i want to replace my battery drill and would like some information on the type to buy
should i go for a 10v or 18v battery drill and what difference does the voltage make
that is does the 18v have more power or does it last longer than a 10v
what battery should i look for 1.4ah or 4ah and what difference do the make
brian
SnowT said
05:47 PM Apr 19, 2014
hey Brian..
go 18v..
- The higher the voltage to better the quality of the drill..
-- 18v generally have a better power/torque
-- The higher the AH the more you can do with the charge..
Generally longer life..
Hope this helps you out..
Juergen
grae and deb said
05:51 PM Apr 19, 2014
hi brian i,ll try to help mate
i was a handyman tradie for a few years , and was allways told the bigger the a/h battery , the better , we used hitachi 18v 3.0a/h all day every day
every one has their favorite drill too , beware supermarket type drills , and look for quick charge time on batteries , all being said ,bunnings has good specials on makita sometimes and i have noticed recently aeg back on the market at their stores , bit of a mine field with bat drills really a lot too choose from , but also depends on what you need to do with the drill , ie just the occasional tek screw or pop rivet hole go for a makita 14v or similar
hope this helps
oldbobsbus said
06:05 PM Apr 19, 2014
The best measure of a drill is the price..
Pay peanuts get monkeys
I have been putting up with elcheapo drills for years till last year when they all gave me the sh*ts (4 and all had flat batteries)..
I went out and paid $390 for a Bosch and couldn't be happier....
2weis said
06:06 PM Apr 19, 2014
snowt /grae and deb
thank you exactly the type of information i am looking for
brian
03_troopy said
06:11 PM Apr 19, 2014
See if you can get one with Lithium Batteries too, they seem to last longer than NiCad. Sometimes different brands have offers of an extra battery to go with the drill. The last Makita I bought about 12 months ago did. I also agree with grae and deb's recommendation of Hitachi as well.
BTSV_Berni said
07:14 PM Apr 19, 2014
Would help if we know what you want to do with it.
Daily use ? I recommend Hitachi, Makita, Metabo or Bosch blue (Stay away of the green things....overpriced rubbish). For all you get spare parts easy and they are worth to be repaired "if" they fail however.
Have a Bosch blue 36V on my own and this thing dislocated the shoulder of one of my workmates who borrowed it for a "quick job". Endless power. A bit heavier than the other ones, but well balanced....a man's tool, a weapon. . But the guys I know using Hitachi, Makita or Metabo were very happy with their choice too. All working in construction business.
4 times a year ? Take what ever is the cheapest you can find. Before it can break the batteries will be gone anyway.
Regards, Berni
-- Edited by BTSV_Berni on Saturday 19th of April 2014 07:15:56 PM
2weis said
08:41 PM Apr 19, 2014
thanks everyone you have given me the information i need to make an informed decision
brian
aussie_paul said
08:41 PM Apr 19, 2014
People who use cordless drills to wind the van legs up and down, do you use 3/8" or 1/2" please?
Aussie Paul.
Sparkster said
09:08 PM Apr 19, 2014
I use my 13mm 12 volt 2 Ampere Hour Makita 2 speed plus percussion/hammer drill.
This drill is at least 5 years old but was top of the line when I bought it as it is used in electrical trades use.
This does my winding of legs and anything else it is needed for.
I always carry the charger with us but on six to eight week trips I have never needed to charge it.
If I was buying a new drill now I would buy the Makita again but in the largest AH available today, as this one was in its day.
If you are ONLY going to use it for winding the legs I don't think I would be buying the most expensive drill around but would stick to the better brands as already suggested in 13mm and the highest ampere hour rating you think fits your budget.
When I bought mine I included the matching torch with a spare battery. You can often wangle a deal like this for little extra particularly if you deal with a specialist tool shop.
I would also say that if you deal with a tool shop they will also recommend a drill most suited to your use. Whether you take their advice would be up to you of course.
Thirty years ago I used an old Skill Sher battery drill and it handled the leg winding easily so it doesn't have be a classy drill.
Good luck with your decision.
Keith....
Baz421 said
09:21 PM Apr 19, 2014
We've had a good run with Bosch 18V,, 2 speed 2 batteries packaged was a reasonable price. Drill now nearly 5 years old, used heaps but had to buy 2 new batteries recently. Stuck with NiCad as huge difference to Lithium.
A big plus is you can buy Bosch stuff in "specials" ie a package as we did or almost all separately and batteries/chargers interchangeable.
hako said
09:24 PM Apr 19, 2014
I'm going to be different. I use a 2 1/2 year old Ozito 12v 10mm (3/8) power drill from Bunnings with a 2 year warranty - comes with 2 batterys and they are lithium plus they run for hours. You can charge it in your car or caravan as it does not need 240v adaptor unlike 14v and 18v ones although it does come with the adaptor. Has fully variable speed plus manual speed change. Light weight and fits the hand good. Even shines a LED where you are about to drill. Dropped it in a pan full of dirty trans oil last week and it still works so they are tough. I use it for winding my van legs plus many other uses.
