Just thought I would show everyone the dashboard of my Nissan Patrol, do you think it is too cluttered?
Big Sat Nav, Caravan reversing camera monitor, Mobile phone mount, Quad band Amateur Radio, UHF C.B. Radio, Am FM radio with bluetooth and H.D. Dash cam.
Clutter is not the problem .........Distraction while driving should be the most concerning aspect.......
Rob Driver said
11:08 AM Jul 19, 2021
VK2FJW wrote:
Just thought I would show everyone the dashboard of my Nissan Patrol, do you think it is too cluttered?
Big Sat Nav, Caravan reversing camera monitor, Mobile phone mount, Quad band Amateur Radio, UHF C.B. Radio, Am FM radio with bluetooth and H.D. Dash cam.
Yes,
Many Sat Nav GPS units can be configured as a viewing monitor.
If this is the case with your unit you may want to connect your reversing camera through that screen and eliminate having the monitor for the camera.
That might save you a bit of clutter on the dash.
When I put my car in for service at a pedantic Toyota dealer they removed my GPS before they would drive it.
As such I dont use that dealer any more.
Possum3 said
11:14 AM Jul 19, 2021
It is a bit busy - I'm a bit too OCD to have all those wires hanging every where, but as long a vision isn't impaired I believe it would be OK.
Road Rules 2014 (NSW) r 297 states that a driver must not drive if they do not have complete control of the vehicle. Conduct such as eating or listening to music while driving can become distractions resulting in loss of control. When it comes to roadside offences, Police have wide discretionary powers.
VK2FJW said
08:25 AM Jul 20, 2021
I recently worked with a man that was fined for not having proper control!
Drinking a cup of coffee and driving with 1 hand!
AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES - REG 297
Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
(1) A driver must not drive a vehicle unless the driver has proper control of the vehicle.
Possum3 said
11:03 AM Jul 20, 2021
dogbox wrote:
is the suicide knob on steering wheel legal?
It is not legal to drive using one hand except for changing gear and other necessary functions. Which means turning the wheel with one hand is not legal here.
BUT ( there is always a but ) these devices are compulsory for a handicapped person where one arm is not functional. They have to undergo a special licence test to prove that they can drive safely and proficiently like this.
Whenarewethere said
01:29 PM Jul 20, 2021
drtooheys wrote:
In my personal opinion, it looks sh!thouse. But thats just my opinion.
I agree with the technical term!
I have added a lot of things to my car but have made them all to be as invisible as possible. Hard wired TPMS. Neodymium magnet on dashboard to remove GPS as it's mostly not needed, also so there is no rubbish on the windscreen. Dashcams are above sun visor position. It's not difficult to have everything under control.
Dick0 said
01:34 PM Jul 23, 2021
If you are happy with your setup and it helps you achieve a safe driving environment, then I would keep it as is.
Roachie said
03:32 PM Jul 25, 2021
Looks okay to me, except for the loose wires hanging around...that'd drive me nuts personally.
My Chevy might give you a run for your money though (not that I want to get into a p!ssing contest)....
Top photo shows remote for the caravan electric leg, 4x switches on dash to turn various screens etc ON/OFF, phone on charging cradle (used for street navigation), main stereo system, UHF, REDARC tow Pro.
Second photo shows TPMS and dashcam...mounted using the factory's windscreen rear view mirror mount. No internal rear view mirror as canopy made it useless.
Third photo shows the control for the extra 113 litre fuel tank...where I can pump that diesel across to the main 215 litre tank. Also, a series of switches I added.
Fourth pic shows Samsung tablet (for Exploroz off-road mapping), rear/side view camera (camera is mounted under tail light, looking sideways at hitch. Main camera is above the hitch and is viewed on the stereo system. Having 2 cameras gives me a 3D view of the hitching process and together with the remote electric leg operation, makes single-handed hook-ups a breeze. The screen can also be switched over to a front-mount camera on the bullbar), then there's the EDGE CTS3 which gives me oodles of data from the OBD2 port and in the corner is the digital Airbag Man pressure gauge. Not shown in any of the pics is the pair of paddle swithes (similar to the one shown in the last pic), for adjusting the suspension airbags. These are located under the steering column. On top of the dash, below the steering wheel in the pic, is the Ultimate 9 gadget that enables me to vary the throttle response.
In the fifth and final pic, we see the various switches I've added, the UHF cord and the gauge + paddle switch to enable me to alter the pressure in the Airsafe Hitch airbag at any time.
