I have noticed ants in and around my windows and in the floor through minor gaps
. Im using ant rid inside where possible and ant sand outside around jockey wheel and tyres. Appreciate your help. I was thinking about using an insect bomb but not sure if it could affect the cushion material etc. your thoughts
Thanks and regards
Ron
Are We Lost said
01:42 PM Apr 4, 2023
I doubt that insect bombs would do any harm to your cushions etc, but some believe everything should be washed/washed down afterwards to get rid of the chemical residue. I do for eating utensils and cover pillows but don't worry otherwise.
However it is unlikely to help much with ants. Back at the nest there is a ready supply of eggs to replace the killed worker ants. If the ants go with you when you travel that probably means the nest is onboard. Ant baits are the solution. The poison gets taken back to the nest, and when the queen eats this and dies the nest dies as well.
Some ants eat sugar and some eat protein (meat). The sugar ones are easier because the common Ant rid solutions containing borax are readily scavenged. Meat eaters are a bit harder because they ignore Ant rid. For those I have had success with the gel treatments.
Mike Harding said
02:02 PM Apr 4, 2023
OP: you may find this thread works better in the General section?
Are We Lost wrote:
Some ants eat sugar and some eat protein (meat). The sugar ones are easier because the common Ant rid solutions containing borax are readily scavenged. Meat eaters are a bit harder because they ignore Ant rid. For those I have had success with the gel treatments.
Please expand upon this; I have always used AntRid which has worked well but I've no idea what I'd do if it didn't!
Dougwe said
03:16 PM Apr 4, 2023
I use a flea bomb. They work on nearly all creepy crawlies. I usually do every 3-4 months. I only just did it two days ago as I have seen a lot of spiders of various sizes in the aluminium tent where I am set up. Creepy crawlies and I don't mix.
After 2 hours I went in and opened windows and door and there were dead bodies everywhere. I haven't seen any little critters since.
Make sure you turn power and gas off first and close anything you don't want the spray entering. I also make sure the overhead cupboard by 12v gauges and other switches are is closed. OH! Take the the smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors out side as well or you will set them off.
After using the bombs for nearly 9 years the fabric seats and woodwork all seem fine.
Are We Lost said
03:33 PM Apr 4, 2023
Mike Harding wrote:
OP: you may find this thread works better in the General section?
Are We Lost wrote:
Some ants eat sugar and some eat protein (meat). The sugar ones are easier because the common Ant rid solutions containing borax are readily scavenged. Meat eaters are a bit harder because they ignore Ant rid. For those I have had success with the gel treatments.
Please expand upon this; I have always used AntRid which has worked well but I've no idea what I'd do if it didn't!
You inspired me to learn a bit more.
Sugar ants and protein (or grease) ants are just the commonly used names. Any ant colony may change the food type they seek as the need for the colony changes. Here is a brief explanation (an advertisement) Protein or sugar ants? or How to make a protein ant bait
Here is another one. Ants not eating the bait. It includes an interesting comment on Argentine ants driving out competition by eating them then turning to a more common diet.
At home, I get repeat visits of protein ants, maybe once every year or so, and they just won't touch Antrid. But leave a piece of fatty meat on the benchtop and they are all over it. The links above suggest a peanut butter mix but even that has only been partly successful for me. I have also tried a drop of Antrid on a piece of meat with partial success. But getting some gel bait does the trick.
The active ingredient is Indoxacarb, while Borax is the ingredient in Antrid. Apart from ingesting it, just contact with it is enough to do the job.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 4th of April 2023 03:36:55 PM
Possum3 said
05:03 PM Apr 4, 2023
Beware insect bombs can cause explosion if appliances are not turned off and ensure no naked flames.
Small black ants are a sign of moisture being present - get a cheap moisture meter at Bunnings and check around all joins in floor and ceiling if ensuite fitted thoroughly check all corners.
Ant rid will eradicate black ants - best having the little bait stations - syrup can be a bit messy.
Spraying "Crawly" insect spray around stabilising feet and jockey wheel/jack is a good idea to prevent them coming in.
