You can order the new Camps 8 online now with free delivery in early February , Retiring my Camp 4 , Camp is still worth having if you don't have internet in some places .
-- Edited by brickies on Thursday 22nd of January 2015 04:13:48 PM
Crockie said
05:49 PM Jan 22, 2015
brickies wrote:
You can order the new Camps 8 online now with free delivery in early February , Retiring my Camp 4 , Camp is still worth having if you don't have internet in some places .
-- Edited by brickies on Thursday 22nd of January 2015 04:13:48 PM
Hiya brickies. We have camps 7 and Wikicamps not sure if I want camps 8 with those two, I find wiki a whole lot better and cheaper that camps.
Sorry to rain on your parade mate.
Take care
brickies said
06:00 PM Jan 22, 2015
Yes we also have Wikicamps and found it great also , But on our last outback Queensland trip internet was found wanting and had to drag out our old Camps 4 to help out , So i can see the use for both and the camps includes the maps and hopefully the maps on Camps 8 will be more up to date
Crockie said
06:05 PM Jan 22, 2015
I found the same issue with camps 7. Maps tend to get out of date fast, I would be interested to hear what you think of camps 8. Cheers
brickies said
06:10 PM Jan 22, 2015
Will let you know , I have found it very hard to get up to date road maps even from RACQ , I often ring the local Police to ask for road advice for area I want to travel and have never got the short shift from them .
Santa said
06:14 PM Jan 22, 2015
We use a combination of Wikicamps and Camp 7, seems to work well.
Not sure we will buy Camps 8, the price tends to put me off, perhaps will wait for comments on the new edition.
brickies said
06:30 PM Jan 22, 2015
You can see we are only doing so because we are still using Camps 4 , Don't think I would up grade every 2 years .
Friar Park said
07:30 PM Jan 22, 2015
Brickies we currently use Camps7 and Wick I Before Camps7 we had 4. Knowing the difference we would definitely not buy 8 or 9 or 10. There would not be enough difference to justify the cost, and the cost is never be less than now.
Friar
jules47 said
09:01 PM Jan 22, 2015
We use Camps 7 and Wiki Camps - I have found some of the Wiki Camps postings are a bit confusing - and the co-ordinates are often not correct - so out comes Camps 7. Have decided we will get every second edition of Camps. Can go online and update. The cost of the Camps is justified when you realise that staying in two free camps, as against staying in two caravan parks has saved you the cost of the book, my opinion anyway.
vanman said
09:45 PM Jan 22, 2015
I usually buy every second edition of the Camps books and sell the old one on eBay. It helps reduce the cost of the new book although freight has increased a bit now. I also use Wiki camps which I find is good in conjunction with the Camps book.
Regards Chris
-- Edited by vanman on Thursday 22nd of January 2015 09:46:25 PM
Joe50 said
10:51 PM Jan 22, 2015
If you're a CMCA member there's a coupon code in this month's Wanderer magazine which will give you a $15 discount when you pre-order online.
Joe
peterblack said
07:02 AM Jan 23, 2015
hi all. I have camps book 6. I find it handy to use also have lent it to couple friends and some family members
also use the laptop with Google andGoogle maps enjoy
-- Edited by peterblack on Friday 23rd of January 2015 07:04:32 AM
Bruce and Bev said
11:39 AM Jan 23, 2015
we use both wikicamps and always get the current Camps book. We have pre-ordered it on-line, but after paying for it, got an email from "Mapworld" offering a discount deal. Mapworld is genuine - we bought our Hema7 GPS through them and although theyre Perth based, they do most of their business by on-line and postal. They've been in business for many, many years.
Of course Camps books are dear. Someone has to visit all these sites, do all the editing and assemble a very comprehensive book that is generally very accurate and then try to recover the costs and make a profit (yep - remember they are a business and need to make a profit to survive guys) to a smallish market. So don't say they are too dear - the price is very reasonable considering the work involved and the number they sell plus the on-line updates and email support.
Those of you that are whinging about how dear they are cheapskates who have no comprehension of operating a viable business. I bet some of you even take delight in freedom camps who ask for a gold coin donation and you don't....and then tell anyone who can be bothered listening to you how you didn't pay.