Too much stuff? Possibly. Bear in mind that I never have all these gadgets ON at the same time. They are each turned on when/if needed.
I think for a Ham your interior is rather conservative and don't let these know-it-all-better discourage you. We are legally sanctioned to use our microphones while we drive, so let's do it.
Here is my mobile shack:
The ham radios (Hf and Uhf/Vhf) are in the roof console. The THP 100W amp for the Uhf is under the rear seat. Antenna tuner for the yagi and long wire when stationary. Mobile tuner for the HI-Q Antenna 160-EX. Antenna selector Above the driver seat behind the head rest (not in picture). Battery monitor for the 340Ah Lithium house battery and a capacitive antenna matcher for the Tarheel 100hp mounted outside. The autotuner for the Tarheel is also under the rear seat. There is also a battery monitor for the starter batteries.
Side view monitor displays the left side (blind spot) and can also display the trailer caravan on the left when reversing. Same applies to the right. 3 Gauges in the front are intake temp (past intercooler), EGT and Oil temp. Also visible is the rear view monitor which is a permanent rear view of the truck or the trailer when hitched.
The other important bits are the pressure gauges and warning light for my airbrake system, the air bags and pressure for the exhaust brake and air horn.
Upper dash has mainly gauges, including a Banks iDash, and the tire monitor for my 12 tires. Uhf CB with speaker at the right, side view monitor just out of the picture.
Lower dash is just the touch screen for my Windows 10 PC running Oziexplorer and co-pilot, my music library and various other stuff including ham apps
Below and around the steering wheel are a bunch of switches.
And a bit more stuff behind the rear seats including solar charger (2x 120W flexible panels on the roof), 3000W inverter, the ham radio units , the pc, fibre optic receiver for the trailer cameras and the video auto switches for the cameras, which are not yet all connected.
And yes, it is all documented with connection diagrams for all connectors.
How do you manage to see the road? I get pee...d off if the Missus or dog has their head in the way and I can't see out the passenger window............
Cheers Bob
vk6gmd said
02:21 PM May 8, 2022
Bobdown wrote:
How do you manage to see the road? I get pee...d off if the Missus or dog has their head in the way and I can't see out the passenger window............
Cheers Bob
Hi Bob,
you make the assumption that the images show the actual viewing angle to the front and side. That is not so. The images where taken with a focus on installed gadgets not the unobstructed window space. They have an optical distortion which makes the window appear smaller than it actually is. Compared to the original interior there is not much reduction in viewing area since the pillars are wide anyway and the rear view mirror is large. Very little has been taken away from that. This was one of main objectives with this installation, little imposition, maximum functionality and ease of use, which contributes to driving safety, even when on the microphone.
regards
Gmd
vk6gmd said
09:15 PM May 17, 2022
BAZZA44 wrote:
And to think I am sharing the road with some of you blokes while you are playing with your tech gadgets. Get real.
Barry
If you can't handle a microphone maybe you should not tow anything. I have an HC license since 50 years this year and looking after an engine, a trailer, a radio and a navigation unit is a minimum of skills one develops. Not talking about my Leopard license I used to have, which the Australians did not honour when I immigrated, since they do not have Leopards anyway.
regards
gmd
Bicyclecamper said
09:49 PM Jun 15, 2022
Jesus, I thought their were some terrible, members on here in the other parts of this forum, but this section their are some terrible human beings, the way they talk to someone. This show and tell, is what this section is all about, shooting someone down, just because he showed his cab of his truck, and it is a truck, and you scum denigrate the three posters here, and try to drag them down to your level. I liked seeing the pics and appreciate, it from another truckies view point. Their are reasons for these accessories, and if you don't understand it, or don't like it, don't comment, I am almost fed up with the Grey Nomads website and forum, and can see it going the way facebook is, becoming irrelevant!.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 15th of June 2022 09:56:48 PM
Pradokakadudavid said
09:55 PM Jun 23, 2022
What dashboard!
fwdoz said
10:06 AM Jun 24, 2022
Bicyclecamper wrote:
Jesus, I thought their were some terrible, members on here in the other parts of this forum, but this section their are some terrible human beings, the way they talk to someone. This show and tell, is what this section is all about, shooting someone down, just because he showed his cab of his truck, and it is a truck, and you scum denigrate the three posters here, and try to drag them down to your level. I liked seeing the pics and appreciate, it from another truckies view point. Their are reasons for these accessories, and if you don't understand it, or don't like it, don't comment, I am almost fed up with the Grey Nomads website and forum, and can see it going the way facebook is, becoming irrelevant!.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 15th of June 2022 09:56:48 PM
Its the way the world is these days. If they dont like or agree with you they will shout or tear you down & tell you how you should be. Too much of this people telling you what to do or people are offended by anything society we have today.