Best is the price - around $90 and if it buggers up in the 2 year warranty period you just take it back to Bunnings and you do not get grilled like at professional toolshops. I also have a 13mm Metabo and every time you stop the drill the chuck unwinds and the drill drops out.....$300 for European quality - took it back to the professional toolshop and they said they all do that and nothing they can do.
Remember the year is 2014....not 1984.
Sparkster said
09:43 PM Apr 19, 2014
I think Denis's story goes to confirm my statement that you don't necessarily need a "classy drill".
If you are going to use it for everyday trade use forget the cheapies.
Keith....
Baz421 said
10:03 PM Apr 19, 2014
hako wrote:
I'm going to be different. I use a 2 1/2 year old Ozito 12v 10mm (3/8) power drill from Bunnings with a 2 year warranty - comes with 2 batterys and they are lithium plus they run for hours. You can charge it in your car or caravan as it does not need 240v adaptor unlike 14v and 18v ones although it does come with the adaptor. Has fully variable speed plus manual speed change. Light weight and fits the hand good. Even shines a LED where you are about to drill. Dropped it in a pan full of dirty trans oil last week and it still works so they are tough. I use it for winding my van legs plus many other uses. Best is the price - around $90 and if it buggers up in the 2 year warranty period you just take it back to Bunnings and you do not get grilled like at professional toolshops. I also have a 13mm Metabo and every time you stop the drill the chuck unwinds and the drill drops out.....$300 for European quality - took it back to the professional toolshop and they said they all do that and nothing they can do. Remember the year is 2014....not 1984.
hako - reference the Matabo ,,, open the chuck jaws and look inside to see if the screw that holds the chuck in place is there,,, I think you'll find its not there.
aussie_paul said
10:18 PM Apr 19, 2014
Ok, thanks. I have an Ozito 10mm with 2 batteries. 4 years old. One battery was s***t very early on, now the second one does not hold its charge for very long, although certainly long enough to wind the legs. So, will see how that goes and either get new battery, recondition the battery myself or get a new "on special" package.
Aussie Paul.
Olley46 said
10:22 PM Apr 19, 2014
I am the the same as haco I bought a ozito twin pack $98.00 one drill one power driver,lithium batteries the power driver has given me $98.00 use already only had them about three months ,winds the legs up and down on the van with ease,thanks Mr Bunnings,included in the kit was Drill ,Power driver, drill bits ,driver bits ,Two batteries ,a charger ,and a carry bag,great value.
lance C
aussie_paul said
10:27 PM Apr 19, 2014
Olley46 wrote:
I am the the same as haco I bought a ozito twin pack $98.00 one drill one power driver,lithium batteries the power driver has given me $98.00 use already only had them about three months ,winds the legs up and down on the van with ease,thanks Mr Bunnings,included in the kit was Drill ,Power driver, drill bits ,driver bits ,Two batteries ,a charger ,and a carry bag,great value.
lance C
What voltage is that one Lance?
Aussie Paul.
hako said
10:42 PM Apr 19, 2014
Baz421 wrote:
hako - reference the Matabo ,,, open the chuck jaws and look inside to see if the screw that holds the chuck in place is there,,, I think you'll find its not there.
Thanks Baz - the screw is there - it's not the chuck that unwinds but the bit you put in the chuck - when you release the trigger on the drill, the brake stops the drill so quickly that the chuck outer part unwinds. A real bugger when you're on a roof and the nut driver falls out of the drill...again. Apart from that they are a solid drill with heaps of power and long lasting batteries....a bit heavy though for us old buggers to wield single handed.
I bought the two pack AEG lithium drill and socket type .. 18v has some torque ! Batteries are either charged or flat ! Charge fast also..
Olley46 said
02:26 PM Apr 20, 2014
aussie_paul wrote:
Olley46 wrote:
I am the the same as haco I bought a ozito twin pack $98.00 one drill one power driver,lithium batteries the power driver has given me $98.00 use already only had them about three months ,winds the legs up and down on the van with ease,thanks Mr Bunnings,included in the kit was Drill ,Power driver, drill bits ,driver bits ,Two batteries ,a charger ,and a carry bag,great value.
lance C
What voltage is that one Lance?
Aussie Paul.
Hi Aussie Paul here is a pic of what I bought. Both impact driver, and drill have a battery indicator and light.