No doubt my rant here will be attacked, but a few of you (not all) will be like this and then whinge even more that gold coin donation camp areas and travel products like Camps close down!!!
Santa said
11:46 AM Jan 23, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
we use both wikicamps and always get the current Camps book. We have pre-ordered it on-line, but after paying for it, got an email from "Mapworld" offering a discount deal. Mapworld is genuine - we bought our Hema7 GPS through them and although theyre Perth based, they do most of their business by on-line and postal. They've been in business for many, many years.
Of course Camps books are dear. Someone has to visit all these sites, do all the editing and assemble a very comprehensive book that is generally very accurate and then try to recover the costs and make a profit (yep - remember they are a business and need to make a profit to survive guys) to a smallish market. So don't say they are too dear - the price is very reasonable considering the work involved and the number they sell plus the on-line updates and email support.
Those of you that are whinging about how dear they are cheapskates who have no comprehension of operating a viable business. I bet some of you even take delight in freedom camps who ask for a gold coin donation and you don't....and then tell anyone who can be bothered listening to you how you didn't pay.
No doubt my rant here will be attacked, but a few of you (not all) will be like this and then whinge even more that gold coin donation camp areas and travel products like Camps close down!!!
What a load of gobbledygook.
JayDee said
11:55 AM Jan 23, 2015
B&B Yes a lot of what you say is true, I do not see it as gobbledygook. Santa has every right to write his view ever it be so short.
The book price is fair. a couple of free camps and you are repaid in full. After all that is what the book is designed for.... Free and low cost camping, with recommendations to boot.
We always chip in for free camp sites where applicable, as we want these sight to be there next time we pass that way.
So to all the people out there, please play your part and drop a gold coin preferably the small size one as requested.
By the way we use the camp bible and wikicamp, and the good old campfire grapevine.
Jay&Dee
Dunmowin said
04:00 PM Jan 23, 2015
Bruce and Bev wrote:
we use both wikicamps and always get the current Camps book. We have pre-ordered it on-line, but after paying for it, got an email from "Mapworld" offering a discount deal. Mapworld is genuine - we bought our Hema7 GPS through them and although theyre Perth based, they do most of their business by on-line and postal. They've been in business for many, many years.
Of course Camps books are dear. Someone has to visit all these sites, do all the editing and assemble a very comprehensive book that is generally very accurate and then try to recover the costs and make a profit (yep - remember they are a business and need to make a profit to survive guys) to a smallish market. So don't say they are too dear - the price is very reasonable considering the work involved and the number they sell plus the on-line updates and email support.
Those of you that are whinging about how dear they are cheapskates who have no comprehension of operating a viable business. I bet some of you even take delight in freedom camps who ask for a gold coin donation and you don't....and then tell anyone who can be bothered listening to you how you didn't pay.
No doubt my rant here will be attacked, but a few of you (not all) will be like this and then whinge even more that gold coin donation camp areas and travel products like Camps close down!!!
B&B, I agree with your comments in relation to Camps Books. Yes, someone has visited all these sites, researched via various councils and shires the availability, costs, etc, then have to maintain their data base. As for Wiki camps, most comments there are, IMHO, written by backpackers, and sites have not really been researched - in fact, I believe many sites have been visited via Camps book, then added to Wikicamps. I really think the books are the best since sliced bread. I have had various editions since Camps 3 - update every two years. Even better now that you can download changes. I currently have Camps 7, and will upgrade when Camps 9 arrives. In the meantime, will download amendments regularly.
Roving-Dutchy said
09:34 PM Jan 23, 2015
If you are using Wikicamps there should be no need to be connected to the internet to use same, as long as you have updated the database and maps when you have a WI FI connection.
Cheers
David
Bruce and Bev said
10:29 AM Jan 24, 2015
Santa. I thought most on this site had agreed and got over making nasty comments about others posts - obviously you haven't - judging by the subsequent posts after yours, what I said was not gobbedlegook - or did I use words with too many letters in it or longer sentences than one word (like yours) which you found difficult to understand?
jules47 said
10:37 AM Jan 24, 2015
We actually met the people from Camps on their journey taking photos and updating info on sites, in NT, I think it was, last year - they take photographs and notes on a site, talk to some of the campers, and are happy to get suggestions of new camp spots. I think they do a fantastic job. Only once have I found the co-ordinates wrong, and we ended up on the wrong side of the river to the campsite! But we could see it - so took a drive and found it - no probs.
