints as well. The 'wet sleeve' cylinders were easily replaced with others that were slightly better. Patches in threadbare tyres was common.
An arrangement of springs, sort of fixed the gear shift that often stuck in moving from 1st to 2nd. Usually in the middle of an intersection.
But she looked good at night, a real chick magnet with my Fox tail lying from the top of a rear bumper mounted whip aerial & the internal light painted with my sister's red nail polish gave off a romantic pink light. OH yes, the dash was tricked out with a centre panel made from electroplated metal, made at the local Railway work shops. Dash lights were painted red too.
What a beast.
It was never the same after I rolled it over rushing home from a keg party out at the local swimming spot. Just got a few mates to help roll it back onto its wheels & off it went to become a spare parts source for its replacement that I brought from a mechanic. Probably the worst car I have ever had. Bloody mechanics.
Eventually replaced it with with a fantastic Valiant just like this one, same colour and in showroom condition ..
-- Edited by Cupie on Monday 14th of December 2020 03:20:54 PM
Ah,the old VF....the last model with the brilliant slant motor.Cheers
Yep, that's the one. The original owner had even polished under the bonnet. I loved very minute of driving it even if it was a bit light in the ass. One wet evening when pulling out to overtake I spun it 360 degrees ending up on the side of the road facing the right way. SWMBO eventually totalled it by running into the rear of a truck loaded with besser blocks. No injuries fortunately. But by beloved VF was no more. Boo Hoo!!
Yeah,160hp was big gear in its day,but they were a heavy car,and lightly sprung,so never were noted for their handling,or getting the power to the ground.Magic though,when you're a teenager,and smoking-up the tyres at every opportunity was great fun.Next model,the VG,with the 245 motor, was even more fun,as it had 25hp more.We were a lot smaller in those days,and the front seat could fit 4 across,so perfect for two guys and a couple of likely young ladies.Yep,those were the days.Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 14th of December 2020 06:35:39 PM
DMaxer wrote:
Where did you get the black and white photo from Yobarr? Do you know where it was taken?
Sorry to go off topic but I love those old photos of transport in the day.
A few old,poor quality,photos to whet your appetite! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Monday 14th of December 2020 07:43:04 PM
if i was to guess i would say hume hyway yass
Problem solved....found original.Gundagai,1951.Cheers
This is just South of Gundagai on the Hume Hwy in 1956 .... this truck ran into the rear of our friends caravan (completely demolished it ) but there were no injuries. (that is me in top right corner of pic.. I was 9 years old and still remember the incident well.) We were travelling North in a group of 3 caravans .
Yes and Yes
Possum,I reckon you're right there! Massive 25hp (19kw),but likely had a lot of torque at low revs? Cheers
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-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 15th of December 2020 12:48:33 PM
I'm impressed you had colour film in 1956!
My eyes aren't good enough to see those typical grooves along the top sides of the bonnet that Vauxhalls had .. can you?
Hi Cupie...the photo above is definitely a 1937 Vauxhall,and I thought that the grille and the bars on the side of the bonnet matched. However,the windscreen on the car above seems to have more-rounded corners than the black and white pictured one,and the wipers are hinged from above the windscreen.Anyway,I'll leave it for someone else to solve..I'm lost! Cheers
No bonnet "scollops " (long time Vauxhall styling staple of that era ) in the B and W pic.
I give up too. It's been fun though & brought back many great memories of cars past. LOL
Definitely a Wolseley, just finish watching Foyle's War.
Think you've got it Ralph! Cheers
-- Edited by yobarr on Tuesday 15th of December 2020 09:46:15 PM
Good "spotting"........
I should have known better a '53 680 was my first real automobile - my first "Car" a '32 Chevrolet was a dog in comparison.