Lance C
-- Edited by Olley46 on Sunday 20th of April 2014 02:31:58 PM
Thanks Lance, the old saying, "A pic is worth a thousand words" comes to mind.
Are the leg windup nuts the same size or vary from brand to brand? I would guess the legs all come from one or two suppliers. What is the size? 3/4"or 20mm etc? Too lazy to go outside and measure them!!!!
Aussie Paul.
Retreat said
04:48 PM Apr 20, 2014
aussie_paul wrote:
Ok, thanks. I have an Ozito 10mm with 2 batteries. 4 years old. One battery was s***t very early on, now the second one does not hold its charge for very long, although certainly long enough to wind the legs. So, will see how that goes and either get new battery, recondition the battery myself or get a new "on special" package.
Aussie Paul.
Our two batteries on the 18v B&D drill died, so we nipped the cord, cut off the bottom of the handle that the battery clips into and attached an anderson plug. Now with an extended anderson lead we can wind up the legs, drill landscaping screws into the ground to hold down annex matting, plus use it as a drill.
baysidetas said
06:31 PM Apr 20, 2014
I agree with SnowT.
If you are only going to use it for winding legs up and down then a mid range drill ill do the job.
If you have other uses for it then go for an 18 volt unit with Lithium 4.0 Amp hour (AH) batteries.
P.......d off with flat batteries that would not hold a charge I bought an AEG kit (drill, Impact driver, angle grinder and multi tool with three batteries.
It has already paid for itself several times over.
aussie_paul said
07:45 PM Apr 20, 2014
Can anyone tell me what the socket size is please?
Aussie Paul.
Sparkster said
07:51 PM Apr 20, 2014
19mm!
Are you intending to make your own? If so you can buy one already made and posed for about $20 on ebay.
I made my original one by cutting down a leg winder, in those days they could not be purchased.
Keith....
-- Edited by Sparkster on Sunday 20th of April 2014 07:57:28 PM
valiant81 said
08:05 PM Apr 20, 2014
Hi every body;
Battrey drills, i hade a ozito 12 Volt battery 10mm drill that came with 2 batterys , charger and a case to hold the lot. Now i payed $25.00 for that drill from a flea market, and used it every day for just over 12 years ......yes 12 years. Now i used to work ing the electronic repair industry and used it to dismantle vcr's and televisions. It was used every day by both me and some of the other tecks in the work shop, and we gave it a flogging, droped it on mainy occations and it just kept on going. now i would get about 2 days use befour the battery went flat and i mean flat. No problem changed over to the other battery that was in the charger 24/7 and just kept on working.
I had to repack the battery pack's at about 7~8 years with after market ni-cad's. Half the problem with the older battery packs is to have them on charge even when not in use.
Some of the early LG plasma televisions had about 60 odd screws......Just to get the back panel off, and another 30 odd screws if you had to replace the panel. Other manufactures are the same with the screw count, and let's not get in to some of the audio gear that is now on the market. So a battery drill was highly regarded as a essentual piece of gear in the work shop. In the end i ended up replaceing the battery pack and used a old computer power supply to run that drill.
So after about 12 months of have used the computer power supply and haveing a bit of chrismas money left, i purchesed a ryobi 1/2" drill with 2 battery packs and a charger and case. That lasted about 6 months befour the forward - reverse swith packed up. Took it back to Bunning and clamed warrentee,they were unable to change over , so i upgraded to the same type but a differant manufacture ( Makita ) and payed $100 more. This also has Lithium iron battery as did the ryobi and two years on the drill still is working like a new drill.
One of the othe drill that i've found are good is the Hitachi battery drill, the one that i had and used when i was installing television antennas had the useual 2 speed gear box, but also had the advantage of been used as a hamer drill. Only problem was the cost. About $650 and that was about 2 years ago. Great drill and i would oftern use that drill to drill holes in roof tyles. maybe a bit of an over kill if you just want to wind up/ down the caravan legs.
aussie_paul said
08:23 PM Apr 20, 2014
Sparkster wrote:
19mm!
Are you intending to make your own? If so you can buy one already made and posed for about $20 on ebay.
I made my original one by cutting down a leg winder, in those days they could not be purchased.
Keith....
-- Edited by Sparkster on Sunday 20th of April 2014 07:57:28 PM
Ok on the Ebay one and the size, thanks Keith. I have quite a box of sockets after many years of mechanical exploits. So I should be able to make something suitable. If not, Ebay here I come!!!
Aussie Paul.
Peter_n_Margaret said
08:35 PM Apr 20, 2014
If you have an inverter, forget battery drills.
240V drills are much cheaper and much better and lighter too.
Cheers,
Peter
Olley46 said
09:37 PM Apr 20, 2014
aussie_paul wrote:
Can anyone tell me what the socket size is please?
Aussie Paul.
