Mr D I have been searching all types of windmills Aussie type and Dutch type ,
gee ....i have been thinking day and night ,
A whirligig type looks a bit easier
I have to give the making of windmill head (blade setup ) out of sticks a lot more thought,
as you say , it can be done , however i have never found a stick Aussie windmill photo.
Good thing though , I have learnt much about Dutch mills of all kinds.
Cheers and happy sticking from Paul
Dunmowin said
01:46 PM Mar 24, 2015
Now Paul, had never thought of a dutch windmill!
Why not give that a go, give it a lot of thought tho, as to how the blades would work the cogs below, remembering that the dutch windmills usually ground grain. Southern Cross (Aussie one) would be a lot easier, you probably won't find out made of our sticks until you make one your self. Dimension will be the greatest issue!
Having said that, in the garden where we are housesitting is a small one, probably about 4 metres tall. Would you like John to measure it a take some photos for you to work with? You could work out your own scale and take it from there.
Happy sticking! That made Mr D really laugh.
my van said
01:54 PM Mar 24, 2015
Yes a pic would be encouraging
thank you for the help
.... From Paul
Dunmowin said
05:26 PM Mar 24, 2015
Ok, will be forthcoming in the next day or so.
my van said
05:31 PM Mar 24, 2015
Starting to warm to the idea of a windmill ,
However it would be a difficult task
happy sticking ... From Paul
my van said
03:58 PM Mar 27, 2015
Stick windmill is on the way
200mm head
might take me a few weeks
12 to 1 scale for head
tower will be 400 mm high
cheers and happy stick ssticking
from Paul
Texas said
11:01 AM Mar 28, 2015
Hi - when gluing the sticks together how do you get rid of the excess glue that will obviously be there after you have clamped them.
Also I thought I saw a post where you gave a list of what equipment is required to make the models - couldn't find it although must admit didn't look to hard - being lazy. Was there such a post? Thanks
my van said
02:12 PM Mar 28, 2015
TexasTexas
every worker / sticker. decides for him self
what tooled he needs or wishes to employ.
A piece of rag is used to wipe away excess glpues
what are you making ?
cheers from Paul
Sheba said
08:43 PM Mar 28, 2015
Texas wrote:
Hi - when gluing the sticks together how do you get rid of the excess glue that will obviously be there after you have clamped them.
Also I thought I saw a post where you gave a list of what equipment is required to make the models - couldn't find it although must admit didn't look to hard - being lazy. Was there such a post? Thanks
If this is what you were looking for, you only had to go back to the first page Texas.
"The buggy's dimensions are 350 mil long, 170 wide, 150 high, wheels outside diameter 130. Scale is 1:12. The cobb and co coach is also 1:12, can't measure in now cos it is in a museum.
Thanks Rob49
Patience comes with being on the road full time, sometimes you just have to stay put for a while, so this keeps Mr D's brain and fingers occupied. He has to work the whole thing out as there are no patterns or instructions. His men's shed consists of a board to glue the match sticks on, various small tools, i.e. dremel, pin drill, small hammer, aquadhere, very sharp knife, sand paper, soldering iron, oh, of course, matchsticks, and paint.
Pick a subject, photo graph and measure it, divide each measurement by 12 and start on one section, i.e. the draw bar, or the base of the cart, and just build on. Just copy the photos. Wheels (yes they are also made out of match sticks) are the biggest challenge (our secret for the time being) All the metal work is brass that can be soldered.
Simple exercise might be an out door dunny, or an old water tank. Not hard, just need to put it all together.
Next challenge might be a timber jinker, or a furphy, just have to find one to photograph."
Cheers,
Sheba.
Dunmowin said
10:32 PM Mar 29, 2015
Dunmowin wrote:
Ok, will be forthcoming in the next day or so.
Whooops, got so excited about packing up and moving again, forgot to measure the windmill. Paul, hope you are coping OK with your latest model.
Dunmowin said
10:33 PM Mar 29, 2015
Texas wrote:
Hi - when gluing the sticks together how do you get rid of the excess glue that will obviously be there after you have clamped them.
Also I thought I saw a post where you gave a list of what equipment is required to make the models - couldn't find it although must admit didn't look to hard - being lazy. Was there such a post? Thanks
hi Texas, if you hae to get rid of excess glue, you are obviously using too much. See our instructions on how to dip the match in a blob of glue - just sort of wipe it through the glue
my van said
02:51 PM Apr 1, 2015
I am slowing a bit with the models trying to finish off
wheelbarrow #2 and a cottage however windmill is on the way .
Cheers from Paul
Dunmowin said
04:57 PM Apr 9, 2015
Paul, there is no race. Take your time with each model and finish is completely before moving on.
