Indigenous people are not exempt from camping fees in QPWS areas when camping is recreational Mike. QPWS staff aren't either.
Your taxes, which don't necessarily fund NP in Qld anyway, don't come into the equation. Camping fees are used to cover some consumable costs and to limit the number of visitors. They will never cover construction and maintenance costs.
Pay or don't, your risk.
TheHeaths said
08:20 PM Jun 27, 2019
What wasnt logical about the comments Michael? Was it the fact they didnt agree with your point of view or something else?
I guess from your response, you do not pay the fees, and obviously feel that you are entitled to do it this way. Fortunately most on here dont subscribe to that opinion. I guess you didnt get the support you may have been seeking when you posted.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Thursday 27th of June 2019 08:20:31 PM
Hewy54 said
08:30 PM Jun 27, 2019
TheHeaths wrote:
What wasnt logical about the comments Michael? Was it the fact they didnt agree with your point of view or something else?
I guess from your response, you do not pay the fees, and obviously feel that you are entitled to do it this way. Fortunately most on here dont subscribe to that opinion. I guess you didnt get the support you may have been seeking when you posted.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Thursday 27th of June 2019 08:20:31 PM
Well said.
dabbler said
08:50 PM Jun 27, 2019
+1 TheHeaths, well said.
SouthernComfort said
09:14 AM Jun 28, 2019
MarkAC, "those other tight Victorians"?? What are you on about?
Lily2018 said
11:01 AM Jun 28, 2019
Mike
I suggest you take a step back and have a good think before responding again.
the rocket said
11:15 AM Jun 28, 2019
Hewy54 wrote:
To answer you question from a personal point of view. We always honour the charges, whether national parks, forest, donation camp or whatever. I believe they offer a service, and am willing to pay for that service. If it is a below par service we do not go there.
We do too. Recently stayed at moore qld. 5 stayed overnight. 2 of us got electricity. They ask for a donation to careflight. We were the only ones to donate. I expected the other couple would donate just for the electricity. Someone has to pay for it. But no. Sorry, a bit off topic. Just had to say. Back to the topic.
SouthernComfort said
11:19 AM Jun 28, 2019
Lily2018 wrote:
Mike I suggest you take a step back and have a good think before responding again.
At least two respondents in here could heed that bit of advice...
the rocket said
11:32 AM Jun 28, 2019
I guess, bottom line is, user pays. Its a heck of a lot cheaper than staying in a caravan park And ambience alone is worth it. If you want to pay nothing there r lots of free damps, donation camps and rest areas. I know 2 victorians who come to qld for the winter and stay at a 3 day donation camp for a month And run their genie at night so the misses can have her electric blanket on. i just shake my head. Come on up, youll have a great time. Enjoy.
Mike Harding said
12:36 PM Jun 28, 2019
>I guess from your response, you do not pay the fees
Well I haven't been there yet so it's a bit early for you to say
that, don't you think?
>and obviously feel that you are entitled to do it this way.
Bad law or bad taxation should not be adhered to - except by sheep.
Try this kind of legislation on the French and see where it gets you.
>I guess you didnt get the support you may have been seeking when you
>posted.
It is a very long time since I sought the support of anyone in order
to justify my beliefs and actions and I certainly don't seek such
from the 30 or so people who post 80% of the material to this forum.
The degree of superiority and righteousness presented, over the
years, by many in this group is both considerable and amusing. They
just can't wait to saddle their high horses and attack where they
smell weakness in order to demonstrate their purity. To who do they
need to demonstrate it I often wonder - themselves, perhaps...?
If you allow government to walk all over you then it will - we have,
or damn well should have, an inalienable right to use non secure
Crown land in this country for "quiet enjoyment" and I will not have
money extorted from me by government, with all its power, in order to
lay my swag down on a bit of dirt.
If you are happy to acquiesce to your masters then so be it.
>I suggest you take a step back and have a good think before
>responding again.
Your suggestion is rejected.
---
I initiated this post because many comments on the Wikicamps app.
suggested that most people who use such Qld sites don't pay and I
wondered if that was reflected here but I suspect most of the
respondents to this thread don't use such Qld sites much or at all
and, if Wikicamps is anything to go by, are out of touch with the
masses.
MH.
From a camp on the bank of the Murray River in a Victorian State
Forest where I may camp in a spot of my choosing and stay for four
weeks, no facilities, no charge which suits me well.
Moose2 said
12:54 PM Jun 28, 2019
Gotta agree with what you say Mike. Me thinks we might be 'birds of a feather' or whatever that saying is.
yobarr said
01:05 PM Jun 28, 2019
Hi Mike...well written response below.Stick to your guns.Cheers
msg said
02:07 PM Jun 28, 2019
It makes me sad to read the above posts. This forum used to be a place for "friends" to meet and discuss amicably their thoughts and feelings. So many have left because of attacks from the likes of those that have attacked Mike above.
Is what he said so bad that you have to be so nasty? Don't you have the capacity to simply disagree with what he says? after all, all he said was that he should be able to stay at places where no facilities were offered for no cost.
How about just being nice. The Heaths? I think I have said it before "leave this forum please" you are just a troll intent on destroying.
vince56 said
03:11 PM Jun 28, 2019
MarkAC,
And how many people do they employ at council to provide that service is what I am getting at, the numbers employed at the majority of councils is staggering!
-- Edited by vince56 on Friday 28th of June 2019 03:13:17 PM
TheHeaths said
07:58 PM Jun 28, 2019
Mike Harding wrote:
........
