While at caravan parks and connected to tap water via hose......
I have these connectors just like the garden variety and have a problem with the connections dripping all the time, can't seem to stop it
Do you turn off the tap if going away for say a day trip or the like ? or even overnight while asleep ?
Just in case it becomes more than a drip!!
Is there connections to use that don't drip ?
Cheers
Vince
deverall11 said
12:52 PM Feb 5, 2016
Vince, is the water leaking from the connector itself or the tap? If the tap, we always carry a roll of teflon tape. Put a little bit on the thread and screw your hose in place. If the connector, just fiddle with it. If it leaks there, it would leak at home also.
Vince, is the water leaking from the connector itself or the tap? If the tap, we always carry a roll of teflon tape. Put a little bit on the thread and screw your hose in place. If the connector, just fiddle with it. If it leaks there, it would leak at home also.
It's leaking from the connector and I replaced the O ring but that didn't fix it...bought a new 3/4 tap fitting and still get it dripping. No leak from the tap, only at the van end
I'm just worried that if we go away and the connection leaks badly at places where water is scares
Currently we are turning the tap off but wondering what other members might do or have
I have the hoselink system at home and it's the best ever on the market.
We have a hard nylex type and soft type hoses we use with the van and couldn't get them to fit into the fitting properly.
Is there a type of hose to use specifically?
At home we just use ordinary garden hose not good for drinking out of though
Casualkev said
01:42 PM Feb 5, 2016
Vince not trying to be a smart a**e, but the 'O'rings must be the right size as in thickness as well as diameter otherwise they will still leak & maybe try a bit of 'O' ring grease a bit stickier then vasoline.
Kev
ballast2 said
01:46 PM Feb 5, 2016
G'day. Just a thought. could it be the fitting on the hose (not the tap) is the problem? Found it once on mine. Replaced push on hose fitting problem fixed.
Cheers
brickies said
02:13 PM Feb 5, 2016
The Teflon tap is the way to go , The problem is the the tread on the tap get a lot of use in caravan parks and wear the tread out so the teflon tape take up for the wear
Vince said
02:16 PM Feb 5, 2016
Casualkev wrote:
Vince not trying to be a smart a**e, but the 'O'rings must be the right size as in thickness as well as diameter otherwise they will still leak & maybe try a bit of 'O' ring grease a bit stickier then vasoline.
Kev
No worries Kev, I got the right size O rings and will try the grease idea. Thanks
Baz421 said
02:51 PM Feb 5, 2016
Sorry to have a contra opinion BUT Teflon tape is NOT the way to go,,, it only stuffs the tap when we come along after you and try to use the tap.
We have to take the Teflon tape off or it splits our fittings. Ask around.
Leaks are either:
1 at the tap - internal washer
2 at the tap - incorrect or worn out o ring
3 poor quality fittings from the $1 shop - you know the green ones etc as they are slightly different sizes
4 at the van - poor seal with connector to van fitting or o ring or poor quality fittings.
The O rings you buy in the $1 shop are often of a lesser (cross sectional) diameter (not the outer diameter) than those you buy in packs at Bunnings, so they leak.
The cheap $1 fittings are often larger diameter internal bore size and therefore don't seal at the o ring EVEN if you have right o ring.
SOLUTION.
Buy a good set of fittings.
Onedodger said
04:45 PM Feb 5, 2016
Baz421 wrote:
Sorry to have a contra opinion BUT Teflon tape is NOT the way to go,,, it only stuffs the tap when we come along after you and try to use the tap.
We have to take the Teflon tape off or it splits our fittings. Ask around.
Leaks are either:
1 at the tap - internal washer
2 at the tap - incorrect or worn out o ring
3 poor quality fittings from the $1 shop - you know the green ones etc as they are slightly different sizes
4 at the van - poor seal with connector to van fitting or o ring or poor quality fittings.
The O rings you buy in the $1 shop are often of a lesser (cross sectional) diameter (not the outer diameter) than those you buy in packs at Bunnings, so they leak.