Do not park under trees with small branches and leaves resting on top or sides of van.
Triggy said
06:38 PM Apr 4, 2023
Are We Lost wrote:
Some ants eat sugar and some eat protein (meat). The sugar ones are easier because the common Ant rid solutions containing borax are readily scavenged. Meat eaters are a bit harder because they ignore Ant rid. For those I have had success with the gel treatments.
This is what to use for protein ants it has FIPRONIL as the active constituent
-- Edited by Triggy on Tuesday 4th of April 2023 06:47:40 PM
Thanks everyone for your input
I may not have explained it that well but these ants are inside the walls around the window frames
I havent tried the baits but will asap
Thanks again
Ron
Possum3 said
11:34 AM Apr 5, 2023
Ronzo wrote:
these ants are inside the walls around the window frames I havent tried the baits but will asap Thanks again Ron.
A good indicator of moisture being present - you should check with moisture meter and reseal around the windows (after eradicating ants).
Mike Harding said
01:22 PM Apr 5, 2023
Thanks AreWeLost and others. I feel more prepared now if the AntRid doesn't work.
PS. AntRid seems to have a shelf life; I once used some which was five years of more old and the ants ignored it, bought some new stuff and the ants loved it :)
KJB said
01:30 PM Apr 5, 2023
Are We Lost wrote:
I doubt that insect bombs would do any harm to your cushions etc, but some believe everything should be washed/washed down afterwards to get rid of the chemical residue. I do for eating utensils and cover pillows but don't worry otherwise.
However it is unlikely to help much with ants. Back at the nest there is a ready supply of eggs to replace the killed worker ants. If the ants go with you when you travel that probably means the nest is onboard. Ant baits are the solution. The poison gets taken back to the nest, and when the queen eats this and dies the nest dies as well.
Some ants eat sugar and some eat protein (meat). The sugar ones are easier because the common Ant rid solutions containing borax are readily scavenged. Meat eaters are a bit harder because they ignore Ant rid. For those I have had success with the gel treatments.
Spray them with white paint ....no more black ants...! KB
Mike Harding said
02:27 PM Apr 5, 2023
KJB wrote:
Spray them with white paint ....no more black ants...! KB
Cuppa's going to be after you!
deverall11 said
03:32 PM Apr 5, 2023
I was introduced to a product called SOLFAC DUO by a gentleman in a produce store (farming equipment). I my mind this is a heavy duty product that will
get rid of anything that crawls. If you are after an almost permanent solution, this is the product. I use it around the house etc, albeit
have NOT used it inside. Although I do believe it would be ok, maybe a caravan might be a bit small.
When I say almost, when it rains, some of it washed away even though it has a good residual property. Now you may feel
it is a bit expensive at around $70 for 250ml, however if administered as per instructions it is very economical given its
performance. Ever since I started using this, crawling insects are a thing of the past.
Up to you, but this is the one. Makes a joke out of AntRid.
littledick said
03:37 PM Apr 5, 2023
Selleys Talon Gel. We use it for house and van. Just a few drops in their path should do the trick.
Had the same problem a few weeks ago at Narooma, didn't have the Gel then just used Raid spray whenever we saw them.
Didn't bring any ants home with us that I could see.
Dick.
KJB said
03:40 PM Apr 5, 2023
deverall11 wrote:
I was introduced to a product called SOLFAC DUO by a gentleman in a produce store (farming equipment). I my mind this is a heavy duty product that will get rid of anything that crawls. If you are after an almost permanent solution, this is the product. I use it around the house etc, albeit have NOT used it inside. Although I do believe it would be ok, maybe a caravan might be a bit small. When I say almost, when it rains, some of it washed away even though it has a good residual property. Now you may feel it is a bit expensive at around $70 for 250ml, however if administered as per instructions it is very economical given its performance. Ever since I started using this, crawling insects are a thing of the past. Up to you, but this is the one. Makes a joke out of AntRid.
