(a) to erect portable shelter suitable for sleeping in overnight, whether or not that portable shelter is on or attached to a vehicle; or
(b) being in any such portable shelter at any time during a night; or
(c) to sleep at any time during a night in the open or in any vehicle or shelter except a building designed for human habitation; or
(d) at any time during a night, to place, park or leave a vehicle that appears designed or equipped internally or externally to accommodate overnight sleeping, including a mobile home, camper van, caravan, slide-on-van, fifth wheeler, camper trailer or any other similar vehicle.
rockylizard said
12:16 PM Jul 21, 2015
Gday...
yep ... that's one
I betcha every municipality has their own definition ... and that is the problem - they all won't be the same definition.
Your 'extract' is from one Bylaw for the Latrrobe Shire in Tasmania - seemingly for their Cotton Street, LaTrobe camping area.
1100 KLM a day and plenty of stop must have a helicopter
Hi Terry,
Well kinda, Its not a Bell jet Ranger. It has two werlie things under the bonnet called twin turbo's and 650 Ponies out front V8 TTD.GX
Leaves the 15 yearold V6 petrol Parado back in NSW.
I love it to death and will never part with it. Just the best tow truck, I use it everyday for my work.
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 21st of July 2015 05:05:17 PM
Hey Jim said
12:42 PM Jul 21, 2015
Dougwe wrote:
Mmmmm, no camera hey Jim, the mind is running wild mate
Now Doug,
You get yourself off into the naughty corner right away for two hours. Strickly Honourable over here, elbow bending is the name of the game.
Desert Dweller said
02:44 PM Jul 21, 2015
Lots of incorrect assumptions from ''rocklizard''. The photo was taken at first light 6.50am, the windscreen of the tug was covered in ice & they were still nigh nighs.
So ''rocklizard'' is very familiar with Murrayville? How come he didn't know that there's been a Caravan Park there for over 20 years & there are 3 signs indicating that, one under the MURRAYVILLE town sign as you enter from both directions & a large one saying CARAVAN PARK 300MTRS prominently displayed on the Mallee Hwy right in the centre of a town with a Pub & 6 shops. LOL. We're pretty flexible but what if we all did what those morons were doing, what would happen then? We could have posted its rego number but THAT would have been an invasion of privacy!
kiwijims said
03:33 PM Jul 21, 2015
That's a nice looking hunk of steak you have there 03 troopy, what time does the B.B.Q start, ?
we'll bring the salad no worries
K.J.
03_Troopy said
03:39 PM Jul 21, 2015
I should have taken a couple off it. I had the chainsaw in the boot too
Hey Jim said
04:51 PM Jul 21, 2015
03_Troopy wrote:
I should have taken a couple off it. I had the chainsaw in the boot too
Hey Bob,
You should have.
I carry the Ryobi 18v cordless chain saw in the back for the same reasons. Those hind legs just pop off. Fresh young heffer rump steaks + all that top side for our camp oven,yummie.
What a waste of good meat + its already tenderised too. Im a stickler for fresh road kill. $200 + left for the crows again.
Jim
Hey Jim said
05:01 PM Jul 21, 2015
Desert Dweller wrote:
Lots of incorrect assumptions from ''rocklizard''. The photo was taken at first light 6.50am, the windscreen of the tug was covered in ice & they were still nigh nighs. So ''rocklizard'' is very familiar with Murrayville? How come he didn't know that there's been a Caravan Park there for over 20 years & there are 3 signs indicating that, one under the MURRAYVILLE town sign as you enter from both directions & a large one saying CARAVAN PARK 300MTRS prominently displayed on the Mallee Hwy right in the centre of a town with a Pub & 6 shops. LOL. We're pretty flexible but what if we all did what those morons were doing, what would happen then? We could have posted its rego number but THAT would have been an invasion of privacy!
Hi Keith,
From your observations then, they were asleep in the car then! They must have been that buggered that they couldn't make it into their van then. Were you that close!
Only joking Keith. I don't want your blood pressure going up now.
Hey Jim & Lambie
Goldfinger said
05:54 PM Jul 21, 2015
Yes.....but the obvious question?.....what were they actually wearing when they went "nigh nighs"....?....with night vision optics it can often be hard to tell.......did the telephoto lens get clear photo evidence?.......bet they don't stay there again.....far too much stalking behind the bushes....not to mention the tongue spittle all over their windows......lmao...Hoo Roo
Kendo said
06:21 PM Jul 21, 2015
"When are these morons going to stop giving the rest of us a bad name?" - I don't think they did, but you however?