Hope you had a great Easter.
my van said
08:13 PM Apr 11, 2015
Too much gardening to do and camping gear mtce ,
Nearly finished #2 wheel barrow, windmill is a bit slow
but I will get more time when I get back out camping again next week ay.
I do hope your project is getting along ok
Cheers from Paul
my van said
11:51 AM Apr 16, 2015
Hi Mr D
I would be very thankful it I could get help. With painting.
Things are regressing when it comes to painting the wheelbarrow ,
I am using acrylic four seasons timber paint, ( new can )
The result is not good , I can't get a smooth finish .
Wood filler and paint on project then sanded with 120 sandpaper , still a shocking finish
The only option might be to use enamel paint , ??? Or something else.
Will this enamel paint do any better to get a smooth finish ?
Painting every piece before glueing the job together may help ....that will take a much longer time to complete the project.
Painting has taken me more time then construction
Well that is my progress ....!
Stuck.
Dunmowin said
01:46 PM Apr 16, 2015
my van wrote:
Hi Mr D
I would be very thankful it I could get help. With painting.
Things are regressing when it comes to painting the wheelbarrow ,
I am using acrylic four seasons timber paint, ( new can )
The result is not good , I can't get a smooth finish .
Wood filler and paint on project then sanded with 120 sandpaper , still a shocking finish
The only option might be to use enamel paint , ??? Or something else.
Will this enamel paint do any better to get a smooth finish ?
Painting every piece before glueing the job together may help ....that will take a much longer time to complete the project.
Painting has taken me more time then construction
Well that is my progress ....!
Stuck.
Hi Paul, hope I can help.
Don't use enamel, because it is difficult to sand between coats, its messy, and needs more prep.
I use water based paint, usually from Bunnings they have a great range of sample pots that are cheap.
After the main coats of water based first and second coats, I then highlight with different colours, this time I do use enamel, Little tins model paint from the toy shop, $3 each, I prefer Matt....
I don't use wood filler at all, because it will fall out as the timber dries in a few years.
If you are not happy with the finish, sand it back and give another coat of primer. Should not need to use undercoat when using water based paints. For finishing use 280 or 320...as 120 is way to rough for finishing.
I don't recommend painting sections then glue together. as timber glue wont hold on the paint
When painting, carry plenty of paint on your brush, but no dribbles or runs.
don't over work the paint, as you will put brush lines in it as it dries.
the paint should be wet as it goes on, and stop brushing before it loses its wetness.
Don't paint in a sunny window, as the paint will dry to quick in the sun light.
my van said
07:22 PM Apr 16, 2015
my van wrote:
Hi Mr D
I would be very thankful it I could get help. With painting.
Things are regressing when it comes to painting the wheelbarrow ,
I am using acrylic four seasons timber paint, ( new can )
The result is not good , I can't get a smooth finish .
Wood filler and paint on project then sanded with 120 sandpaper , still a shocking finish
The only option might be to use enamel paint , ??? Or something else.
Will this enamel paint do any better to get a smooth finish ?
Painting every piece before glueing the job together may help ....that will take a much longer time to complete the project.
Painting has taken me more time then construction
Well that is my progress ....!
Stuck.
Thank you for the help .
I was tempted to put a pic of the project on the forum
but then I I thought that would cause a laugh ,
so I will continue onward employing your suggestions , I am sure the job will pick up now
Cheers from from a painters nightmare.....Paul
Dunmowin said
07:38 PM Apr 18, 2015
Paul, sending you a PM.
my van said
03:30 PM May 13, 2015
Hi
I am still working on that darn windmill
Very difficult ..... a good challenge
Home again now for a bit.
Cheers from Paul
Dunmowin said
03:40 PM May 13, 2015
Good to hear from you. Did you enjoy your time at Wuruma?
my van said
03:58 PM May 13, 2015
Dunmowin wrote:
Good to hear from you. Did you enjoy your time at Wuruma?
A magic time
I had flat ground
a shade tree
and a large table to work on at Wuruma
Yep got a lot done to the windmill .. but ,
there is much more to do,
Only time will tell if it is a success or a failure. three weeks of solid concentration and crafting .
Am I crazy ... maybe
Dunmowin said
04:01 PM May 13, 2015
my van wrote:
Dunmowin wrote:
Good to hear from you. Did you enjoy your time at Wuruma?
A magic time
I had flat ground
a shade tree
and a large table to work on at Wuruma
Yep got a lot done to the windmill .. but ,
there is much more to do,
Only time will tell if it is a success or a failure. three weeks of solid concentration and crafting .