Top product - good value, have used it for years. Residual property excellent for spider/web control over a long period . KB
Redjo said
04:10 PM Apr 5, 2023
Hi everyone;
Just a comment on getting rid of ants in RV's, I whole heartedly agree with possum3 on being cautious if considering using aerosol sprays; we witnessed a motor home explode into flames after the owner used a spray can to spray ants in his motorhome it burnt to the ground in minutes and also wiped out another brand new caravan beside it; the owner suffered severe burns requiring a trip to the hospital.
Unfortunately he forgot about the gas pilot light on his fridge which caused a massive explosion.( he was free camping).
Regards Redjo
RickJ said
05:07 PM Apr 5, 2023
Redjo wrote:
Hi everyone; Just a comment on getting rid of ants in RV's, I whole heartedly agree with possum3 on being cautious if considering using aerosol sprays; we witnessed a motor home explode into flames after the owner used a spray can to spray ants in his motorhome it burnt to the ground in minutes and also wiped out another brand new caravan beside it; the owner suffered severe burns requiring a trip to the hospital.
Unfortunately he forgot about the gas pilot light on his fridge which caused a massive explosion.( he was free camping).
Regards Redjo
A very good point Redjo,
There has been many a restaurant suffer a similar fate when the owner has decided to use aerosol type treatments for insect health pests.
I have read some very good information on this forum when reading back through some very old posts.
The search function leaves a bit to be desired so finding previous good and accurate information can be challenging at times.
-- Edited by RickJ on Wednesday 5th of April 2023 05:07:42 PM
Craig1 said
08:25 PM Apr 5, 2023
x 2 for sofac duo, a quick read of instructions, can be used inside, but with lots of precautions, exemptions.
I have always used talcum powder to get rid of ants. The theory is that to an ant, the powder is like gravel in the exoskeleton and they hate it. It has never failed me yet to get rid of ants. My wife prefers to use ant-rid or similar so between the two of us we are seldom troubled by ants.
I have found the ants "Rid ant" does not work on are deterred by spaying water with a bit of peppermint oil in it. Doesn't kill them so assume they go to somewhere else.
Neil
Dick0 said
02:09 PM Apr 7, 2023
Ronzo wrote:
I have noticed ants in and around my windows and in the floor through minor gaps . Im using ant rid inside where possible and ant sand outside around jockey wheel and tyres. Appreciate your help. I was thinking about using an insect bomb but not sure if it could affect the cushion material etc. your thoughts Thanks and regards Ron
Ant dust from Bunnings works a treat. Squirt powder outside where the ant trail(s) is. Ants disappear within minutes. Check around van regularly for ant trails and nests nearby.
Never been successful with AntRid. The ant dust also got rid of all ants and nests around my home and works a treat when camping.
Ronzo said
07:57 AM Apr 8, 2023
Ive tried talon, baits and ant rid and activity has gone
Im hoping that the worker ants have taken the poison back to the nest
Will monitor over coming days
Thanks everyone for your suggestions
Ron
Cupie said
01:26 PM Apr 8, 2023
littledick wrote:
Selleys Talon Gel. We use it for house and van. Just a few drops in their path should do the trick.
Had the same problem a few weeks ago at Narooma, didn't have the Gel then just used Raid spray whenever we saw them.
Didn't bring any ants home with us that I could see.
Dick.
We too have had good results with Talon Gel from WW.
I usually leave a couple of inverted jar lids filled with some borax & caster sugar, inside the van kitchen cupboards & in the fridge enclosure.
Ronzo said
09:23 AM Apr 22, 2023
Its been nearly 2 weeks now and having used talon syringe product, antrid liquid, baits and combat antrid strips - Ive seen many dead ants . Monitoring daily and yesterday only two ants walking around
Im hoping this is nearing the end of the problem. From now on will always keep baits stashed in various corners of my van especially if we dont use it for a few months and will keep an eye on activity around the van
Thanks everyone for your advice- it was v helpful and worked
craigcelaya said
06:09 AM May 31, 2024
To get rid of black ants in your van, start by thoroughly cleaning to remove any food crumbs and spills. Seal any small gaps where ants might be entering. Place ant bait stations inside to attract and kill ants, and use ant barrier sprays around the tires and entry points outside. Avoid using an insect bomb inside the van, as it can damage the cushions and other materials. Regularly check and reapply treatments as needed.