Without knowing their circumstance I think your language and presumptions are simply unfair.
If you felt so strongly about it why didn't you politely knock on the door and ask if they required any assistance? Isn't that the Grey Nomad / Aussie way?
Desert Dweller said
07:48 PM Jul 21, 2015
Kendo wrote:
"When are these morons going to stop giving the rest of us a bad name?" - I don't think they did, but you however?
Without knowing their circumstance I think your language and presumptions are simply unfair.
If you felt so strongly about it why didn't you politely knock on the door and ask if they required any assistance? Isn't that the Grey Nomad / Aussie way?
Is that what we get for being honest & paying $9.90 to stay in a lovely community run Caravan Park. The only assistance that they may have needed was to find their conscience.
Hey Jim said
08:08 PM Jul 21, 2015
Goldfinger wrote:
Yes.....but the obvious question?.....what were they actually wearing when they went "nigh nighs"....?....with night vision optics it can often be hard to tell.......did the telephoto lens get clear photo evidence?.......bet they don't stay there again.....far too much stalking behind the bushes....not to mention the tongue spittle all over their windows......lmao...Hoo Roo
Ho no Lorry, not you too!
You never mentioned that you use night vision optics whiles't out detecting.
Now Lorry,........... you have us ALL worried as to your night sorties around the camp (What were they actually wearing when they went "nigh nighs" it can often be hard to tell ( Quote) Hmmmm!
Doug where are you when we need you. Chief are you out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lorry, Hope your mate's out Laverton don't see this.
Phil Make shaw brain is engaged before putting mouth into gear. Centrelink could be monitoring.
Hey Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 21st of July 2015 08:10:44 PM
Dougwe said
08:15 PM Jul 21, 2015
I am here but keeping out of it as I really think it has got out of hand. The people that were photographed were there and we can't change that. No need everyone getting upset with each other. Forget about it now and just enjoy the playground. Enjoy life. Far too short.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
Hey Jim said
08:24 PM Jul 21, 2015
Keith,
I think your on a Winner here. How about A new topic along (The naughty nomads days of our lives) The ABC could carry it live across this big land.
Like Bananas in pyjams Just change the subjects eh!
Hey Jim
Dougwe said
08:26 PM Jul 21, 2015
Can I bring my camera Jim
Bruce and Bev said
08:36 PM Jul 21, 2015
Hell Bob - that's a pretty big bit of flesh to hit!!
Bet you didn't think so at the time, but you were bloody lucky - almost looks like the door would still open and close. Is that just dirt, part of the steer or damage on the leading edge of the van??
My missus ran over a smallish lizard a few months back and it felt like we'd gone over the top of a log and the underneath of our van was almost totally coated in the lizard.
Hey Jim said
08:52 PM Jul 21, 2015
Doug,
Why not, just keep the SD card in the glove box.
Jim
Hey Jim said
09:02 PM Jul 21, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Hell Bob - that's a pretty big bit of flesh to hit!!
Bet you didn't think so at the time, but you were bloody lucky - almost looks like the door would still open and close. Is that just dirt, part of the steer or damage on the leading edge of the van??
My missus ran over a smallish lizard a few months back and it felt like we'd gone over the top of a log and the underneath of our van was almost totally coated in the lizard.
Hi Bruce & Bev,
At lease Bev did right. Never felt a thing.
Back in 2012 we were heading back east, 30km out of Carnarvon An Emu run from no where and we hit it full on.
Lambie asked? did you kill it!..... I replied......... Don't know still 80 feet up............... Can't see for the cloud of feathers........... GO FIGURE
Hey Jim & Lambie
Goldfinger said
11:25 PM Jul 21, 2015
It's simply not true this is the driver seen leaving his 'hide' after his night of watching all the activity and camera flashes in the surrounding bushes....next time he will stay in a Caravan Park..for sure...lol....he muttered something about a sign that said 'Fine for Camping' ..so he did....Hoo Roo
We're at Murrayville for a week, this is our 4th day. Apparently the Murrayville police were out on patrol moving RVer's on from places they should not be in Murrayville & just down the Hwy in Underbool. That doesn't include the legal Underbool Travellers Rest. This info came first hand from some-one who had been moved on from Underbool & came to legally camp at Murrayville CP near us.