Think they need to read the Social Media laws surrounding comments. Maybe the mods can draw attention to it since these laws will not be going away.
And just to get back on topic, while these setups might not be my cup of tea, each to their own.
KJB said
10:58 AM Jun 24, 2022
Nice workmanship ....well done ! Not easy installing extra equipment in modern vehicles - and keeping it orderly and neat . Enjoy the results of your efforts. - I know you will ! KB
Webmaster said
04:49 PM Jun 24, 2022
Hi all, Just a reminder to be respectful of others while posting. I have removed a couple of posts on this thread which do not reflect the positive atmosphere that we would our forum to have. Thanks for your cooperation.
Wannabe nomad said
10:58 AM Jun 25, 2022
I agree with bicyclecamper, not my cupatea but each to his own.
Buzz Lightbulb said
02:42 PM Jun 25, 2022
This is a general comment and NOT directed at the OP but isn't there some law about not obstructing the drivers vision?
Plain Truth said
08:30 PM Jun 25, 2022
Buzz Lightbulb wrote:
This is a general comment and NOT directed at the OP but isn't there some law about not obstructing the drivers vision?
Buzz,why don't you read the post,it was stated,and I will quote the poster" You make the assumption that the images show that the images show the actual viewing angle to the front and side.That is not so " end of quote.
Go back and read it. You are right, forward vision cannot be obstructed. It is just the camera angles that make it look so.
and I know this quote was not directed at you.
Mike Harding said
07:04 AM Jun 26, 2022
And to think I baulked at fitting one radio into my modern car!
yogi said
06:21 PM Jun 29, 2022
lot of thinking and work there,, but the speed knob on the wheel is illegal
Optimark said
01:58 PM Aug 10, 2022
yogi wrote:
lot of thinking and work there,, but the speed knob on the wheel is illegal
That may possibly be correct, however my brother in-law who had a mild stroke around 30 years ago and has reduced capacity on one side of his body, has one fitted to his automobiles. It is a legal requirement for him to have one fitted to anything he drives.
-- Edited by Optimark on Wednesday 10th of August 2022 02:00:30 PM
KJB said
02:24 PM Aug 10, 2022
Optimark wrote:
yogi wrote:
lot of thinking and work there,, but the speed knob on the wheel is illegal
That may possibly be correct, however my brother in-law who had a mild stroke around 30 years ago and has reduced capacity on one side of his body, has one fitted to his automobiles. It is a legal requirement for him to have one fitted to anything he drives.
Steering Wheel Knob - Great on Front End Loaders .......(and it was Road Registered too....) KB
-- Edited by Optimark on Wednesday 10th of August 2022 02:00:30 PM
gold dandelion said
08:52 PM Aug 10, 2022
A lot of effort gone into some of these rigs for sure, what ever suits the driver, I did think I was on an aero plane forum for a minute though.
jegog said
01:02 PM Aug 26, 2022
A lot of effort goes into mitigating personal injury when a vehicle is involved in a collision. Soft surfaces and rounder edges are incorporated to that end.
Has anybody inquired whether all those(I assume not listed oil their insurance policy) after market additions would invalidate their insurance policy?
Some years ago I was involved with supplying equipment which was installed inside police vehicles. It required a special dissension to install the cameras and no-one was permitted to occupy the front passenger seat while the car was moving.
So you are a safe driver, but that doesn't prevent a car hurtling across the median strip and plonking down between you and the car in front of you as happened to ,me a few years ago.
Craig1 said
03:25 PM Aug 26, 2022
Jegog, you had better not look inside a nsw cop car, or a noddy van today then. They are that full of gear, almost seems to push the passenger out. Yes they do sit in the front seat.
rogs said
05:40 PM Feb 13, 2023
can anyone help with this...
Do you know how to turn the rear sensors off when you connect a caravan (i have late 2019 series5 Y62)
Just thought I would show everyone the dashboard of my Nissan Patrol, do you think it is too cluttered?