And B&B - you are right - isn't the old saying - if you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all!!!
-- Edited by jules47 on Saturday 24th of January 2015 10:52:49 AM
Santa. I thought most on this site had agreed and got over making nasty comments about others posts - obviously you haven't - judging by the subsequent posts after yours, what I said was not gobbedlegook - or did I use words with too many letters in it or longer sentences than one word (like yours) which you found difficult to understand?
G'Day Bruce or Bev?
In your post you make many assumptions ---
"Those of you that are whinging about how dear they are cheapskates who have no comprehension of operating a viable business. I bet some of you even take delight in freedom camps who ask for a gold coin donation and you don't....and then tell anyone who can be bothered listening to you how you didn't pay.
Seems its OK for you to call others cheapskates and know nothings, however don't like it when called to task.
As far as this little gem "did I use words with too many letters in it or longer sentences than one word (like yours) which you found difficult to understand?" is concerned, it was in fact the poor spelling and sentence construction I was referring to when I suggested it was gobbledygook.
Long, rambling, poorly spelled and disjointed sentences do not make for effective communication.
The ability to express ones self succinctly is the key to getting a message across.
rockylizard said
11:44 AM Jan 24, 2015
msg said
02:07 PM Jan 24, 2015
I had no problems understanding the long words a gobbledygook. I use both. Quite often the coordinates in Wiki are not accurate and prefer to enter them from camps book if it exists there.
Like Jules said " they take photographs and notes on a site, talk to some of the campers, and are happy to get suggestions of new camp spots. I think they do a fantastic job. "
brickies said
03:28 PM Jan 24, 2015
When we brought camps 4 we got the snaps one and when we order camps8 also went for the snaps worth the extra cost to see what the campsite looks like
03_Troopy said
06:12 AM Jan 25, 2015
+1 for Santa.
Bruce and Bev said
11:48 AM Jan 25, 2015
Thanks guys for mostly supporting my post on this thread.
Im not going to continue this on as its showing childish and petty behavior - something that we are now trying to avoid on this site after a bad 2nd half of 2014
PeterD said
01:22 PM Jan 25, 2015
peterblack wrote:
hi all. I have camps book 6.
Peter, if you wish to use it for a bit longer I suggest you download all the updates for it pronto. They drop off line as soon as CAW 8 is released.
Pejay said
05:33 PM Jan 25, 2015
Camps Bk #8 is due in stores 11 Feb.
brickies said
05:47 PM Jan 25, 2015
They are already taking orders online
Weevil said
12:27 AM Jan 26, 2015
PeterD wrote:
peterblack wrote:
hi all. I have camps book 6.
Peter, if you wish to use it for a bit longer I suggest you download all the updates for it pronto. They drop off line as soon as CAW 8 is released.
Each edition has free updates for 4 years, so this will expire for 6 like Peter says.
Anyone with Camps 7 will still have 2 years of online updates left to run once Camps 8 comes out.
woollie said
03:05 AM Jan 29, 2015
hi guys I was shy on buying 'camp 7 as we were newbies 8 months ago because of the cost but having used it each trip I am pleased to have it but wont buy the next one or maybe #9 owing to having a laptop and thanks to 'Maccas' we can plan our next couple of days travel while having a reasonable breakie
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You can order the new Camps 8 online now with free delivery in early February , Retiring my Camp 4 , Camp is still worth having if you don't have internet in some places .
-- Edited by brickies on Thursday 22nd of January 2015 04:13:48 PM
Hiya brickies. We have camps 7 and Wikicamps not sure if I want camps 8 with those two, I find wiki a whole lot better and cheaper that camps.
Sorry to rain on your parade mate.
Take care
I found the same issue with camps 7. Maps tend to get out of date fast, I would be interested to hear what you think of camps 8. Cheers
We use a combination of Wikicamps and Camp 7, seems to work well.
Not sure we will buy Camps 8, the price tends to put me off, perhaps will wait for comments on the new edition.