03_Troopy said
07:51 AM Jul 22, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
Hell Bob - that's a pretty big bit of flesh to hit!!
Bet you didn't think so at the time, but you were bloody lucky - almost looks like the door would still open and close. Is that just dirt, part of the steer or damage on the leading edge of the van??
My missus ran over a smallish lizard a few months back and it felt like we'd gone over the top of a log and the underneath of our van was almost totally coated in the lizard.
Actually Bruce, there was virtually no damage to the door, it looks a bit strange because of the reflections. Only real damage was to the bull bar and the side of the front guard where he spun around and hit it with his hind quarters. The brown marks are the result of what happens when you get a big fright . Luckily I was travelling at about 80KPH (due too the number of roos and goats we saw along the sides of the road), when I saw him and was probably only doing about 50ish when I collected him just behind the ear with the bullbar (which saved the rest of the vehicle from any major damage). We were able to continue our journey and the troopy is in getting a new bull bar and the dents in the mud guard repaired right now.
Dougwe said
08:32 AM Jul 22, 2015
It looks more like a map of OZ ta me.
Happywanderer said
08:33 AM Jul 22, 2015
Dougwe wrote:
I am here but keeping out of it as I really think it has got out of hand. The people that were photographed were there and we can't change that. No need everyone getting upset with each other. Forget about it now and just enjoy the playground. Enjoy life. Far too short.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
I totally agree with Doug on this one. Who knows why they were stopped there. There could be a number of reasons but I don't see how it affects us.
My interpretation of the original sign is No Tents. I have seen signs that show Caravans, Motorhomes with a cross through it and No Camping. To me that means everyone. This one means tents.
One day you might have to find a discreet spot for the night, I know I have. Are you going to feel guilty, I don't.
Ontos45 said
10:35 AM Jul 22, 2015
Dougwe wrote:
I am here but keeping out of it as I really think it has got out of hand. The people that were photographed were there and we can't change that. No need everyone getting upset with each other. Forget about it now and just enjoy the playground. Enjoy life. Far too short.
Keep Safe out there everyone.
My sentiments exactly mate.
I get sick sometimes with the "holier than thou" attitude of some on here, like they missed their calling as coppers (no offence to ex's). If the Government ever had a bounty on illegal camping they would line up for their free camera and charge book.
As Dougwe says, enjoy the playground while we can and live and let live.
Peter
Desert Dweller said
07:50 PM Jul 22, 2015
Ontos45 wrote:
As Dougwe says, enjoy the playground while we can and live and let live.
Peter
No ''holy attitude'' here just genuine concern that if people keep stopping overnight in places that are designated NO CAMPING areas there won't be anywhere to rest legally in the PLAYGROUND on our travels. Anyone who interprets that sign as ''no tents'' must obviously be suffering from dementia!
Rock said
11:30 AM Jul 24, 2015
Hmmm. I'm getting the impression that some people get their exercise from jumping to conclusions, jumping the gun and climbing the wall. As my US Brothers are want to say- "Driver on Brother, drive on". Metaphorically speaking and not when one is tired of course.....
Santa said
01:25 PM Jul 24, 2015
Hey Jim wrote:
as we travel up to 1100km in a day crossing from East to West. we are both still working full time an want maxium down time in our time away.( Yes we do take regular breaks throughout the day
Regards Jim & Lambie
1100 km per day with regular rest breaks!!!! an 11 hour driving day would require an average speed of 100 kph, throw in rest breaks, not sure how you manage it
Statistics claim tired driving is as dangerous as drunk driving.
-- Edited by Santa on Friday 24th of July 2015 01:27:14 PM
Hey Jim said
10:58 PM Jul 24, 2015
Santa wrote:
Hey Jim wrote:
as we travel up to 1100km in a day crossing from East to West. we are both still working full time an want maxium down time in our time away.( Yes we do take regular breaks throughout the day
Regards Jim & Lambie
1100 km per day with regular rest breaks!!!! an 11 hour driving day would require an average speed of 100 kph, throw in rest breaks, not sure how you manage it
Statistics claim tired driving is as dangerous as drunk driving.