Am I crazy ... maybe
Yes, we love Wuruma too. Have had a couple of stop overs there.
MrD's model is progressing well too. But it still looks like a pile of wooden springed pegs, with out the springs. Once the wheels go on, it will look more like what it is supposed to look like.
my van said
11:10 AM May 26, 2015
Hi Mr D
I am still working on the confounded windmill
A lot of trial and many errors
The head and tail turns on a turntable , while the drive shaft is moving up and down .
The drive shaft has a 25 mm action up and down .
There is still more work to do on it such as the stand platform etc,
Can I use a spray can to paint the mill ?
Some people say yes some say no
Match stick models are a bit different to ordinary pine wood
Spraying the model with spray paint seams to be an easier option if it will be ok
I can not add a water pump because the shaft action ic too fast for the pump valves to handle ,
Well what do you think?
Cheers from Paul
Ps. the coloured sections of the crank cover are paddle pop sticks ( I wont use them again )
Re matchsticks
Hi thank you
I need to do some thinking about design
I bought some ( Oak colour) wood filler , i will apply it to the next project .
Thanks for the leg up
Cheers from Paul
Mr D
a project , needs a bit more of a tidy up but it soon will be completed
the wheel barrow
Mr D
I am learning , I will apply wood filler one day
The cottage I am doing is a bit more difficult ,
I need to get some tint film for the windows .
The wheelbarrow is 12 to 1 scale
taken from a conventional steel wheelbarrow .
thanking you for your help.
I am now wondering what to try now ?
I want to have at least three models on the make
at the same time .
eyes are large match. strikes.
A bit of variety is a good to keep the imagination alive.
cheers from Paul
Paul, the wheelbarrow is well done. And I love your statue!~looks like one of the statues on Lake Ballard.
Another hint: The more you clamp your matches together when you are gluing them, the less wood filler you will need.
What about a windmill? But don't you go climbing one to get the measurements now!
another lesson:
Mr D predrills a hole through the brass and timber to put a nail into to look like a bolt, then gently pushed the nail into place
I have decided to make another wheel barrow
ha. Ha. Ha because I know now how to make it.
i have thought about a windmill , not sure if I could make one ,
maybe I could have a think about it .
At the moment I am trying to find a way around
glueing sticks -together without getting fingers stuck together
and sticks stuck on my elbow ha. Ha. Ha
cheers from Paul
Here you go, another lesson...
this way you wont get glue on your fingers or elbow.
EDIT: the first picture should be the third one.
If you put your mind to a windmill, you can make a windmill.
-- Edited by Dunmowin on Monday 23rd of March 2015 04:28:27 PM
Mr D I have been searching all types of windmills Aussie type and Dutch type ,
gee ....i have been thinking day and night ,
A whirligig type looks a bit easier
I have to give the making of windmill head (blade setup ) out of sticks a lot more thought,
as you say , it can be done , however i have never found a stick Aussie windmill photo.
Good thing though , I have learnt much about Dutch mills of all kinds.
Cheers and happy sticking from Paul
Now Paul, had never thought of a dutch windmill!
Why not give that a go, give it a lot of thought tho, as to how the blades would work the cogs below, remembering that the dutch windmills usually ground grain. Southern Cross (Aussie one) would be a lot easier, you probably won't find out made of our sticks until you make one your self. Dimension will be the greatest issue!
Having said that, in the garden where we are housesitting is a small one, probably about 4 metres tall. Would you like John to measure it a take some photos for you to work with? You could work out your own scale and take it from there.
Happy sticking! That made Mr D really laugh.
Yes a pic would be encouraging
thank you for the help
.... From Paul
Ok, will be forthcoming in the next day or so.
Starting to warm to the idea of a windmill ,
However it would be a difficult task
happy sticking ... From Paul
Stick windmill is on the way
200mm head
might take me a few weeks
12 to 1 scale for head
tower will be 400 mm high
cheers and happy stick ssticking
from Paul
Hi - when gluing the sticks together how do you get rid of the excess glue that will obviously be there after you have clamped them.
Also I thought I saw a post where you gave a list of what equipment is required to make the models - couldn't find it although must admit didn't look to hard - being lazy. Was there such a post? Thanks
TexasTexas
every worker / sticker. decides for him self
what tooled he needs or wishes to employ.
A piece of rag is used to wipe away excess glpues
what are you making ?
cheers from Paul
If this is what you were looking for, you only had to go back to the first page Texas.
"The buggy's dimensions are 350 mil long, 170 wide, 150 high, wheels outside diameter 130. Scale is 1:12. The cobb and co coach is also 1:12, can't measure in now cos it is in a museum.