I usually buy every second edition of the Camps books and sell the old one on eBay. It helps reduce the cost of the new book although freight has increased a bit now. I also use Wiki camps which I find is good in conjunction with the Camps book.
Regards Chris
-- Edited by vanman on Thursday 22nd of January 2015 09:46:25 PM
Joe
hi all. I have camps book 6.
I find it handy to use also have lent it to couple friends and some family members
also use the laptop with Google andGoogle maps
enjoy
-- Edited by peterblack on Friday 23rd of January 2015 07:04:32 AM
Of course Camps books are dear. Someone has to visit all these sites, do all the editing and assemble a very comprehensive book that is generally very accurate and then try to recover the costs and make a profit (yep - remember they are a business and need to make a profit to survive guys) to a smallish market. So don't say they are too dear - the price is very reasonable considering the work involved and the number they sell plus the on-line updates and email support.
Those of you that are whinging about how dear they are cheapskates who have no comprehension of operating a viable business. I bet some of you even take delight in freedom camps who ask for a gold coin donation and you don't....and then tell anyone who can be bothered listening to you how you didn't pay.
No doubt my rant here will be attacked, but a few of you (not all) will be like this and then whinge even more that gold coin donation camp areas and travel products like Camps close down!!!
What a load of gobbledygook.
The book price is fair. a couple of free camps and you are repaid in full. After all that is what the book is designed for.... Free and low cost camping, with recommendations to boot.
We always chip in for free camp sites where applicable, as we want these sight to be there next time we pass that way.
So to all the people out there, please play your part and drop a gold coin preferably the small size one as requested.
By the way we use the camp bible and wikicamp, and the good old campfire grapevine.
Jay&Dee
B&B, I agree with your comments in relation to Camps Books. Yes, someone has visited all these sites, researched via various councils and shires the availability, costs, etc, then have to maintain their data base. As for Wiki camps, most comments there are, IMHO, written by backpackers, and sites have not really been researched - in fact, I believe many sites have been visited via Camps book, then added to Wikicamps. I really think the books are the best since sliced bread. I have had various editions since Camps 3 - update every two years. Even better now that you can download changes. I currently have Camps 7, and will upgrade when Camps 9 arrives. In the meantime, will download amendments regularly.
Cheers
David
We actually met the people from Camps on their journey taking photos and updating info on sites, in NT, I think it was, last year - they take photographs and notes on a site, talk to some of the campers, and are happy to get suggestions of new camp spots. I think they do a fantastic job. Only once have I found the co-ordinates wrong, and we ended up on the wrong side of the river to the campsite! But we could see it - so took a drive and found it - no probs.
And B&B - you are right - isn't the old saying - if you can't say anything nice, say nothing at all!!!
-- Edited by jules47 on Saturday 24th of January 2015 10:52:49 AM
G'Day Bruce or Bev?
In your post you make many assumptions ---
"Those of you that are whinging about how dear they are cheapskates who have no comprehension of operating a viable business. I bet some of you even take delight in freedom camps who ask for a gold coin donation and you don't....and then tell anyone who can be bothered listening to you how you didn't pay.
No doubt my rant here will be attacked"
You even admit that your post was in fact a "rant" http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/rant
Seems its OK for you to call others cheapskates and know nothings, however don't like it when called to task.
As far as this little gem "did I use words with too many letters in it or longer sentences than one word (like yours) which you found difficult to understand?" is concerned, it was in fact the poor spelling and sentence construction I was referring to when I suggested it was gobbledygook.
Long, rambling, poorly spelled and disjointed sentences do not make for effective communication.
The ability to express ones self succinctly is the key to getting a message across.
Like Jules said " they take photographs and notes on a site, talk to some of the campers, and are happy to get suggestions of new camp spots. I think they do a fantastic job. "
Im not going to continue this on as its showing childish and petty behavior - something that we are now trying to avoid on this site after a bad 2nd half of 2014
Peter, if you wish to use it for a bit longer I suggest you download all the updates for it pronto. They drop off line as soon as CAW 8 is released.
Each edition has free updates for 4 years, so this will expire for 6 like Peter says.
Anyone with Camps 7 will still have 2 years of online updates left to run once Camps 8 comes out.
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