-- Edited by Santa on Friday 24th of July 2015 01:27:14 PM
Hi Santa,
Not a problem at all,
Love night driving best of all. We miss the locals going out on a Saturday morning to get the local papers, Miss the Sunday drivers too.
To give you a days run for us go's like this.
2am Saturday we pull out of Sydney for Broken Hill NSW. We stop Bathurst for our first pit stop (piddle) and coffee break. 7.15am Dubbo for breakie at Mc Donnalds + (Piddle) and refuel. From here the road ahead is flat no hill climbs and a clear road ahead with over taking a will.
Cobar is early lunch + (Piddle) 11.30am. Again a clear road ahead with over taking at will. Arriving Broken Hill 1144km Must Piddle ouch, by 5pm . Refuel ready for Port Augusta SA the next morning. Dinner at the Muscians club B Hill, and a early night.
I do Exmouth WA in Seven days driving on C/C @ 102kmph. We go up through Kalgoolie to Linster and across to Geraldton then up. No traffic what so ever. The V8 TTD Cruiser sits on 1800 rpm all day in 5th overdrive and we return fuel figures of 16.8 - 18.3 worst per 100km towing 1900kg boat / trailer.
PS: There's no time for loitering behind the bushes either.
For those that are interested.
Gday...
I betcha every municipality has their own definition
... and that is the problem - they all won't be the same definition. 
Your 'extract' is from one Bylaw for the Latrrobe Shire in Tasmania - seemingly for their Cotton Street, LaTrobe camping area.
http://www.latrobe.tas.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/By-law_1_of_2007.pdf
Cheers - John
Hi Terry,
Well kinda, Its not a Bell jet Ranger. It has two werlie things under the bonnet called twin turbo's and 650 Ponies out front V8 TTD.GX
Leaves the 15 yearold V6 petrol Parado back in NSW.
I love it to death and will never part with it. Just the best tow truck, I use it everyday for my work.
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 21st of July 2015 05:05:17 PM
Now Doug,
You get yourself off into the naughty corner right away for two hours. Strickly Honourable over here, elbow bending is the name of the game.
So ''rocklizard'' is very familiar with Murrayville? How come he didn't know that there's been a Caravan Park there for over 20 years & there are 3 signs indicating that, one under the MURRAYVILLE town sign as you enter from both directions & a large one saying CARAVAN PARK 300MTRS prominently displayed on the Mallee Hwy right in the centre of a town with a Pub & 6 shops. LOL. We're pretty flexible but what if we all did what those morons were doing, what would happen then? We could have posted its rego number but THAT would have been an invasion of privacy!
That's a nice looking hunk of steak you have there 03 troopy, what time does the B.B.Q start, ?
we'll bring the salad no worries
K.J.
Hey Bob,
You should have.
I carry the Ryobi 18v cordless chain saw in the back for the same reasons. Those hind legs just pop off. Fresh young heffer rump steaks + all that top side for our camp oven,yummie.
What a waste of good meat + its already tenderised too.
Im a stickler for fresh road kill. $200 + left for the crows again.
Jim
Hi Keith,
From your observations then, they were asleep in the car then! They must have been that buggered that they couldn't make it into their van then.
Were you that close!
Only joking Keith.
I don't want your blood pressure going up now.
Hey Jim & Lambie
"When are these morons going to stop giving the rest of us a bad name?" - I don't think they did, but you however?
Without knowing their circumstance I think your language and presumptions are simply unfair.
If you felt so strongly about it why didn't you politely knock on the door and ask if they required any assistance? Isn't that the Grey Nomad / Aussie way?
Is that what we get for being honest & paying $9.90 to stay in a lovely community run Caravan Park. The only assistance that they may have needed was to find their conscience.
Ho no Lorry, not you too!
You never mentioned that you use night vision optics whiles't out detecting.
Now Lorry,........... you have us ALL worried as to your night sorties around the camp (What were they actually wearing when they went "nigh nighs" it can often be hard to tell ( Quote) Hmmmm!
Doug where are you when we need you. Chief are you out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lorry, Hope your mate's out Laverton don't see this.
Phil Make shaw brain is engaged before putting mouth into gear. Centrelink could be monitoring.
