I note the story on the Grey Nomad news re the the re-furbishment of the ferries. They state that passenger bookings are up some 15%. I would venture to say that their bookings would be up a lot more if the rate for caravans was not so high.
Swoffer said
12:17 PM Jan 11, 2016
Freind of mine recently paid 2 grand for the privilege.
Bit out of my reach I'm afraid.
Al
valiant81 said
02:05 PM Jan 11, 2016
Hi all;
We traveled over to Tassie last August 2015, special price as the spirits had just had a referb. That was our 3rd trip over. We had a cabin over and back, 2 adults, 2 small dogs and 12 mtrs of 4x4 and caravan ( pop top ). Cost about $ 1300.00 return, stayed for 1 month.
On other times when we have looked at going over the cost was again well, north of $2000.00 and this is before you have spent $1.00 in Tassie. Don't get me wrong we love Tassie and have even looked at living there. But have to agree maybe to get more people over is not to charge for the trailer/caravan.
Something for the been counters to think about !!!!
subaru said
03:15 PM Jan 11, 2016
I think at the end of the day it comes down to what you are prepared to pay and what value you get for the outlay.
SWMBO has never been to Tassie and she wanted to go,we paid $1400 for return day fares,no cabin,no whistles
taking the Collie and pulling jayco poptop discovery and we will be there for 6 weeks.We hope to do a mixture of low
cost/free camping and caravan parks as well to "pay the fare over".Happy Wife,Happy Life.
Cloak said
03:24 PM Jan 11, 2016
We fly down, rent a car and stay in motels. Cheaper, more comfortable and few worries.
Desert Dweller said
03:48 PM Jan 11, 2016
March last year we took just the car & did a complete circle plus Cradle Mtn, Gordon Rvr Cruise etc. staying in cabins for 15 nights. Seen it, not in a hurry to go back. Did a day sailing to Tas, so boring!
Waiting to get on & off the Spirit is a real drag! Wouldn't even consider taking our caravan over. Too many Asian tourists in hire cars driving on the wrong side of the road
erad said
05:21 PM Jan 11, 2016
We have done Tassie both ways - just our car and cabins, and taken the caravan with us. We needed to stay at least 3 weeks to justify the cost of taking the van, but for us, it would be the van every time. It is not the the cabins were bad, simply that out van is better for us. We have our own beds, and the convenience of not having to pack and unpack outweighs the disadvantages of taking the van.
Tassie is a delightful place to visit. I found that with the van, I rarely went over 80 km/h - not because it was unsafe to go faster, but simply because it is so much more relaxing. Even without the van, I rarely went over 90, and very few locals overtook me. Life is so much simpler there. I am sure that they have their problems as every other place has, but they don't surface like they do in outer Sydney and inner Melbourne.
blaze said
05:53 PM Jan 11, 2016
Desert Dweller wrote:
March last year we took just the car & did a complete circle plus Cradle Mtn, Gordon Rvr Cruise etc. staying in cabins for 15 nights. Seen it, not in a hurry to go back. Did a day sailing to Tas, so boring! Waiting to get on & off the Spirit is a real drag! Wouldn't even consider taking our caravan over. Too many Asian tourists in hire cars driving on the wrong side of the road
lived here in Tassie for 50 years and have never seen an Asian tourist driving on the wrong side of the road
The Phantom said
06:18 PM Jan 11, 2016
Perhaps DD meant the Asians were driving on the wrong side for them!
Like if they normally drive on the right and in Tassie they are driving on the left, then it would be the wrong side of the road. Or perhaps they come from Hong Kong and they drive on the left same as Australia does so maybe they are driving on the right and are on the wrong side.
Aww heck, now I'm confused. My head hurts. I think I will have a Bex and a lie down.
Which side of the bed should I be on?
The Phantom
jules47 said
06:18 PM Jan 11, 2016
Blaze - we spent four months there 2012/13 -loved every minute of it - we didn't see any Asians driving on the wrong side of the road - we did however, see an old Aussie bloke come around a roundabout the wrong way - bit scary.
Tassie is a great place, don't know how anyone could say "they have see it all" - there are heaps of places we didn't get to, mainly because the motorhome wouldn't have liked the windy roads - the ones we did do we ok - Elephant Pass, as long as no-one is coming the other way with a caravan. We loved the place, and if they would tow it up near Coffs Harbour, we could live there!!!!