The degree of superiority and righteousness presented, over the
years, by many in this group is both considerable and amusing. They
just can't wait to saddle their high horses and attack where they
smell weakness in order to demonstrate their purity. To who do they
need to demonstrate it I often wonder - themselves, perhaps...?
And therein lies the irony of many of your posts over the years Michael.
I will leave you to your free camp on the Murray, and trust you find somewhere free, but warmer, next year.
MSG, thanks for your friendliness as well. Perhaps heed your own advice regarding posts, as disagreeing with someone is well short of trolling the forum. I also see the irony in your comment when I think back over the years. Perhaps also confine comments to the open forum so we can all see what you have to say, as your feelings expressed are certainly mutual.
I will retire so I dont upset you all further.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Friday 28th of June 2019 08:12:12 PM
Bill B said
08:28 PM Jun 28, 2019
msg wrote:
How about just being nice. The Heaths? I think I have said it before "leave this forum please" you are just a troll intent on destroying.
What's the saying - Pot, Kettle, Black
Webmaster said
09:23 PM Jun 28, 2019
Hi all, I think I will close this now. We would like to keep our forum a welcoming place. Please ensure that your comments focus on the topic rather than on the member who posted. Thanks for your understanding.
What wasnt logical about the comments Michael? Was it the fact they didnt agree with your point of view or something else?
I guess from your response, you do not pay the fees, and obviously feel that you are entitled to do it this way. Fortunately most on here dont subscribe to that opinion. I guess you didnt get the support you may have been seeking when you posted.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Thursday 27th of June 2019 08:20:31 PM
Well said.
MarkAC, "those other tight Victorians"?? What are you on about?
I suggest you take a step back and have a good think before responding again.
We do too. Recently stayed at moore qld. 5 stayed overnight. 2 of us got electricity. They ask for a donation to careflight. We were the only ones to donate. I expected the other couple would donate just for the electricity. Someone has to pay for it. But no. Sorry, a bit off topic. Just had to say. Back to the topic.
At least two respondents in here could heed that bit of advice...
I guess, bottom line is, user pays. Its a heck of a lot cheaper than staying in a caravan park And ambience alone is worth it. If you want to pay nothing there r lots of free damps, donation camps and rest areas. I know 2 victorians who come to qld for the winter and stay at a 3 day donation camp for a month And run their genie at night so the misses can have her electric blanket on. i just shake my head. Come on up, youll have a great time. Enjoy.
>I guess from your response, you do not pay the fees
Well I haven't been there yet so it's a bit early for you to say
that, don't you think?
>and obviously feel that you are entitled to do it this way.
Bad law or bad taxation should not be adhered to - except by sheep.
Try this kind of legislation on the French and see where it gets you.
>I guess you didnt get the support you may have been seeking when you
>posted.
It is a very long time since I sought the support of anyone in order
to justify my beliefs and actions and I certainly don't seek such
from the 30 or so people who post 80% of the material to this forum.
The degree of superiority and righteousness presented, over the
years, by many in this group is both considerable and amusing. They
just can't wait to saddle their high horses and attack where they
smell weakness in order to demonstrate their purity. To who do they
need to demonstrate it I often wonder - themselves, perhaps...?
If you allow government to walk all over you then it will - we have,
or damn well should have, an inalienable right to use non secure
Crown land in this country for "quiet enjoyment" and I will not have
money extorted from me by government, with all its power, in order to
lay my swag down on a bit of dirt.
If you are happy to acquiesce to your masters then so be it.
>I suggest you take a step back and have a good think before
>responding again.
Your suggestion is rejected.
---
I initiated this post because many comments on the Wikicamps app.
suggested that most people who use such Qld sites don't pay and I
wondered if that was reflected here but I suspect most of the
respondents to this thread don't use such Qld sites much or at all
and, if Wikicamps is anything to go by, are out of touch with the
masses.
MH.
From a camp on the bank of the Murray River in a Victorian State
Forest where I may camp in a spot of my choosing and stay for four
weeks, no facilities, no charge which suits me well.
Gotta agree with what you say Mike. Me thinks we might be 'birds of a feather' or whatever that saying is.
Hi Mike...well written response below.Stick to your guns.Cheers
Is what he said so bad that you have to be so nasty? Don't you have the capacity to simply disagree with what he says? after all, all he said was that he should be able to stay at places where no facilities were offered for no cost.
How about just being nice. The Heaths? I think I have said it before "leave this forum please" you are just a troll intent on destroying.
MarkAC,
And how many people do they employ at council to provide that service is what I am getting at, the numbers employed at the majority of councils is staggering!
-- Edited by vince56 on Friday 28th of June 2019 03:13:17 PM
And therein lies the irony of many of your posts over the years Michael.
I will leave you to your free camp on the Murray, and trust you find somewhere free, but warmer, next year.
MSG, thanks for your friendliness as well. Perhaps heed your own advice regarding posts, as disagreeing with someone is well short of trolling the forum. I also see the irony in your comment when I think back over the years. Perhaps also confine comments to the open forum so we can all see what you have to say, as your feelings expressed are certainly mutual.
I will retire so I dont upset you all further.
-- Edited by TheHeaths on Friday 28th of June 2019 08:12:12 PM
What's the saying - Pot, Kettle, Black
Hi all,
I think I will close this now. We would like to keep our forum a welcoming place. Please ensure that your comments focus on the topic rather than on the member who posted.
Thanks for your understanding.