Big Sat Nav, Caravan reversing camera monitor, Mobile phone mount, Quad band Amateur Radio, UHF C.B. Radio, Am FM radio with bluetooth and H.D. Dash cam.
Yes,
Many Sat Nav GPS units can be configured as a viewing monitor.
If this is the case with your unit you may want to connect your reversing camera through that screen and eliminate having the monitor for the camera.
That might save you a bit of clutter on the dash.
When I put my car in for service at a pedantic Toyota dealer they removed my GPS before they would drive it.
As such I dont use that dealer any more.
Road Rules 2014 (NSW) r 297 states that a driver must not drive if they do not have complete control of the vehicle. Conduct such as eating or listening to music while driving can become distractions resulting in loss of control. When it comes to roadside offences, Police have wide discretionary powers.
I recently worked with a man that was fined for not having proper control!
Drinking a cup of coffee and driving with 1 hand!
AUSTRALIAN ROAD RULES - REG 297
Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
297 Driver to have proper control of a vehicle etc
(1) A driver must not drive a vehicle unless the driver has proper control of the vehicle.
It is not legal to drive using one hand except for changing gear and other necessary functions. Which means turning the wheel with one hand is not legal here.
BUT ( there is always a but ) these devices are compulsory for a handicapped person where one arm is not functional. They have to undergo a special licence test to prove that they can drive safely and proficiently like this.
I agree with the technical term!
I have added a lot of things to my car but have made them all to be as invisible as possible. Hard wired TPMS. Neodymium magnet on dashboard to remove GPS as it's mostly not needed, also so there is no rubbish on the windscreen. Dashcams are above sun visor position. It's not difficult to have everything under control.
If you are happy with your setup and it helps you achieve a safe driving environment, then I would keep it as is.
Looks okay to me, except for the loose wires hanging around...that'd drive me nuts personally.
My Chevy might give you a run for your money though (not that I want to get into a p!ssing contest)....
Top photo shows remote for the caravan electric leg, 4x switches on dash to turn various screens etc ON/OFF, phone on charging cradle (used for street navigation), main stereo system, UHF, REDARC tow Pro.
Second photo shows TPMS and dashcam...mounted using the factory's windscreen rear view mirror mount. No internal rear view mirror as canopy made it useless.
Third photo shows the control for the extra 113 litre fuel tank...where I can pump that diesel across to the main 215 litre tank. Also, a series of switches I added.
Fourth pic shows Samsung tablet (for Exploroz off-road mapping), rear/side view camera (camera is mounted under tail light, looking sideways at hitch. Main camera is above the hitch and is viewed on the stereo system. Having 2 cameras gives me a 3D view of the hitching process and together with the remote electric leg operation, makes single-handed hook-ups a breeze. The screen can also be switched over to a front-mount camera on the bullbar), then there's the EDGE CTS3 which gives me oodles of data from the OBD2 port and in the corner is the digital Airbag Man pressure gauge. Not shown in any of the pics is the pair of paddle swithes (similar to the one shown in the last pic), for adjusting the suspension airbags. These are located under the steering column. On top of the dash, below the steering wheel in the pic, is the Ultimate 9 gadget that enables me to vary the throttle response.
In the fifth and final pic, we see the various switches I've added, the UHF cord and the gauge + paddle switch to enable me to alter the pressure in the Airsafe Hitch airbag at any time.
Too much stuff? Possibly. Bear in mind that I never have all these gadgets ON at the same time. They are each turned on when/if needed.
Then pay the Fine without the whine.
I think for a Ham your interior is rather conservative and don't let these know-it-all-better discourage you.
We are legally sanctioned to use our microphones while we drive, so let's do it.
Here is my mobile shack:
The ham radios (Hf and Uhf/Vhf) are in the roof console. The THP 100W amp for the Uhf is under the rear seat. Antenna tuner for the yagi and long wire when stationary. Mobile tuner for the HI-Q Antenna 160-EX. Antenna selector Above the driver seat behind the head rest (not in picture). Battery monitor for the 340Ah Lithium house battery and a capacitive antenna matcher for the Tarheel 100hp mounted outside. The autotuner for the Tarheel is also under the rear seat. There is also a battery monitor for the starter batteries.
Side view monitor displays the left side (blind spot) and can also display the trailer caravan on the left when reversing. Same applies to the right. 3 Gauges in the front are intake temp (past intercooler), EGT and Oil temp. Also visible is the rear view monitor which is a permanent rear view of the truck or the trailer when hitched.