Dick0 said
10:14 AM May 31, 2024
craigcelaya wrote:
To get rid of black ants in your van, start by thoroughly cleaning to remove any food crumbs and spills. Seal any small gaps where ants might be entering. Place ant bait stations inside to attract and kill ants, and use ant barrier sprays around the tires and entry points outside. Avoid using an insect bomb inside the van, as it can damage the cushions and other materials. Regularly check and reapply treatments as needed.
I have tried plenty of products over the years and none have worked except for Ant Dust from Bunnings.
Don't wait for the ants to find their way into the van. Get them before they annoy you.
When you first park up look around to see if there are any ant trails about, then back track the trail to the main nest source and any other nest entry points nearby.
Scatter the dust around these points and the ants will walk the dust into the nest and within a short time there will be no ants around and most ants in the nest will die.
Eventually the Queen will die and all ants will be exterminated.
Any new visible trails thereafter from other nests scatter ant dust around the trail.
ALWAYS works for me anywhere in OZ.
I use the same procedure at my home and have not had the slightest ant problem since using Ant Dust.
It is cheap and most effective.
No, I don't have shares in Bunnings!
Whenarewethere said
10:38 AM May 31, 2024
Ant dust is also great for cockroaches
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Friday 31st of May 2024 10:40:57 AM
Greg 1 said
01:05 PM May 31, 2024
Talon ant gel available at Woolies.
Comes in a syringe and a small dob in the upper corners of the van works a treat.
We have found it is the only thing that seems to work on the small black ants consistently.
Easily applied, no mess and one syringe lasts for quite a few doses as you only need a small dob.
We keep some in the van at all times.
However it is unlikely to help much with ants. Back at the nest there is a ready supply of eggs to replace the killed worker ants. If the ants go with you when you travel that probably means the nest is onboard. Ant baits are the solution. The poison gets taken back to the nest, and when the queen eats this and dies the nest dies as well.
Some ants eat sugar and some eat protein (meat). The sugar ones are easier because the common Ant rid solutions containing borax are readily scavenged. Meat eaters are a bit harder because they ignore Ant rid. For those I have had success with the gel treatments.
Please expand upon this; I have always used AntRid which has worked well but I've no idea what I'd do if it didn't!
After 2 hours I went in and opened windows and door and there were dead bodies everywhere. I haven't seen any little critters since.
Make sure you turn power and gas off first and close anything you don't want the spray entering. I also make sure the overhead cupboard by 12v gauges and other switches are is closed. OH! Take the the smoke and Carbon Monoxide detectors out side as well or you will set them off.
After using the bombs for nearly 9 years the fabric seats and woodwork all seem fine.
You inspired me to learn a bit more.
Sugar ants and protein (or grease) ants are just the commonly used names. Any ant colony may change the food type they seek as the need for the colony changes. Here is a brief explanation (an advertisement) Protein or sugar ants? or How to make a protein ant bait
Here is another one. Ants not eating the bait. It includes an interesting comment on Argentine ants driving out competition by eating them then turning to a more common diet.
At home, I get repeat visits of protein ants, maybe once every year or so, and they just won't touch Antrid. But leave a piece of fatty meat on the benchtop and they are all over it. The links above suggest a peanut butter mix but even that has only been partly successful for me. I have also tried a drop of Antrid on a piece of meat with partial success. But getting some gel bait does the trick.
Yates gel ant bait.
The active ingredient is Indoxacarb, while Borax is the ingredient in Antrid. Apart from ingesting it, just contact with it is enough to do the job.
-- Edited by Are We Lost on Tuesday 4th of April 2023 03:36:55 PM
Small black ants are a sign of moisture being present - get a cheap moisture meter at Bunnings and check around all joins in floor and ceiling if ensuite fitted thoroughly check all corners.
