I wonder if his missus/s would agree with him though?
I don't think we have any truly (full time) nomadic indigenous natives roaming the deserts etc now have we? I assume you mean his missus/s would prefer the supermarkets ?
Vic41 said
06:53 PM Dec 26, 2013
dorian wrote:
I wonder if Prof Zola has actually conducted any kind of survey to assess the demand, otherwise he may be asking the community to cater for a non-existent need. In fact the best people to ask would be the immigrants themselves. How many immigrants who have built their own homes in this country have chosen a squat toilet over a sit-down? Or perhaps a more appropriate question would be, how many of these immigrants would have chosen a squat had one been available, and at an affordable price? Remember, these people would have been brought up using squat toilets, so they would have had a natural preference for them.
Perhaps another question might be, should we treat immigrants the same as tourists and students? The former come to Australia to live, so they should perhaps be prepared to accept the status quo, at least until they've been here a while. OTOH, tourists and students are paying visitors, so it would be good business sense to make them feel welcome. That said, my research leads me to believe that affluent people in Asian societies (eg India) are opting for sit-down toilets, and since most paying visitors would probably come from wealthy backgrounds, then it stands to reason that squats wouldn't be too popular amongst them. But that's something that a survey could easily determine.
As for the "accidents" alluded to by Prof Zola, they raise two questions. The first is, what kind of student would be so stupid as to be unable to work out how to use our toilets? The second is, if these disgusting acts were deliberate, then why should we even allow these kind of people into the country, let alone cater for their special needs?
Some interesting points Dorian, mind you there are those among us that use the standard type toilets in public places that are pretty disgusting too , such as not flushing the toilets, pee and poo on the floor and wall and not washing their hands afterwards.
Legendts said
06:59 PM Dec 26, 2013
Cloak wrote:
This is Australia, do it our way or bugger off.
I'm over pandering to other cultures.
Merry christmas everyone....
Cheers.
My thoughts exactly! Too much PC in the world today.
03_troopy said
08:19 AM Dec 27, 2013
Then buy a Mac
oldbobsbus said
08:28 AM Dec 27, 2013
03_troopy wrote:
When we lived in Malaysia in the early 80's, it was a fact that some Aussies did the same thing (commonly called the Kangaroo Squat) over there, so as not come in contact with the seat. But even worse than that, a phenomenom known as the "Phantom Crapper" exists in some work places. Depositing said matter on the floor instead of in the toilet. We had this happen recently at our workplace which is definitely not multicultural, and quite a few years back when I was still in the RAAF at one of the bases, again a non-multicultural situation.
Back in the late 50's I was stationed at Point Cook, our section shared a toilet block with a couple of other sections..
Anyway our Sargent went out there and discovered someone had dropped a darkie on the floor so instead of coming in and telling one of the young Airmen to go and clean it up he grabbed the gear himself and went out and cleaned up...
When one of the Corporals asked him why he said "To be a good leader you should never ask anyone to do something you wouldn't do yourself"..
I will never forget that and have always tried to do the same..
GaryKelly said
08:39 AM Dec 27, 2013
Funny innit. I spent years doing my morning patrol each day, wearing a plastic bag on one hand like a glove, and collecting my dog's "darkies". Didn't bother me a bit. But ask me to do it for someone else's dog and it's a different story. As to human "darkies", no way, Jose.
Nelly said
09:58 AM Dec 27, 2013
Went on a bus trip once and had a toilet break and it was unbelievable how these asian women (that were on the bus) pushed everyone else out of the road to get to the loos first - then when they were finished and everyone else had their turn it was absolutely disgusting - why should we have to put up with that sort of behaviour.
NeilandRaine said
10:38 AM Dec 27, 2013
Seeing as how the subject got onto culture at one stage........... I have native Australian blood in my family and I can guarantee I would rather be eating at a BBQ with a few beers than eating witchety grubs and drinking from a creek at Christmas, or any other time. We have been happy for over 200 years the way things are, we even fought a war so that we wouldn't have to give it all up to the Japanese (They got us in the end, they bought us) The problem is it isn't so much the immigrants, but the do gooders and snivel libiterians that insist they know what is best and what we should do.
And I would rather sit on porcelain than squat over a hole in the ground.
