"No Camping" signs means you're encouraged to camp there?
Aus-Kiwi said
05:04 PM Mar 16, 2016
If it said "NO PARKING" !! Means you cannot park there . If I park ? I'm not camping ..
KFT said
08:32 PM Mar 16, 2016
Tony Bev Wrote "I can also visualise a local Ranger, carrying out his duties, and booking them all at 5 am the next morning."
With respect to the Pacific hwy in NSW the rest areas are all under the control of NSWRMS so a council ranger would have no jurisdiction and with a copy of the reply from NSWRMS giving permission to rest overnight I would think any ranger would be foolish to pursue the matter. IMHO
Frank
Tony Bev said
10:51 PM Mar 16, 2016
KFT wrote:
Tony Bev Wrote "I can also visualise a local Ranger, carrying out his duties, and booking them all at 5 am the next morning."
With respect to the Pacific hwy in NSW the rest areas are all under the control of NSWRMS so a council ranger would have no jurisdiction and with a copy of the reply from NSWRMS giving permission to rest overnight I would think any ranger would be foolish to pursue the matter. IMHO
Frank
Hello KFT
Thanks for that information Frank, I do appreciate you clearing up, my somewhat less than clear vision on the subject
This is now becoming much clearer to me, when I separate the Pacific Hwy, from the East Coast seaside areas
I have now interpretated the subject (I could be wrong), in this simple manner.
Pacific Hwy which is controlled by the NSW RMS (much like our WA MRD) will allow overnight resting, for one night only, in a day rest area, with No Camping signs erected. As per your reply from them
Reading between the lines, the NSWRMS is saying that if you are fatigued, then by all means use our No Camping rest stops, to revive yourself, but we will leave the No Camping signs errected, to discourage those travellers who would like to use the rest areas for longer periods, such as camping
Also
Leaving the Pacific Hwy, and overnight stopping at day rest areas close to the seaside, or in built up areas, which are controlled by the local councils, will be blatantly flouting the council rules, which are enforceable by the local Rangers.
There is always the 50% chance that I am wrong
Aus-Kiwi said
01:09 AM Mar 17, 2016
How does the ranger know you've been camping ?
Tony Bev said
01:25 PM Mar 17, 2016
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
How does the ranger know you've been camping ?
Hello Aus-Kiwi
In 2014 I stayed overnight at Mother of Ducks Lagoon, on the perimeter of Guyra in NSW. It was recommended to me by seasoned travellers, on the road. I was also informed that the 24 hour rule was enforced by the Ranger who came around mid morning and evening, and wrote down the number plates in his notebook. I assume that other Rangers, in other built up places, would have a similar system.
Slightly off topic, but I can highly recommend an overnight stop at Guyra, the locals at that time had already lost their hardware store, through lack of patronage. What I saved by avoiding their caravan park, was spent in their shops
PeterD said
07:36 PM Mar 17, 2016
madaboutled wrote:Seems strange to me that the main Grey Nomad's website doesn't have an obvious page or link listing all the past newsletters like other sites do.
Go to the top of this page. In the top RH corner you will see Click here to visit the Grey Nomads website, click on that. That takes you to the GN main page. Part way down the LHS you will see a blue rectangle with the appropriate link wording in it.
Baz421 said
08:13 PM Mar 17, 2016
Tony Bev wrote:
Aus-Kiwi wrote:
How does the ranger know you've been camping ?
Hello Aus-Kiwi
In 2014 I stayed overnight at Mother of Ducks Lagoon, on the perimeter of Guyra in NSW. It was recommended to me by seasoned travellers, on the road. I was also informed that the 24 hour rule was enforced by the Ranger who came around mid morning and evening, and wrote down the number plates in his notebook. I assume that other Rangers, in other built up places, would have a similar system.
Slightly off topic, but I can highly recommend an overnight stop at Guyra, the locals at that time had already lost their hardware store, through lack of patronage. What I saved by avoiding their caravan park, was spent in their shops
Yes but the system is often "corrupted" by some (rangers and others including some on this forum) whereby they "arrange" when the ranger will next reappear. THE AIM is to overstay the allotted time. We gave up in QLD beach areas near Townsville in QLD in 2013 after we found out what was happening.
How do I know - I wanted to get in and a mate was ahead and relaying if spaces available etc and the ranger told him straight up the "arrangement".
madaboutled said
11:25 PM Mar 17, 2016
PeterD wrote:
madaboutled wrote:Seems strange to me that the main Grey Nomad's website doesn't have an obvious page or link listing all the past newsletters like other sites do.
Go to the top of this page. In the top RH corner you will see Click here to visit the Grey Nomads website, click on that. That takes you to the GN main page. Part way down the LHS you will see a blue rectangle with the appropriate link wording in it.
Call me weird but I'm a bit old school when it comes to the layout of web pages and would expect to find the link somewhere within the navigation menu's at the top of the page. Yes, can see it now but it's far from obvious.
Tony Bev Wrote "I can also visualise a local Ranger, carrying out his duties, and booking them all at 5 am the next morning."
With respect to the Pacific hwy in NSW the rest areas are all under the control of NSWRMS so a council ranger would have no jurisdiction and with a copy of the reply from NSWRMS giving permission to rest overnight I would think any ranger would be foolish to pursue the matter. IMHO
Frank
Hello KFT
Thanks for that information Frank, I do appreciate you clearing up, my somewhat less than clear vision on the subject
This is now becoming much clearer to me, when I separate the Pacific Hwy, from the East Coast seaside areas
I have now interpretated the subject (I could be wrong), in this simple manner.
Pacific Hwy which is controlled by the NSW RMS (much like our WA MRD) will allow overnight resting, for one night only, in a day rest area, with No Camping signs erected. As per your reply from them
Reading between the lines, the NSWRMS is saying that if you are fatigued, then by all means use our No Camping rest stops, to revive yourself, but we will leave the No Camping signs errected, to discourage those travellers who would like to use the rest areas for longer periods, such as camping
Also
Leaving the Pacific Hwy, and overnight stopping at day rest areas close to the seaside, or in built up areas, which are controlled by the local councils, will be blatantly flouting the council rules, which are enforceable by the local Rangers.
There is always the 50% chance that I am wrong
Hello Aus-Kiwi
In 2014 I stayed overnight at Mother of Ducks Lagoon, on the perimeter of Guyra in NSW. It was recommended to me by seasoned travellers, on the road. I was also informed that the 24 hour rule was enforced by the Ranger who came around mid morning and evening, and wrote down the number plates in his notebook. I assume that other Rangers, in other built up places, would have a similar system.
Slightly off topic, but I can highly recommend an overnight stop at Guyra, the locals at that time had already lost their hardware store, through lack of patronage. What I saved by avoiding their caravan park, was spent in their shops
Go to the top of this page. In the top RH corner you will see Click here to visit the Grey Nomads website, click on that. That takes you to the GN main page. Part way down the LHS you will see a blue rectangle with the appropriate link wording in it.
Yes but the system is often "corrupted" by some (rangers and others including some on this forum) whereby they "arrange" when the ranger will next reappear. THE AIM is to overstay the allotted time. We gave up in QLD beach areas near Townsville in QLD in 2013 after we found out what was happening.
How do I know - I wanted to get in and a mate was ahead and relaying if spaces available etc and the ranger told him straight up the "arrangement".
Call me weird but I'm a bit old school when it comes to the layout of web pages and would expect to find the link somewhere within the navigation menu's at the top of the page. Yes, can see it now but it's far from obvious.