Chris61 said
07:21 PM Jan 11, 2016
Magnarc wrote:
I note the story on the Grey Nomad news re the the re-furbishment of the ferries. They state that passenger bookings are up some 15%. I would venture to say that their bookings would be up a lot more if the rate for caravans was not so high.
Waiting for a special to come on sale at the moment. Last year 13m in July was approx $1600, this year approx $1800. I hope they don't get too busy, there may be no specials.
rockylizard said
07:47 PM Jan 11, 2016
Gday...
I too would LOVE to spend time in Tassie - but at around $2,000 for the return journey to take the van I cannot see the value.
I can live for a LONG time on the mainland for $2,000. If I pay that for the ferry I will STILL have to pay all my living expenses while jaunting around the Apple Isle.
I am thinking of leaving my van somewhere and just going over with my 4x4 and tent for a month or so - using cabins from time to time if the weather gets awful - which is quite probable for Tassie - as bad as or worse than Victoria
That will be the only way I could possibly see value for money for a trip to Tassie.
Cheers - John
Baz421 said
08:01 PM Jan 11, 2016
We're in Tassie now - MacIntosh Dam out west tonight (on way to Zeehan) no neighbours no $ just great.
I was coming over for RSL national Bowls carnival and that would have cost me $1500 for airfare and accom AND heaps for Booze if Iwas on my own, so wife and I are here with van for extra $500 ish, cabins both ways and 4 months in Tassie. Yes we are very lucky to be here.
Found some places a rip off but others just great. Found the best Park Ranger ever in Tassie = parks pass for our entire trip at good price.
People very friendly in parks etc and will be doing some free camping after we do the Gordon River and the Steam Train.
John ---- heaps of tenters in vehicles.
Heaps of good advice from locals on how to save $ etc. Very happy trip for us.
Desert Dweller said
08:25 PM Jan 11, 2016
blaze wrote:
Desert Dweller wrote:
March last year we took just the car & did a complete circle plus Cradle Mtn, Gordon Rvr Cruise etc. staying in cabins for 15 nights. Seen it, not in a hurry to go back. Did a day sailing to Tas, so boring! Waiting to get on & off the Spirit is a real drag! Wouldn't even consider taking our caravan over. Too many Asian tourists in hire cars driving on the wrong side of the road
lived here in Tassie for 50 years and have never seen an Asian tourist driving on the wrong side of the road
Must have been a bad fortnight, we almost wore half a dozen of 'em on our bulbar.
Hylife said
09:08 PM Jan 11, 2016
Understand that the TT Line shipping company that runs the ferries are sponsored/subsidised by the Tas Govt and as such deliberately price fares to stamp out anything that means you won't spend money in Tas.
Cheap for a car and person but taking a van means you have your own sleeping accomadation and therefor you won't be spending enough money in their hotels and motels and for that you will be penalised to balance out the subsidised passenger fares.
Current caravan rates are based on the total 'combination length' of vehicle and caravan for the vehicle fare, and then you add the passnger fare, and then you add the sailing accomadation fare.
Quite frankly, it plainly appears obvious that the Tas govt does not really want nomads, we don't spend enough.
Go talk to a trucking company, there are other ships that go there.
The Phantom said
09:22 PM Jan 11, 2016
Hylife wrote:
Understand that the TT Line shipping company that runs the ferries are sponsored/subsidised by the Tas Govt and as such deliberately price fares to stamp out anything that means you won't spend money in Tas.
Cheap for a car and person but taking a van means you have your own sleeping accomadation and therefor you won't be spending enough money in their hotels and motels and for that you will be penalised to balance out the subsidised passenger fares.
Current caravan rates are based on the total 'combination length' of vehicle and caravan for the vehicle fare, and then you add the passnger fare, and then you add the sailing accomadation fare.
Quite frankly, it plainly appears obvious that the Tas govt does not really want nomads, we don't spend enough.
Go talk to a trucking company, there are other ships that go there.
Maybe TT stands for Tasmanian Terrorist. Call Border Force or ASIO or whoever is in charge of conspiracies against Australians.