The cheap $1 fittings are often larger diameter internal bore size and therefore don't seal at the o ring EVEN if you have right o ring.
SOLUTION.
Buy a good set of fittings.
Totally agree with the above. Good quality fittings are a must.
However the easiest way is to turn the tap of when absent.
johnno48 said
04:54 PM Feb 5, 2016
Hoselink is great
blaze said
04:55 PM Feb 5, 2016
only use brass fittings, plastic are hopeless on hot days
cheers
blaze
Geeco said
05:47 PM Feb 5, 2016
Another vote for hoselink. I have them on all hose fittings for our motorhome including both ends of the inline filter. We use food grade water hose we purchased from Masters and have never had a leak with that combination. I have noticed on a lot of caravan parks that the o'ring in the handle shaft often leaks. A gentle tap on the top of the handle usually helps to reveal it. Cheers, Gary C.
-- Edited by Geeco on Friday 5th of February 2016 05:49:03 PM
littledick said
05:52 PM Feb 5, 2016
Baz421 wrote:
Sorry to have a contra opinion BUT Teflon tape is NOT the way to go,,, it only stuffs the tap when we come along after you and try to use the tap.
We have to take the Teflon tape off or it splits our fittings. Ask around.
Leaks are either:
1 at the tap - internal washer
2 at the tap - incorrect or worn out o ring
3 poor quality fittings from the $1 shop - you know the green ones etc as they are slightly different sizes
4 at the van - poor seal with connector to van fitting or o ring or poor quality fittings.
The O rings you buy in the $1 shop are often of a lesser (cross sectional) diameter (not the outer diameter) than those you buy in packs at Bunnings, so they leak.
The cheap $1 fittings are often larger diameter internal bore size and therefore don't seal at the o ring EVEN if you have right o ring.
SOLUTION.
Buy a good set of fittings.
Totally agree, tape on taps not recommended. Buy good fittings.
Dick.
Dav4Cris said
07:32 PM Feb 5, 2016
The question was re water leak at van not at the tap end. If tap end then get better fittings as you should not need thread tape as the washer in the tape fitting should stop all water leaks at tap unless it is leaking via spindle. At van I have found that you need good quality fitting like Hoselink or the Toro fittings from Bunnings, $13.00 a fitting. I had same problem, replaced oring even wrapped a bit of teflon tape around the fitting still leaked, bit the bullet and bought the Toro fittings and leaks have stopped. I wont buy Hoselink because if you drop them they break the locking lug and then you have to buy a pair again, also there are heaps of Bunnings stores around Australia.
I have the hoselink system at home and it's the best ever on the market.
We have a hard nylex type and soft type hoses we use with the van and couldn't get them to fit into the fitting properly.
Is there a type of hose to use specifically?
At home we just use ordinary garden hose not good for drinking out of though
Gday...
Another VERY satisfied user of Hoselink fittings. I have been using them for the past seven years with my van - the SAME set.
They NEVER leak and are definitely the best connection system I have used in my long (very long actually ) life.
Vince, I use Hoselink fittings on the plain blue drinking water quality hose,
a blue 'hatch' drinking water quality hose
and on green ordinary garden hose that I use when just washing the car or van or for 'cleaning' stuff.
The hoselink fittings fit perfectly in all cases and the only problem I have had is removing a hoselink fitting to put it to a new piece of drinking quality hose. They are almost IMPOSSIBLE to remove from a hose.
Cheers - John
Cupie said
08:20 PM Feb 5, 2016
blaze wrote:
only use brass fittings, plastic are hopeless on hot days cheers blaze
I'm a fan of Brass fittings too.
When I used to use plastic fittings I did encounter some that developed minor cracks around the flange leading to difficult to detect leakages prior to complete separation.
I also pinch "O" rings and the 'rubber' washers from my Plumber Son's tap repair box. This ensures good quality. I replace them all in my annual maintenance routine. I pinch a finger wipe of tap grease too. Spares & grease go into old 35mm film or pill containers.