-- Edited by NeilandRaine on Friday 27th of December 2013 10:40:28 AM
Seeing as how the subject got onto culture at one stage........... I have native Australian blood in my family and I can guarantee I would rather be eating at a BBQ with a few beers than eating witchety grubs and drinking from a creek at Christmas, or any other time. We have been happy for over 200 years the way things are, we even fought a war so that we wouldn't have to give it all up to the Japanese (They got us in the end, they bought us) The problem is it isn't so much the immigrants, but the do gooders and snivel libiterians that insist they know what is best and what we should do.
And I would rather sit on porcelain than squat over a hole in the ground.
-- Edited by NeilandRaine on Friday 27th of December 2013 10:40:28 AM
Hear Hear. Good onya mate and our language gone to pot too....strine is nearly dead as is sayings. Was in hospital this year and when giving my old tablet list to the chemist, apologized as it as it had so many changes it looked like a Kickapoo ticket (Chinese lottery ticket). She looked at me as if I was mad....an Ozzie too.
(Wasn't going to buy into this but what the hell)
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Friday 27th of December 2013 12:51:46 PM
03_troopy said
01:58 PM Dec 27, 2013
Strine is only another variant of the English language that was derived from multicultural scources anyway. And language is dynamic in that it changes to meet current needs. New words are added and out of date ones deleted. Even the meanings and usage of old words change as well.
Vic41 said
04:03 PM Dec 27, 2013
03_troopy wrote:
Strine is only another variant of the English language that was derived from multicultural scources anyway. And language is dynamic in that it changes to meet current needs. New words are added and out of date ones deleted. Even the meanings and usage of old words change as well.
Yes, like "gay" etc. A lot of early Australian Strine was from the English C.o.c.k.ney slang, although some were strictly coined in Oz also.
-- Edited by Vic41 on Saturday 28th of December 2013 12:09:06 PM
03_troopy said
11:13 AM Dec 28, 2013
yes Vic, although that example didn't immediately spring to mind.. LOL. Actually I was using the wrong word in "Strine" wasn't I.. I was talking more about what a lot of people refer to as speaking Australian, as opposed to the slang.
i just had another thought, what we we eat after a night out on the grog if we didn't have multicultural food? get a bit sick of maggot bags and dead horse.
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Saturday 28th of December 2013 11:14:17 AM
Vic41 said
12:08 PM Dec 28, 2013
Love the diversity of food multiculturalism has introduced to Oz, among those who were already here.
Makes me sound old (and that is right) when I was a kid, my friend's Dad had the only Chinese restaurant in Perth, complete with pretty Chinese waitresses, he was Australian and an ex RAAF Chef and he was cooking it out the back in the kitchen, but everyone thought they were getting the genuine thing. Things are different today though.
Yes "Strine" has changed as all languages do over the years especially with all the technology around today. I still say "blokes" instead of "Guys" (although today that means males and females the way it is used) among other older sayings.
Ontos45 said
12:56 PM Dec 28, 2013
03_troopy wrote:
yes Vic, although that example didn't immediately spring to mind.. LOL. Actually I was using the wrong word in "Strine" wasn't I.. I was talking more about what a lot of people refer to as speaking Australian, as opposed to the slang.
i just had another thought, what we we eat after a night out on the grog if we didn't have multicultural food? get a bit sick of maggot bags and dead horse.
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Saturday 28th of December 2013 11:14:17 AM
The only difference in a night on the grog is that carrots are replaced by tabouli in the technicolour yawn.
As far as multicultural food goes nothing replaces meat and 2 veg. for me. European and Chinese food as well as curries from India (brought back in the 1800's by those serving on the frontier) available here long time before Whitlam and this multicultural gig.
I lived near (Greenacre) Lakemba, Sydney during the Iranian hostage crises and saw members of our multicultural society crying out - death to Americans- police would not break it up because all were women in full head to ankle burka's. Lakemba Mosque is largest outside of Arabia and loud speakers called faithful to prayer 5 times a day, drove you mad. My dad's family came here from Germany in 1800's (Sth. Aust.), were interned during WW1 and then served for Ozz during WW2. earned their right to call Australia home. Latest immigrants expect to get all the rights, both civil and social that our forefathers and unions fought successive Govt. for and then worry more about what's happening in their homeland other than what's happening here. Not against immigration, but, let them come here legally and let them leave their squabbles where they came from and worry more about advancing this great country.