Ant rid will eradicate black ants - best having the little bait stations - syrup can be a bit messy.
Spraying "Crawly" insect spray around stabilising feet and jockey wheel/jack is a good idea to prevent them coming in.
Do not park under trees with small branches and leaves resting on top or sides of van.
This is what to use for protein ants it has FIPRONIL as the active constituent
-- Edited by Triggy on Tuesday 4th of April 2023 06:47:40 PM
A good indicator of moisture being present - you should check with moisture meter and reseal around the windows (after eradicating ants).
Thanks AreWeLost and others. I feel more prepared now if the AntRid doesn't work.
PS. AntRid seems to have a shelf life; I once used some which was five years of more old and the ants ignored it, bought some new stuff and the ants loved it :)
Spray them with white paint ....no more black ants...! KB
Cuppa's going to be after you!
get rid of anything that crawls. If you are after an almost permanent solution, this is the product. I use it around the house etc, albeit
have NOT used it inside. Although I do believe it would be ok, maybe a caravan might be a bit small.
When I say almost, when it rains, some of it washed away even though it has a good residual property. Now you may feel
it is a bit expensive at around $70 for 250ml, however if administered as per instructions it is very economical given its
performance. Ever since I started using this, crawling insects are a thing of the past.
Up to you, but this is the one. Makes a joke out of AntRid.
Selleys Talon Gel. We use it for house and van. Just a few drops in their path should do the trick.
Had the same problem a few weeks ago at Narooma, didn't have the Gel then just used Raid spray whenever we saw them.
Didn't bring any ants home with us that I could see.
Dick.
Top product - good value, have used it for years. Residual property excellent for spider/web control over a long period . KB
Just a comment on getting rid of ants in RV's, I whole heartedly agree with possum3 on being cautious if considering using aerosol sprays; we witnessed a motor home explode into flames after the owner used a spray can to spray ants in his motorhome it burnt to the ground in minutes and also wiped out another brand new caravan beside it; the owner suffered severe burns requiring a trip to the hospital.
Unfortunately he forgot about the gas pilot light on his fridge which caused a massive explosion.( he was free camping).
Regards Redjo
A very good point Redjo,
There has been many a restaurant suffer a similar fate when the owner has decided to use aerosol type treatments for insect health pests.
I have read some very good information on this forum when reading back through some very old posts.
The search function leaves a bit to be desired so finding previous good and accurate information can be challenging at times.
-- Edited by RickJ on Wednesday 5th of April 2023 05:07:42 PM
Have used this with good results : https://www.yates.com.au/talon-5g-ant-killer-gel/
I have found the ants "Rid ant" does not work on are deterred by spaying water with a bit of peppermint oil in it. Doesn't kill them so assume they go to somewhere else.
Neil
Ant dust from Bunnings works a treat. Squirt powder outside where the ant trail(s) is. Ants disappear within minutes. Check around van regularly for ant trails and nests nearby.
Never been successful with AntRid. The ant dust also got rid of all ants and nests around my home and works a treat when camping.
We too have had good results with Talon Gel from WW.
I usually leave a couple of inverted jar lids filled with some borax & caster sugar, inside the van kitchen cupboards & in the fridge enclosure.
I have tried plenty of products over the years and none have worked except for Ant Dust from Bunnings.
Don't wait for the ants to find their way into the van. Get them before they annoy you.
When you first park up look around to see if there are any ant trails about, then back track the trail to the main nest source and any other nest entry points nearby.
Scatter the dust around these points and the ants will walk the dust into the nest and within a short time there will be no ants around and most ants in the nest will die.
Eventually the Queen will die and all ants will be exterminated.
Any new visible trails thereafter from other nests scatter ant dust around the trail.
ALWAYS works for me anywhere in OZ.
I use the same procedure at my home and have not had the slightest ant problem since using Ant Dust.
It is cheap and most effective.
No, I don't have shares in Bunnings!
Ant dust is also great for cockroaches
-- Edited by Whenarewethere on Friday 31st of May 2024 10:40:57 AM