Thanks Rob49
Patience comes with being on the road full time, sometimes you just have to stay put for a while, so this keeps Mr D's brain and fingers occupied. He has to work the whole thing out as there are no patterns or instructions. His men's shed consists of a board to glue the match sticks on, various small tools, i.e. dremel, pin drill, small hammer, aquadhere, very sharp knife, sand paper, soldering iron, oh, of course, matchsticks, and paint.
Pick a subject, photo graph and measure it, divide each measurement by 12 and start on one section, i.e. the draw bar, or the base of the cart, and just build on. Just copy the photos. Wheels (yes they are also made out of match sticks) are the biggest challenge (our secret for the time being) All the metal work is brass that can be soldered.
Simple exercise might be an out door dunny, or an old water tank. Not hard, just need to put it all together.
Next challenge might be a timber jinker, or a furphy, just have to find one to photograph."
Cheers,
Sheba.
Whooops, got so excited about packing up and moving again, forgot to measure the windmill. Paul, hope you are coping OK with your latest model.
hi Texas, if you hae to get rid of excess glue, you are obviously using too much. See our instructions on how to dip the match in a blob of glue - just sort of wipe it through the glue
I am slowing a bit with the models trying to finish off
wheelbarrow #2 and a cottage however windmill is on the way .
Cheers from Paul
Paul, there is no race. Take your time with each model and finish is completely before moving on.
Hope you had a great Easter.
Too much gardening to do and camping gear mtce ,
Nearly finished #2 wheel barrow, windmill is a bit slow
but I will get more time when I get back out camping again next week ay.
I do hope your project is getting along ok
Cheers from Paul
Hi Mr D
I would be very thankful it I could get help. With painting.
Things are regressing when it comes to painting the wheelbarrow ,
I am using acrylic four seasons timber paint, ( new can )
The result is not good , I can't get a smooth finish .
Wood filler and paint on project then sanded with 120 sandpaper , still a shocking finish
The only option might be to use enamel paint , ??? Or something else.
Will this enamel paint do any better to get a smooth finish ?
Painting every piece before glueing the job together may help ....that will take a much longer time to complete the project.
Painting has taken me more time then construction
Well that is my progress ....!
Stuck.
Hi Paul, hope I can help.
Don't use enamel, because it is difficult to sand between coats, its messy, and needs more prep.
I use water based paint, usually from Bunnings they have a great range of sample pots that are cheap.
After the main coats of water based first and second coats, I then highlight with different colours, this time I do use enamel, Little tins model paint from the toy shop, $3 each, I prefer Matt....
I don't use wood filler at all, because it will fall out as the timber dries in a few years.
If you are not happy with the finish, sand it back and give another coat of primer. Should not need to use undercoat when using water based paints. For finishing use 280 or 320...as 120 is way to rough for finishing.
I don't recommend painting sections then glue together. as timber glue wont hold on the paint
When painting, carry plenty of paint on your brush, but no dribbles or runs.
don't over work the paint, as you will put brush lines in it as it dries.
the paint should be wet as it goes on, and stop brushing before it loses its wetness.
Don't paint in a sunny window, as the paint will dry to quick in the sun light.
Thank you for the help .
I was tempted to put a pic of the project on the forum
but then I I thought that would cause a laugh ,
so I will continue onward employing your suggestions , I am sure the job will pick up now
Cheers from from a painters nightmare.....Paul
Paul, sending you a PM.
Hi
I am still working on that darn windmill
Very difficult ..... a good challenge
Home again now for a bit.
Cheers from Paul
Good to hear from you. Did you enjoy your time at Wuruma?
A magic time
I had flat ground
a shade tree
and a large table to work on at Wuruma
Yep got a lot done to the windmill .. but ,
there is much more to do,
Only time will tell if it is a success or a failure. three weeks of solid concentration and crafting .
Am I crazy ... maybe
Yes, we love Wuruma too. Have had a couple of stop overs there.
MrD's model is progressing well too. But it still looks like a pile of wooden springed pegs, with out the springs. Once the wheels go on, it will look more like what it is supposed to look like.
Hi Mr D
I am still working on the confounded windmill
A lot of trial and many errors
The head and tail turns on a turntable , while the drive shaft is moving up and down .
The drive shaft has a 25 mm action up and down .
There is still more work to do on it such as the stand platform etc,
Can I use a spray can to paint the mill ?
Some people say yes some say no
Match stick models are a bit different to ordinary pine wood
Spraying the model with spray paint seams to be an easier option if it will be ok
I can not add a water pump because the shaft action ic too fast for the pump valves to handle ,
Well what do you think?
Cheers from Paul
Ps. the coloured sections of the crank cover are paddle pop sticks ( I wont use them again )