The Phantom
blaze said
09:38 PM Jan 11, 2016
the standard vehicle fare is subsidised under the national highway scheme. When you add trailer, van etc it is then classified as general freight. But lets get real about the fare, how much does it cost to go to kangaroo island for the same vehicle per km travelled. If you come across and free camp for 6 weeks, that just about sorts the fare out. The plus side is it helps keep the tight arses and bloody ratbags on the big island to the north. some people are never happy and only see the negative things their whole life, wake up in the morning with a smile on your dial and the world will smile with you. I have travelled to ever state and territory (except cambera)Your right, I love Tassie.
cheers
blaze
Bruce and Bev said
09:46 PM Jan 11, 2016
one of the new Tassie govts election promises was to revitalize tourism and part of that was to increase the subsidy they paid tourists on the boats, including us Nomads.
That doesn't seem to have happened as by all accounts, the charges have gone up this year
rockylizard said
09:58 PM Jan 11, 2016
blaze wrote:
~~~SNIP If you come across and free camp for 6 weeks, that just about sorts the fare out. The plus side is it helps keep the tight arses and bloody ratbags on the big island to the north. some people are never happy and only see the negative things their whole life, wake up in the morning with a smile on your dial and the world will smile with you. ~~~SNIP. cheers blaze
Gday...
Understand your drift blaze However, I already "freedom" camp on the "big island to the north". So the $2,000 fare on the ferry goes a long way when I remain on the "big island".
Not sure if I am a tight arse or a bloody ratbag - and I thought I was a pretty positive sort of bloke who always wakes up with a smile .... 'specially when I wake up at a camp beside a creek in the bush on the "big island to the north" - and I still have $2,000 in my bank.
Interestingly six weeks in a van park @ $30/night would work out to $1,260 - so still cheaper than the ferry fare - IF I stayed on the "big island to the north" and stayed in van parks each night - rather than paid a ferry fare and free camped on the "little island to the south".
However, liked I said earlier, I would love to see Tassie - but I reckon I will just go over in the Landy and me tent and rough it for a month or so.
Cheers - John
blaze said
10:10 PM Jan 11, 2016
hi rocky
I am also a landy tragic but without one atm, anyway if you do ever get over here let me know, some great spots up this way not many tourist get to see
cheers
blaze
Explorer said
10:54 PM Jan 11, 2016
Hypothetical!
Two travellers both in a similar vehicle towing similar vans, both in Melbourne. A decides to go to Hobart for a look costs a tad over $2000.00 return. Including fuel from Devonport/Hobart/Devonport 508klm.
B decides to go to Perth for a look cost approx. $2000.00 return for fuel alone AND He/She has to drive all the way. Fuel for 6850klm.
My last trip to each of these cities leaving from Brisbane were towing with a V6 petrol. I know which was the cheapest trip.
Mike
Explorer said
10:57 PM Jan 11, 2016
Hypothetical!
Two travellers both in a similar vehicle towing similar vans, both in Melbourne. A decides to go to Hobart for a look costs a tad over $2000.00 return. Including fuel from Devonport/Hobart/Devonport 508klm.
B decides to go to Perth for a look cost approx. $2000.00 return for fuel alone AND He/She has to drive all the way. Fuel for 6850klm.
My last trip to each of these cities leaving from Brisbane were towing with a V6 petrol. I know which was the cheapest trip.
Mike
Desert Dweller said
05:11 AM Jan 12, 2016
We enjoyed our 15 nights staying in cabins, taking only our car to Tassie from Melbourne. This year we've booked an 18 night trip to Darwin, Kakadu, Top End etc. flying from Melbourne & hiring a car, staying at lodges, hotels & resorts. CHEAPER than our Tassie trip! A ''no brainer''! The ferry to Tassie was a very ordinary travel experience to say the least.
PeterD said
03:43 PM Jan 12, 2016
I think the $2,000 fare is a generalisation, it's the fare for those who are not looking at optimising their fare. It's possibly the minimum for full fare paying passengers. There are three levels of fare. There is the Red Hot Fare which I have not investigated, it has a cancellation fee of 75% of the fare for prior cancellation. There is the Spirit Fare that has a 25% cancellation fee. Thirdly there is the Flexie Fare which has no cancellation fee. Read about them here.
I have done a dummy run on booking fees, do it yourself on this page scroll to the link at the bottom. My fares are based on a Navara D40 towing a van with an overall length of 7.2 m. The fare to Devonport is a day fare and the return is a night trip in a double inside cabin. Both are off peak for two pensioners. I have calculated both Spirit and Flexi Fares. I am going Spirit Fare as the 25% cancellation fee is $397.50 which is a bit less than the $608 difference between the two fares. Just open the .DOC file for the details.
