As much, if not more, abuse against children and women is perpetrated by family members in the home!
Doesnt excuse those in the church who abused positions of trust, nor those who protected them, but there are many more in the church who live good lives and do much good.
So very true Ian.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Friday 27th of December 2019 08:56:59 PM
Eaglemax said
01:28 AM Dec 28, 2019
Amazing how many negative wingers are avoided by people that whinge about them... rather than avoid them its better imo to try to get the best out of them, getting to know them is a good start.
As for the religious side of the HC buns Christianity has been on the decline for a long time. Times change and most people of typical grey nomad ages cant adapt/change at the same pace. Your old days are gone, move on, that aint coming back
Tony
TheHeaths said
07:43 AM Dec 28, 2019
Sorry Tony, but declining involvement, and times changing are not really valid reasons for disrespect for others beliefs. I assume you celebrated Christmas in some manner?
In my opinion, that is a big part of the problems in society, disregarding and down playing the things other hold as important.
Some other instances of such behaviour that I could quote include those who question Anzac Day, and those who question Australia Day. Certainly the changing of the times is no valid reason in my opinion to question the remembrance of those.
A little more tolerance and support of others beliefs would benefit society immensely.
My interest in this aspect of this topic was not theological, as I am agnostic at best, but purely as a comment on what I see as an erosion of decent social mores in the name of nothing more than profit. I often wonder what reaction would be if other non Christian beliefs were used more openly for profit. Would that be accepted so freely.
So I now retreat to the quiet of my lounge chair, and will leave others to their cup of tea, fruit bun, and the discussion.
2trout said
09:00 AM Dec 28, 2019
Wow, all this about a humble hot cross bun! Glad we didn't get into anything important-like football; that would really get the sparks flying!!
Cupie said
09:09 AM Dec 28, 2019
2trout wrote:
Wow, all this about a humble hot cross bun! Glad we didn't get into anything important-like football; that would really get the sparks flying!!
My thoughts too. Have just unsubscribed to this thread.
Brodie Allen said
08:32 PM Dec 28, 2019
Only good I can see other than the gourmet issue is the link to Easter.
Like an earlier poster, I have easter 12 months of the year.
If you have lost the connotation, look into the ancient origins of Easter -
certainly ain't Christian, but plenty good anyway!!!
So much heathenism adopted by Christianity it's a wonder that the
churches still promote it under a different "tradition".
Brodie
yobarr said
08:36 PM Dec 28, 2019
Cupie wrote:
2trout wrote:
Wow, all this about a humble hot cross bun! Glad we didn't get into anything important-like football; that would really get the sparks flying!!
My thoughts too. Have just unsubscribed to this thread.
Me too...
-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 28th of December 2019 09:06:53 PM
Santa said
08:37 PM Dec 28, 2019
Time to leave this thread.
-- Edited by Santa on Saturday 28th of December 2019 08:37:59 PM
Eaglemax said
03:26 AM Dec 29, 2019
TheHeaths wrote:
Sorry Tony, but declining involvement, and times changing are not really valid reasons for disrespect for others beliefs. I assume you celebrated Christmas in some manner?
In my opinion, that is a big part of the problems in society, disregarding and down playing the things other hold as important.
Some other instances of such behaviour that I could quote include those who question Anzac Day, and those who question Australia Day. Certainly the changing of the times is no valid reason in my opinion to question the remembrance of those.
A little more tolerance and support of others beliefs would benefit society immensely.
My interest in this aspect of this topic was not theological, as I am agnostic at best, but purely as a comment on what I see as an erosion of decent social mores in the name of nothing more than profit. I often wonder what reaction would be if other non Christian beliefs were used more openly for profit. Would that be accepted so freely.
So I now retreat to the quiet of my lounge chair, and will leave others to their cup of tea, fruit bun, and the discussion.
Dont know where you got the idea I disrespect others having their beliefs. Have any belief you like. As for celebrating xmas- no, I didnt "celebrate" it at all, a good reason however to have a family gathering and a good piece of pork.
I served my country in the ADF so I do hold close feelings of our fighting forces.
Think you assume a lot, toss a rock then leave the area with no further discussion. Not so friendly.
Tony
-- Edited by Eaglemax on Sunday 29th of December 2019 03:31:43 AM
Rob Driver said
08:37 AM Dec 29, 2019
Ahh!
The joys of religion or politics.
Lighten up folks, the best form of advertising is to get everyone talking about a product.
There is no such thing as bad advertising.
The bun makers have achieved what they want to achieve...sales and being noticed by most people.
I dont buy them, even at Easter as Rob is not keen on them and I can certainly take them or leave them as well.