In my plumbing spares box on the rear bumper behind the spare tyre, I carry all my plumbing connections and spares along with a pair of vice grips, long nose pliers & a multi screwdriver. I rarely use thread tape but carry some just in case I strike a worn thread.
The box keeps getting full of connections left on the taps by previous users, though I usually leave them for the next person. (not the brass ones though).
My advice is to go to Reece Plumbing supplies & get new brass connectors & some quality spares.
first timer said
08:45 PM Feb 5, 2016
I vote for hoselink, they also do blue and white drinking water hoses as well. Well worth the money.
Ashley
Vince said
04:47 AM Feb 6, 2016
Had another go at using spare hoselink fittings I had lying around and have success, I had to put the hose ends in hot water to soften and expand them to fit the coupling. ( another vote for youtube)
Connected it all up to water and no leaks
I have been using hoselink at home for about 7 years and they are a great product. (answer was staring at me right here)
I like brass fittings too but I feel that these fittings might be a culprit in wearing the thread on the taps where the plastics may not IMO.
Thanks to everyone that replied and help sort this dilemma out.
Cheers Vince
-- Edited by Vince on Saturday 6th of February 2016 04:50:10 AM
Old Crofter said
10:23 AM Feb 6, 2016
A number of connection points on vans and motorhomes are "camec" brand and from the USA buy the correct size fitting (not metric) and your leak problem solved.
Bob
ShortNorth said
11:27 PM Feb 6, 2016
There is one common fault with all Avans - when built Avan only fit cheap plastic hose connectors to the mains water inlet - the problem is the plastic connector is Australian metric and the brass inlet it is screwed into is American imperial thread - Avan overcome the difference by wrapping heaps of white plumbers tape around the plastic thread. The problem is that over time the mains water pressure will find 'paths' through the white tape and then your water connection starts leaking, getting progressively worse over time.
Ours reached the point where we could not connect the mains water as the leakage was so severe. Solution - we got a 1 and 1/16th inch American threaded brass connector (funnily enough, our local Avan agent had them in stock - maybe they knew all along the plastic connecters were garbage !) - no more leaks - problem solved.
I don't know why Avan simply don't fit the proper brass ones direct from the factory - for the sake of a couple of dollars, they are causing a van owners a problem, which generally only rears its ugly head after the van warranty runs out !!!
I guess this may also be a problem on other brands of van - check to see if your connector is plastic or brass !
Bevandy2 said
11:49 PM Feb 6, 2016
Baz is on the money, but also, try backing the tap off a bit, some parks have enormous pressure, which you don't need, test it at the tap on the A frame and adjust to a nice steady flow, that might help.
I also prefer brass fittings. Make sure the hose is not under stress where it connects, ie, naturally hanging on the connection, they sometimes leak if bent against the natural angle of the hose. (if you get my meaning??)
Bevan
KevKim37 said
12:47 AM Feb 7, 2016
The idea of turning the Tap off to Stop over pressure is False as all this does is Slow the Water Flow down not the Pressure. Even if turned to the nearly off position the Pressure is still the same as if it was fully on.
Also as a "Precaution all RV Owners" should Turn Mains Water Supplies Off when leaving their Rig for an Appreciable amount of Time.-
1. To Stop Internal Water Damage whilst Not in the RV.(Blown fittings/hoses)
2. To Stop excessive Water Wastage if and when the Inferior Hose Connectors Blow Off or the Hose Splits while away from the RV.
I Have seen quite a few vans and Motorhomes damaged from above problems except our own because of the Precautions taken above.
Cupie said
10:02 AM Feb 7, 2016
KevKim37 wrote:
The idea of turning the Tap off to Stop over pressure is False as all this does is Slow the Water Flow down not the Pressure. Even if turned to the nearly off position the Pressure is still the same as if it was fully on. Also as a "Precaution all RV Owners" should Turn Mains Water Supplies Off when leaving their Rig for an Appreciable amount of Time.- 1. To Stop Internal Water Damage whilst Not in the RV.(Blown fittings/hoses) 2. To Stop excessive Water Wastage if and when the Inferior Hose Connectors Blow Off or the Hose Splits while away from the RV. I Have seen quite a few vans and Motorhomes damaged from above problems except our own because of the Precautions taken above.