I think the $2,000 fare is a generalisation, it's the fare for those who are not looking at optimising their fare. It's possibly the minimum for full fare paying passengers. There are three levels of fare. There is the Red Hot Fare which I have not investigated, it has a cancellation fee of 75% of the fare for prior cancellation. There is the Spirit Fare that has a 25% cancellation fee. Thirdly there is the Flexie Fare which has no cancellation fee. Read about them here.
I have done a dummy run on booking fees, do it yourself on this page scroll to the link at the bottom. My fares are based on a Navara D40 towing a van with an overall length of 7.2 m. The fare to Devonport is a day fare and the return is a night trip in a double inside cabin. Both are off peak for two pensioners. I have calculated both Spirit and Flexi Fares. I am going Spirit Fare as the 25% cancellation fee is $397.50 which is a bit less than the $608 difference between the two fares. Just open the .DOC file for the details.
Totally agree with PeterD. Do a dummy booking, and see when is the best time to travel, when is the best time to return, day or nigh sailing. We booked online 11 months prior to our departure from Melbourne. One month before we sailed, we rang to see if we could apply pension concession. They advised us that as we booked 11 months out, we actually got a better rate that we could one month before with concession. WE were able to upgrade at that stage from recliners to an inside cabin exclusive use for an extra $100.00. Our return journey was also booked 11 months out on line. We have since changed our booking extending by 2 months - no penalty.
It is a beautiful island, so much to see and do, we are here for 8 months, only been her for three so far, and getting worried that we may have to extend again. Definately has my vote as a grey nomad destination. Everyone is friendly (not just the GNs)
revemike said
04:54 PM Jan 12, 2016
I am booked to go to Tas on Sunday. I booked online 6 weeks ago. The total return fare for a 17ft Van towed by a Ranger with 2 persons is $1853.00 - I could have got it around $300 cheaper if we were to travel by day or wished to not have a cabin.
Fiery said
08:13 PM Jan 12, 2016
Hi Mike, may see you on the ship, we are booked on the same voyage! We are staying over their for 2 months, breaks the fare down to about $35 a day, I can live with that. I did look at hiring an RV but it is cheaper to take the van.
"Happy Sailing" Colin
revemike said
08:33 PM Jan 12, 2016
Fiery wrote:
Hi Mike, may see you on the ship, we are booked on the same voyage! We are staying over their for 2 months, breaks the fare down to about $35 a day, I can live with that. I did look at hiring an RV but it is cheaper to take the van.
"Happy Sailing" Colin
Hi Colin, we only have a short window of opportunity to spend time in Tasmania (28 days). We are just concentrating on the East Coast. An expensive fare for such a short time but our situation is such that we have to just 'suck it up' and pay it. We both grew up in Tas so we have already seen a great deal of it. We have lived in Victoria for 25 years and this is our first trip back for a holiday. Have been there for several family visits in the past 25 years.
look out for a Retreat and if you spot it say hi
Fiery said
09:29 PM Jan 12, 2016
Shall do Mike, we're in a Crusader, probably catch you in the queue, I hear can be slow at times.
Colin&Liz
Dunmowin said
09:35 PM Jan 12, 2016
Queue is is all part of the fun. We are here in a Kedron Caravan towed with a blue nissan patrol. Dunmowin and map on the back. (WE are here for eight month, five to go.) Enjoy.
I note the story on the Grey Nomad news re the the re-furbishment of the ferries. They state that passenger bookings are up some 15%. I would venture to say that their bookings would be up a lot more if the rate for caravans was not so high.
Bit out of my reach I'm afraid.
Al
Hi all;
We traveled over to Tassie last August 2015, special price as the spirits had just had a referb. That was our 3rd trip over. We had a cabin over and back, 2 adults, 2 small dogs and 12 mtrs of 4x4 and caravan ( pop top ). Cost about $ 1300.00 return, stayed for 1 month.
On other times when we have looked at going over the cost was again well, north of $2000.00 and this is before you have spent $1.00 in Tassie. Don't get me wrong we love Tassie and have even looked at living there. But have to agree maybe to get more people over is not to charge for the trailer/caravan.
Something for the been counters to think about !!!!
SWMBO has never been to Tassie and she wanted to go,we paid $1400 for return day fares,no cabin,no whistles
taking the Collie and pulling jayco poptop discovery and we will be there for 6 weeks.We hope to do a mixture of low
cost/free camping and caravan parks as well to "pay the fare over".
Happy Wife,Happy Life.