The other important bits are the pressure gauges and warning light for my airbrake system, the air bags and pressure for the exhaust brake and air horn.
Upper dash has mainly gauges, including a Banks iDash, and the tire monitor for my 12 tires. Uhf CB with speaker at the right, side view monitor just out of the picture.
Lower dash is just the touch screen for my Windows 10 PC running Oziexplorer and co-pilot, my music library and various other stuff including ham apps
Below and around the steering wheel are a bunch of switches.
And a bit more stuff behind the rear seats including solar charger (2x 120W flexible panels on the roof), 3000W inverter, the ham radio units , the pc, fibre optic receiver for the trailer cameras and the video auto switches for the cameras, which are not yet all connected.
And yes, it is all documented with connection diagrams for all connectors.
regards
Gmd
How do you manage to see the road? I get pee...d off if the Missus or dog has their head in the way and I can't see out the passenger window............
Cheers Bob
Hi Bob,
you make the assumption that the images show the actual viewing angle to the front and side. That is not so. The images where taken with a focus on installed gadgets not the unobstructed window space. They have an optical distortion which makes the window appear smaller than it actually is. Compared to the original interior there is not much reduction in viewing area since the pillars are wide anyway and the rear view mirror is large. Very little has been taken away from that. This was one of main objectives with this installation, little imposition, maximum functionality and ease of use, which contributes to driving safety, even when on the microphone.
regards
Gmd
If you can't handle a microphone maybe you should not tow anything. I have an HC license since 50 years this year and looking after an engine, a trailer, a radio and a navigation unit is a minimum of skills one develops. Not talking about my Leopard license I used to have, which the Australians did not honour when I immigrated, since they do not have Leopards anyway.
regards
gmd
Jesus, I thought their were some terrible, members on here in the other parts of this forum, but this section their are some terrible human beings, the way they talk to someone. This show and tell, is what this section is all about, shooting someone down, just because he showed his cab of his truck, and it is a truck, and you scum denigrate the three posters here, and try to drag them down to your level. I liked seeing the pics and appreciate, it from another truckies view point. Their are reasons for these accessories, and if you don't understand it, or don't like it, don't comment, I am almost fed up with the Grey Nomads website and forum, and can see it going the way facebook is, becoming irrelevant!.
-- Edited by Bicyclecamper on Wednesday 15th of June 2022 09:56:48 PM
What dashboard!
Its the way the world is these days. If they dont like or agree with you they will shout or tear you down & tell you how you should be. Too much of this people telling you what to do or people are offended by anything society we have today.
Think they need to read the Social Media laws surrounding comments. Maybe the mods can draw attention to it since these laws will not be going away.
And just to get back on topic, while these setups might not be my cup of tea, each to their own.
Nice workmanship ....well done ! Not easy installing extra equipment in modern vehicles - and keeping it orderly and neat . Enjoy the results of your efforts. - I know you will ! KB
Hi all,
Just a reminder to be respectful of others while posting. I have removed a couple of posts on this thread which do not reflect the positive atmosphere that we would our forum to have. Thanks for your cooperation.
This is a general comment and NOT directed at the OP but isn't there some law about not obstructing the drivers vision?
Buzz,why don't you read the post,it was stated,and I will quote the poster" You make the assumption that the images show that the images show the actual viewing angle to the front and side.That is not so " end of quote.
Go back and read it. You are right, forward vision cannot be obstructed. It is just the camera angles that make it look so.
and I know this quote was not directed at you.
And to think I baulked at fitting one radio into my modern car!
lot of thinking and work there,, but the speed knob on the wheel is illegal
That may possibly be correct, however my brother in-law who had a mild stroke around 30 years ago and has reduced capacity on one side of his body, has one fitted to his automobiles. It is a legal requirement for him to have one fitted to anything he drives.
-- Edited by Optimark on Wednesday 10th of August 2022 02:00:30 PM
Has anybody inquired whether all those(I assume not listed oil their insurance policy) after market additions would invalidate their insurance policy?
Some years ago I was involved with supplying equipment which was installed inside police vehicles. It required a special dissension to install the cameras and no-one was permitted to occupy the front passenger seat while the car was moving.
So you are a safe driver, but that doesn't prevent a car hurtling across the median strip and plonking down between you and the car in front of you as happened to ,me a few years ago.
can anyone help with this...
Do you know how to turn the rear sensors off when you connect a caravan (i have late 2019 series5 Y62)