I can recall an incident at one CP many years ago where the end blew off the hose overnight & the water pressure gouged out a great crater in the lawn. And I slept through it all!
They are only available online. [edit: but they also have a 1800 number for orders as well]
However, I have bought additional items over the past seven years and they will deliver to a 'physical' address so I have simply nominated the van park I am in at the time of delivery. They are usually received within a few days.
cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Sunday 7th of February 2016 11:20:46 AM
Cowboy7307 said
11:38 AM Feb 7, 2016
Thanks rockylizard will order some later today
Ausmo said
02:52 PM Feb 7, 2016
Hoselink rocks, do yourself a favour and get some!
greyhoundtom said
09:10 PM Feb 7, 2016
There is no doubt that hoselink is the way to go, however if you are stuck as I have been where there is a minute drip at the point where your hose connects to that crappy white plastic connection fitted to the van, one way out is to temporarily remove the O ring off that fitting, then three wraps of Teflon plumbers tape at the spot where the O ring fits, and put the O ring back on.
Hi
While at caravan parks and connected to tap water via hose......
I have these connectors just like the garden variety and have a problem with the connections dripping all the time, can't seem to stop it
Do you turn off the tap if going away for say a day trip or the like ? or even overnight while asleep ?
Just in case it becomes more than a drip!!
Is there connections to use that don't drip ?
Cheers
Vince
Regards
Bassett52
It's leaking from the connector and I replaced the O ring but that didn't fix it...bought a new 3/4 tap fitting and still get it dripping. No leak from the tap, only at the van end
I'm just worried that if we go away and the connection leaks badly at places where water is scares
Currently we are turning the tap off but wondering what other members might do or have
Thanks Basset52
I have the hoselink system at home and it's the best ever on the market.
We have a hard nylex type and soft type hoses we use with the van and couldn't get them to fit into the fitting properly.
Is there a type of hose to use specifically?
At home we just use ordinary garden hose not good for drinking out of though
Kev
Cheers
No worries Kev, I got the right size O rings and will try the grease idea. Thanks
Sorry to have a contra opinion BUT Teflon tape is NOT the way to go,,, it only stuffs the tap when we come along after you and try to use the tap.
We have to take the Teflon tape off or it splits our fittings. Ask around.
Leaks are either:
1 at the tap - internal washer
2 at the tap - incorrect or worn out o ring
3 poor quality fittings from the $1 shop - you know the green ones etc as they are slightly different sizes
4 at the van - poor seal with connector to van fitting or o ring or poor quality fittings.
The O rings you buy in the $1 shop are often of a lesser (cross sectional) diameter (not the outer diameter) than those you buy in packs at Bunnings, so they leak.
The cheap $1 fittings are often larger diameter internal bore size and therefore don't seal at the o ring EVEN if you have right o ring.
SOLUTION.
Buy a good set of fittings.
Totally agree with the above. Good quality fittings are a must.
However the easiest way is to turn the tap of when absent.
cheers
blaze
Another vote for hoselink. I have them on all hose fittings for our motorhome including both ends of the inline filter. We use food grade water hose we purchased from Masters and have never had a leak with that combination. I have noticed on a lot of caravan parks that the o'ring in the handle shaft often leaks. A gentle tap on the top of the handle usually helps to reveal it.
Cheers,
Gary C.
-- Edited by Geeco on Friday 5th of February 2016 05:49:03 PM
Totally agree, tape on taps not recommended. Buy good fittings.
Dick.
Gday...
Another VERY satisfied user of Hoselink fittings. I have been using them for the past seven years with my van - the SAME set.
They NEVER leak and are definitely the best connection system I have used in my long (very long actually
) life.
Vince, I use Hoselink fittings on the plain blue drinking water quality hose,
a blue 'hatch' drinking water quality hose
and on green ordinary garden hose that I use when just washing the car or van or for 'cleaning' stuff.