Waiting to get on & off the Spirit is a real drag! Wouldn't even consider taking our caravan over. Too many Asian tourists in hire cars driving on the wrong side of the road
Tassie is a delightful place to visit. I found that with the van, I rarely went over 80 km/h - not because it was unsafe to go faster, but simply because it is so much more relaxing. Even without the van, I rarely went over 90, and very few locals overtook me. Life is so much simpler there. I am sure that they have their problems as every other place has, but they don't surface like they do in outer Sydney and inner Melbourne.
lived here in Tassie for 50 years and have never seen an Asian tourist driving on the wrong side of the road
Perhaps DD meant the Asians were driving on the wrong side for them!
Like if they normally drive on the right and in Tassie they are driving on the left, then it would be the wrong side of the road. Or perhaps they come from Hong Kong and they drive on the left same as Australia does so maybe they are driving on the right and are on the wrong side.
Aww heck, now I'm confused. My head hurts. I think I will have a Bex and a lie down.
Which side of the bed should I be on?
The Phantom
Tassie is a great place, don't know how anyone could say "they have see it all" - there are heaps of places we didn't get to, mainly because the motorhome wouldn't have liked the windy roads - the ones we did do we ok - Elephant Pass, as long as no-one is coming the other way with a caravan. We loved the place, and if they would tow it up near Coffs Harbour, we could live there!!!!
Waiting for a special to come on sale at the moment. Last year 13m in July was approx $1600, this year approx $1800. I hope they don't get too busy, there may be no specials.
Gday...
I too would LOVE to spend time in Tassie - but at around $2,000 for the return journey to take the van I cannot see the value.
I can live for a LONG time on the mainland for $2,000. If I pay that for the ferry I will STILL have to pay all my living expenses while jaunting around the Apple Isle.
I am thinking of leaving my van somewhere and just going over with my 4x4 and tent for a month or so - using cabins from time to time if the weather gets awful - which is quite probable for Tassie - as bad as or worse than Victoria
That will be the only way I could possibly see value for money for a trip to Tassie.
Cheers - John
We're in Tassie now - MacIntosh Dam out west tonight (on way to Zeehan) no neighbours no $ just great.
I was coming over for RSL national Bowls carnival and that would have cost me $1500 for airfare and accom AND heaps for Booze if Iwas on my own, so wife and I are here with van for extra $500 ish, cabins both ways and 4 months in Tassie. Yes we are very lucky to be here.
Found some places a rip off but others just great. Found the best Park Ranger ever in Tassie = parks pass for our entire trip at good price.
People very friendly in parks etc and will be doing some free camping after we do the Gordon River and the Steam Train.
John ---- heaps of tenters in vehicles.
Heaps of good advice from locals on how to save $ etc. Very happy trip for us.
Must have been a bad fortnight, we almost wore half a dozen of 'em on our bulbar.
Understand that the TT Line shipping company that runs the ferries are sponsored/subsidised by the Tas Govt and as such deliberately price fares to stamp out anything that means you won't spend money in Tas.
Cheap for a car and person but taking a van means you have your own sleeping accomadation and therefor you won't be spending enough money in their hotels and motels and for that you will be penalised to balance out the subsidised passenger fares.
Current caravan rates are based on the total 'combination length' of vehicle and caravan for the vehicle fare, and then you add the passnger fare, and then you add the sailing accomadation fare.
Quite frankly, it plainly appears obvious that the Tas govt does not really want nomads, we don't spend enough.
Go talk to a trucking company, there are other ships that go there.
Maybe TT stands for Tasmanian Terrorist. Call Border Force or ASIO or whoever is in charge of conspiracies against Australians.
The Phantom
cheers
blaze
That doesn't seem to have happened as by all accounts, the charges have gone up this year
Gday...
Understand your drift blaze
However, I already "freedom" camp on the "big island to the north". So the $2,000 fare on the ferry goes a long way when I remain on the "big island".
Not sure if I am a tight arse or a bloody ratbag - and I thought I was a pretty positive sort of bloke who always wakes up with a smile .... 'specially when I wake up at a camp beside a creek in the bush on the "big island to the north" - and I still have $2,000 in my bank.
Interestingly six weeks in a van park @ $30/night would work out to $1,260 - so still cheaper than the ferry fare - IF I stayed on the "big island to the north" and stayed in van parks each night - rather than paid a ferry fare and free camped on the "little island to the south".