Hey Jim
-- Edited by Hey Jim on Tuesday 21st of July 2015 08:10:44 PM
Keep Safe out there everyone.
Keith,
I think your on a Winner here. How about A new topic along (The naughty nomads days of our lives)
The ABC could carry it live across this big land.
Like Bananas in pyjams Just change the subjects eh!
Hey Jim
Bet you didn't think so at the time, but you were bloody lucky - almost looks like the door would still open and close. Is that just dirt, part of the steer or damage on the leading edge of the van??
My missus ran over a smallish lizard a few months back and it felt like we'd gone over the top of a log and the underneath of our van was almost totally coated in the lizard.
Doug,
Why not, just keep the SD card in the glove box.
Jim
Hi Bruce & Bev,
At lease Bev did right. Never felt a thing.
Back in 2012 we were heading back east, 30km out of Carnarvon An Emu run from no where and we hit it full on.
Lambie asked? did you kill it!..... I replied......... Don't know still 80 feet up............... Can't see for the cloud of feathers........... GO FIGURE
Hey Jim & Lambie
It's simply not true this is the driver seen leaving his 'hide' after his night of watching all the activity and camera flashes in the surrounding bushes....next time he will stay in a Caravan Park..for sure...lol....he muttered something about a sign that said 'Fine for Camping' ..so he did....Hoo Roo
Actually Bruce, there was virtually no damage to the door, it looks a bit strange because of the reflections. Only real damage was to the bull bar and the side of the front guard where he spun around and hit it with his hind quarters. The brown marks are the result of what happens when you get a big fright
. Luckily I was travelling at about 80KPH (due too the number of roos and goats we saw along the sides of the road), when I saw him and was probably only doing about 50ish when I collected him just behind the ear with the bullbar (which saved the rest of the vehicle from any major damage). We were able to continue our journey and the troopy is in getting a new bull bar and the dents in the mud guard repaired right now.
I totally agree with Doug on this one. Who knows why they were stopped there. There could be a number of reasons but I don't see how it affects us.
My interpretation of the original sign is No Tents. I have seen signs that show Caravans, Motorhomes with a cross through it and No Camping. To me that means everyone. This one means tents.
One day you might have to find a discreet spot for the night, I know I have. Are you going to feel guilty, I don't.
My sentiments exactly mate.
I get sick sometimes with the "holier than thou" attitude of some on here, like they missed their calling as coppers (no offence to ex's). If the Government ever had a bounty on illegal camping they would line up for their free camera and charge book.
As Dougwe says, enjoy the playground while we can and live and let live.
Peter
No ''holy attitude'' here just genuine concern that if people keep stopping overnight in places that are designated NO CAMPING areas there won't be anywhere to rest legally in the PLAYGROUND on our travels. Anyone who interprets that sign as ''no tents'' must obviously be suffering from dementia!
1100 km per day with regular rest breaks!!!! an 11 hour driving day would require an average speed of 100 kph, throw in rest breaks, not sure how you manage it
Statistics claim tired driving is as dangerous as drunk driving.
-- Edited by Santa on Friday 24th of July 2015 01:27:14 PM
Hi Santa,
Not a problem at all,
Love night driving best of all. We miss the locals going out on a Saturday morning to get the local papers, Miss the Sunday drivers too.
To give you a days run for us go's like this.
2am Saturday we pull out of Sydney for Broken Hill NSW. We stop Bathurst for our first pit stop (piddle) and coffee break. 7.15am Dubbo for breakie at Mc Donnalds + (Piddle) and refuel. From here the road ahead is flat no hill climbs and a clear road ahead with over taking a will.
Cobar is early lunch + (Piddle) 11.30am. Again a clear road ahead with over taking at will. Arriving Broken Hill 1144km Must Piddle ouch, by 5pm . Refuel ready for Port Augusta SA the next morning. Dinner at the Muscians club B Hill, and a early night.
I do Exmouth WA in Seven days driving on C/C @ 102kmph. We go up through Kalgoolie to Linster and across to Geraldton then up. No traffic what so ever. The V8 TTD Cruiser sits on 1800 rpm all day in 5th overdrive and we return fuel figures of 16.8 - 18.3 worst per 100km towing 1900kg boat / trailer.
PS: There's no time for loitering behind the bushes either.
Hey Jim
Hey Jim. When do you smell the roses??