The hoselink fittings fit perfectly in all cases and the only problem I have had is removing a hoselink fitting to put it to a new piece of drinking quality hose. They are almost IMPOSSIBLE to remove from a hose.
Cheers - John
I'm a fan of Brass fittings too.
When I used to use plastic fittings I did encounter some that developed minor cracks around the flange leading to difficult to detect leakages prior to complete separation.
I also pinch "O" rings and the 'rubber' washers from my Plumber Son's tap repair box. This ensures good quality. I replace them all in my annual maintenance routine. I pinch a finger wipe of tap grease too. Spares & grease go into old 35mm film or pill containers.
In my plumbing spares box on the rear bumper behind the spare tyre, I carry all my plumbing connections and spares along with a pair of vice grips, long nose pliers & a multi screwdriver. I rarely use thread tape but carry some just in case I strike a worn thread.
The box keeps getting full of connections left on the taps by previous users, though I usually leave them for the next person. (not the brass ones though).
My advice is to go to Reece Plumbing supplies & get new brass connectors & some quality spares.
Ashley
Had another go at using spare hoselink fittings I had lying around and have success, I had to put the hose ends in hot water to soften and expand them to fit the coupling. ( another vote for youtube)
Connected it all up to water and no leaks
I have been using hoselink at home for about 7 years and they are a great product. (answer was staring at me right here)
I like brass fittings too but I feel that these fittings might be a culprit in wearing the thread on the taps where the plastics may not IMO.
Thanks to everyone that replied and help sort this dilemma out.
Cheers
Vince
-- Edited by Vince on Saturday 6th of February 2016 04:50:10 AM
A number of connection points on vans and motorhomes are "camec" brand and from the USA buy the correct size fitting (not metric) and your leak problem solved.
Bob
There is one common fault with all Avans - when built Avan only fit cheap plastic hose connectors to the mains water inlet - the problem is the plastic connector is Australian metric and the brass inlet it is screwed into is American imperial thread - Avan overcome the difference by wrapping heaps of white plumbers tape around the plastic thread. The problem is that over time the mains water pressure will find 'paths' through the white tape and then your water connection starts leaking, getting progressively worse over time.
Ours reached the point where we could not connect the mains water as the leakage was so severe. Solution - we got a 1 and 1/16th inch American threaded brass connector (funnily enough, our local Avan agent had them in stock - maybe they knew all along the plastic connecters were garbage !) - no more leaks - problem solved.
I don't know why Avan simply don't fit the proper brass ones direct from the factory - for the sake of a couple of dollars, they are causing a van owners a problem, which generally only rears its ugly head after the van warranty runs out !!!
I guess this may also be a problem on other brands of van - check to see if your connector is plastic or brass !
I also prefer brass fittings. Make sure the hose is not under stress where it connects, ie, naturally hanging on the connection, they sometimes leak if bent against the natural angle of the hose. (if you get my meaning??)
Bevan
Also as a "Precaution all RV Owners" should Turn Mains Water Supplies Off when leaving their Rig for an Appreciable amount of Time.-
1. To Stop Internal Water Damage whilst Not in the RV.(Blown fittings/hoses)
2. To Stop excessive Water Wastage if and when the Inferior Hose Connectors Blow Off or the Hose Splits while away from the RV.
I Have seen quite a few vans and Motorhomes damaged from above problems except our own because of the Precautions taken above.
I can recall an incident at one CP many years ago where the end blew off the hose overnight & the water pressure gouged out a great crater in the lawn. And I slept through it all!
Must have wasted a lot of water.
can you only buy off line, or are thy available in stores
Gday...
They are only available online. [edit: but they also have a 1800 number for orders as well]
However, I have bought additional items over the past seven years and they will deliver to a 'physical' address so I have simply nominated the van park I am in at the time of delivery. They are usually received within a few days.
cheers - John
-- Edited by rockylizard on Sunday 7th of February 2016 11:20:46 AM
Hoselink rocks, do yourself a favour and get some!
Problem fixed.