However, liked I said earlier, I would love to see Tassie - but I reckon I will just go over in the Landy and me tent and rough it for a month or so.
Cheers - John
I am also a landy tragic but without one atm, anyway if you do ever get over here let me know, some great spots up this way not many tourist get to see
cheers
blaze
Hypothetical!
Two travellers both in a similar vehicle towing similar vans, both in Melbourne. A decides to go to Hobart for a look costs a tad over $2000.00 return. Including fuel from Devonport/Hobart/Devonport 508klm.
B decides to go to Perth for a look cost approx. $2000.00 return for fuel alone AND He/She has to drive all the way. Fuel for 6850klm.
My last trip to each of these cities leaving from Brisbane were towing with a V6 petrol. I know which was the cheapest trip.
Mike
Hypothetical!
Two travellers both in a similar vehicle towing similar vans, both in Melbourne. A decides to go to Hobart for a look costs a tad over $2000.00 return. Including fuel from Devonport/Hobart/Devonport 508klm.
B decides to go to Perth for a look cost approx. $2000.00 return for fuel alone AND He/She has to drive all the way. Fuel for 6850klm.
My last trip to each of these cities leaving from Brisbane were towing with a V6 petrol. I know which was the cheapest trip.
Mike
We enjoyed our 15 nights staying in cabins, taking only our car to Tassie from Melbourne. This year we've booked an 18 night trip to Darwin, Kakadu, Top End etc. flying from Melbourne & hiring a car, staying at lodges, hotels & resorts. CHEAPER than our Tassie trip! A ''no brainer''! The ferry to Tassie was a very ordinary travel experience to say the least.
I think the $2,000 fare is a generalisation, it's the fare for those who are not looking at optimising their fare. It's possibly the minimum for full fare paying passengers. There are three levels of fare. There is the Red Hot Fare which I have not investigated, it has a cancellation fee of 75% of the fare for prior cancellation. There is the Spirit Fare that has a 25% cancellation fee. Thirdly there is the Flexie Fare which has no cancellation fee. Read about them here.
I have done a dummy run on booking fees, do it yourself on this page scroll to the link at the bottom. My fares are based on a Navara D40 towing a van with an overall length of 7.2 m. The fare to Devonport is a day fare and the return is a night trip in a double inside cabin. Both are off peak for two pensioners. I have calculated both Spirit and Flexi Fares. I am going Spirit Fare as the 25% cancellation fee is $397.50 which is a bit less than the $608 difference between the two fares. Just open the .DOC file for the details.
Totally agree with PeterD. Do a dummy booking, and see when is the best time to travel, when is the best time to return, day or nigh sailing. We booked online 11 months prior to our departure from Melbourne. One month before we sailed, we rang to see if we could apply pension concession. They advised us that as we booked 11 months out, we actually got a better rate that we could one month before with concession. WE were able to upgrade at that stage from recliners to an inside cabin exclusive use for an extra $100.00. Our return journey was also booked 11 months out on line. We have since changed our booking extending by 2 months - no penalty.
It is a beautiful island, so much to see and do, we are here for 8 months, only been her for three so far, and getting worried that we may have to extend again. Definately has my vote as a grey nomad destination. Everyone is friendly (not just the GNs)
I am booked to go to Tas on Sunday. I booked online 6 weeks ago. The total return fare for a 17ft Van towed by a Ranger with 2 persons is $1853.00 - I could have got it around $300 cheaper if we were to travel by day or wished to not have a cabin.
Hi Mike, may see you on the ship, we are booked on the same voyage! We are staying over their for 2 months, breaks the fare down to about $35 a day, I can live with that. I did look at hiring an RV but it is cheaper to take the van.
"Happy Sailing" Colin
Hi Colin, we only have a short window of opportunity to spend time in Tasmania (28 days). We are just concentrating on the East Coast. An expensive fare for such a short time but our situation is such that we have to just 'suck it up' and pay it. We both grew up in Tas so we have already seen a great deal of it. We have lived in Victoria for 25 years and this is our first trip back for a holiday. Have been there for several family visits in the past 25 years.
look out for a Retreat and if you spot it say hi
Shall do Mike, we're in a Crusader, probably catch you in the queue, I hear can be slow at times.
Colin&Liz
Queue is is all part of the fun. We are here in a Kedron Caravan towed with a blue nissan patrol. Dunmowin and map on the back. (WE are here for eight month, five to go.) Enjoy.