I find those ones you buy in those 6 or 12 packs taste like plastic compared to years ago when true bakers actually made them.
Dont like them or dont agree with them being available out of the Easter period then leave them on the shelves of the duopoly stores.
Regards and a Happy New Year
Angie
gerard gue said
09:42 AM Dec 29, 2019
No many true bakers anymore..........
TheHeaths said
02:40 PM Dec 29, 2019
Sorry you felt it was unfriendly Tony.
Bushpie said
10:20 PM Dec 29, 2019
Last year I got them Boxing Day. But I have resisted this time round, I still full from Christmas Day......... maybe tomorrow after a day at work. They always taste good.
Eaglemax said
11:18 PM Dec 29, 2019
No probs the Heaths
Im an atheist but I do agree as a society some things should be protected.
A simple rule of placing a circle instead of a cross on the buns 11 months of the year would maintain the significance of Easter and the cross.
...circle buns!
Tony
Brodie Allen said
07:51 AM Dec 30, 2019
TheHeaths wrote:
Sorry Tony, but declining involvement, and times changing are not really valid reasons for disrespect for others beliefs. I assume you celebrated Christmas in some manner?
In my opinion, that is a big part of the problems in society, disregarding and down playing the things other hold as important.
Some other instances of such behaviour that I could quote include those who question Anzac Day, and those who question Australia Day. Certainly the changing of the times is no valid reason in my opinion to question the remembrance of those.
A little more tolerance and support of others beliefs would benefit society immensely.
My interest in this aspect of this topic was not theological, as I am agnostic at best, but purely as a comment on what I see as an erosion of decent social mores in the name of nothing more than profit. I often wonder what reaction would be if other non Christian beliefs were used more openly for profit. Would that be accepted so freely.
So I now retreat to the quiet of my lounge chair, and will leave others to their cup of tea, fruit bun, and the discussion.
Times TWO! Exactly! Good on yer!
Dougwe said
08:57 AM Dec 30, 2019
Struth! Such a warm (nearly heated) discussion over such a small bun. A bit of stirring the pot, mmm, full of fruit too.
For what it's worth, I would settle for NO cross all year until a couple of weeks before Easter.
So very true Ian.
Aussie Paul.
-- Edited by aussie_paul on Friday 27th of December 2019 08:56:59 PM
In my opinion, that is a big part of the problems in society, disregarding and down playing the things other hold as important.
Some other instances of such behaviour that I could quote include those who question Anzac Day, and those who question Australia Day. Certainly the changing of the times is no valid reason in my opinion to question the remembrance of those.
A little more tolerance and support of others beliefs would benefit society immensely.
My interest in this aspect of this topic was not theological, as I am agnostic at best, but purely as a comment on what I see as an erosion of decent social mores in the name of nothing more than profit. I often wonder what reaction would be if other non Christian beliefs were used more openly for profit. Would that be accepted so freely.
So I now retreat to the quiet of my lounge chair, and will leave others to their cup of tea, fruit bun, and the discussion.
My thoughts too. Have just unsubscribed to this thread.
Like an earlier poster, I have easter 12 months of the year.
If you have lost the connotation, look into the ancient origins of Easter -
certainly ain't Christian, but plenty good anyway!!!
So much heathenism adopted by Christianity it's a wonder that the
churches still promote it under a different "tradition".
Brodie
Me too...
-- Edited by yobarr on Saturday 28th of December 2019 09:06:53 PM
Time to leave this thread.
-- Edited by Santa on Saturday 28th of December 2019 08:37:59 PM
Dont know where you got the idea I disrespect others having their beliefs. Have any belief you like. As for celebrating xmas- no, I didnt "celebrate" it at all, a good reason however to have a family gathering and a good piece of pork.
I served my country in the ADF so I do hold close feelings of our fighting forces.
Think you assume a lot, toss a rock then leave the area with no further discussion. Not so friendly.
Tony
-- Edited by Eaglemax on Sunday 29th of December 2019 03:31:43 AM
The joys of religion or politics.
Lighten up folks, the best form of advertising is to get everyone talking about a product.
There is no such thing as bad advertising.
The bun makers have achieved what they want to achieve...sales and being noticed by most people.
I dont buy them, even at Easter as Rob is not keen on them and I can certainly take them or leave them as well.
I find those ones you buy in those 6 or 12 packs taste like plastic compared to years ago when true bakers actually made them.
Dont like them or dont agree with them being available out of the Easter period then leave them on the shelves of the duopoly stores.
Regards and a Happy New Year
Angie
Times TWO! Exactly! Good on yer!
For what it's worth, I would settle for NO cross all year until a couple of weeks before Easter.