I don't think we have any truly (full time) nomadic indigenous natives roaming the deserts etc now have we? I assume you mean his missus/s would prefer the supermarkets ?
Some interesting points Dorian, mind you there are those among us that use the standard type toilets in public places that are pretty disgusting too , such as not flushing the toilets, pee and poo on the floor and wall and not washing their hands afterwards.
My thoughts exactly! Too much PC in the world today.
Back in the late 50's I was stationed at Point Cook, our section shared a toilet block with a couple of other sections..
Anyway our Sargent went out there and discovered someone had dropped a darkie on the floor so instead of coming in and telling one of the young Airmen to go and clean it up he grabbed the gear himself and went out and cleaned up...
When one of the Corporals asked him why he said "To be a good leader you should never ask anyone to do something you wouldn't do yourself"..
I will never forget that and have always tried to do the same..
Seeing as how the subject got onto culture at one stage........... I have native Australian blood in my family and I can guarantee I would rather be eating at a BBQ with a few beers than eating witchety grubs and drinking from a creek at Christmas, or any other time.
We have been happy for over 200 years the way things are, we even fought a war so that we wouldn't have to give it all up to the Japanese (They got us in the end, they bought us) The problem is it isn't so much the immigrants, but the do gooders and snivel libiterians that insist they know what is best and what we should do.
And I would rather sit on porcelain than squat over a hole in the ground.
-- Edited by NeilandRaine on Friday 27th of December 2013 10:40:28 AM
Hear Hear. Good onya mate and our language gone to pot too....strine is nearly dead as is sayings. Was in hospital this year and when giving my old tablet list to the chemist, apologized as it as it had so many changes it looked like a Kickapoo ticket (Chinese lottery ticket). She looked at me as if I was mad....an Ozzie too.
(Wasn't going to buy into this but what the hell)
-- Edited by Ontos45 on Friday 27th of December 2013 12:51:46 PM
Yes, like "gay" etc. A lot of early Australian Strine was from the English C.o.c.k.ney slang, although some were strictly coined in Oz also.
-- Edited by Vic41 on Saturday 28th of December 2013 12:09:06 PM
yes Vic, although that example didn't immediately spring to mind.. LOL. Actually I was using the wrong word in "Strine" wasn't I.. I was talking more about what a lot of people refer to as speaking Australian, as opposed to the slang.
i just had another thought, what we we eat after a night out on the grog if we didn't have multicultural food? get a bit sick of maggot bags and dead horse.
-- Edited by 03_troopy on Saturday 28th of December 2013 11:14:17 AM
Love the diversity of food multiculturalism has introduced to Oz, among those who were already here.
Makes me sound old (and that is right) when I was a kid, my friend's Dad had the only Chinese restaurant in Perth, complete with pretty Chinese waitresses, he was Australian and an ex RAAF Chef and he was cooking it out the back in the kitchen, but everyone thought they were getting the genuine thing. Things are different today though.
Yes "Strine" has changed as all languages do over the years especially with all the technology around today. I still say "blokes" instead of "Guys" (although today that means males and females the way it is used) among other older sayings.
The only difference in a night on the grog is that carrots are replaced by tabouli in the technicolour yawn.
As far as multicultural food goes nothing replaces meat and 2 veg. for me. European and Chinese food as well as curries from India (brought back in the 1800's by those serving on the frontier) available here long time before Whitlam and this multicultural gig.
I lived near (Greenacre) Lakemba, Sydney during the Iranian hostage crises and saw members of our multicultural society crying out - death to Americans- police would not break it up because all were women in full head to ankle burka's. Lakemba Mosque is largest outside of Arabia and loud speakers called faithful to prayer 5 times a day, drove you mad. My dad's family came here from Germany in 1800's (Sth. Aust.), were interned during WW1 and then served for Ozz during WW2. earned their right to call Australia home. Latest immigrants expect to get all the rights, both civil and social that our forefathers and unions fought successive Govt. for and then worry more about what's happening in their homeland other than what's happening here. Not against immigration, but, let them come here legally and let them leave their squabbles where they came from and worry more about advancing this great country.