Hi Aussie Paul
19mm I made an extension to reach the back wind down legs they are a long way under,if you are backed up close to something you can still operate the drill by laying on your side,the bit of garden hose on the shaft is to hang on to so you don't burn your fingers when in action,just weld a bit of reo on to a 19mm socket.
lance C
-- Edited by Olley46 on Sunday 20th of April 2014 09:41:14 PM
go 18v..
- The higher the voltage to better the quality of the drill..
-- 18v generally have a better power/torque
-- The higher the AH the more you can do with the charge..
Generally longer life..
Hope this helps you out..
Juergen
hi brian i,ll try to help mate
i was a handyman tradie for a few years , and was allways told the bigger the a/h battery , the better , we used hitachi 18v 3.0a/h all day every day
every one has their favorite drill too , beware supermarket type drills , and look for quick charge time on batteries , all being said ,bunnings has good specials on makita sometimes and i have noticed recently aeg back on the market at their stores , bit of a mine field with bat drills really a lot too choose from , but also depends on what you need to do with the drill , ie just the occasional tek screw or pop rivet hole go for a makita 14v or similar
hope this helps
The best measure of a drill is the price..
Pay peanuts get monkeys
I have been putting up with elcheapo drills for years till last year when they all gave me the sh*ts (4 and all had flat batteries)..
I went out and paid $390 for a Bosch and couldn't be happier....
thank you exactly the type of information i am looking for
brian
Would help if we know what you want to do with it.
Daily use ? I recommend Hitachi, Makita, Metabo or Bosch blue (Stay away of the green things....overpriced rubbish). For all you get spare parts easy and they are worth to be repaired "if" they fail however.
Have a Bosch blue 36V on my own and this thing dislocated the shoulder of one of my workmates who borrowed it for a "quick job". Endless power. A bit heavier than the other ones, but well balanced....a man's tool, a weapon.
. But the guys I know using Hitachi, Makita or Metabo were very happy with their choice too. All working in construction business.
4 times a year ? Take what ever is the cheapest you can find. Before it can break the batteries will be gone anyway.
Regards, Berni
-- Edited by BTSV_Berni on Saturday 19th of April 2014 07:15:56 PM
brian
People who use cordless drills to wind the van legs up and down, do you use 3/8" or 1/2" please?
Aussie Paul.
I use my 13mm 12 volt 2 Ampere Hour Makita 2 speed plus percussion/hammer drill.
This drill is at least 5 years old but was top of the line when I bought it as it is used in electrical trades use.
This does my winding of legs and anything else it is needed for.
I always carry the charger with us but on six to eight week trips I have never needed to charge it.
If I was buying a new drill now I would buy the Makita again but in the largest AH available today, as this one was in its day.
If you are ONLY going to use it for winding the legs I don't think I would be buying the most expensive drill around but would stick to the better brands as already suggested in 13mm and the highest ampere hour rating you think fits your budget.
When I bought mine I included the matching torch with a spare battery. You can often wangle a deal like this for little extra particularly if you deal with a specialist tool shop.
I would also say that if you deal with a tool shop they will also recommend a drill most suited to your use. Whether you take their advice would be up to you of course.
Thirty years ago I used an old Skill Sher battery drill and it handled the leg winding easily so it doesn't have be a classy drill.
Good luck with your decision.
Keith....
We've had a good run with Bosch 18V,, 2 speed 2 batteries packaged was a reasonable price. Drill now nearly 5 years old, used heaps but had to buy 2 new batteries recently. Stuck with NiCad as huge difference to Lithium.
A big plus is you can buy Bosch stuff in "specials" ie a package as we did or almost all separately and batteries/chargers interchangeable.
Best is the price - around $90 and if it buggers up in the 2 year warranty period you just take it back to Bunnings and you do not get grilled like at professional toolshops. I also have a 13mm Metabo and every time you stop the drill the chuck unwinds and the drill drops out.....$300 for European quality - took it back to the professional toolshop and they said they all do that and nothing they can do.
Remember the year is 2014....not 1984.
I think Denis's story goes to confirm my statement that you don't necessarily need a "classy drill".
If you are going to use it for everyday trade use forget the cheapies.
Keith....
hako - reference the Matabo ,,, open the chuck jaws and look inside to see if the screw that holds the chuck in place is there,,, I think you'll find its not there.
Ok, thanks. I have an Ozito 10mm with 2 batteries. 4 years old. One battery was s***t very early on, now the second one does not hold its charge for very long, although certainly long enough to wind the legs. So, will see how that goes and either get new battery, recondition the battery myself or get a new "on special" package.
Aussie Paul.
I am the the same as haco I bought a ozito twin pack $98.00 one drill one power driver,lithium batteries the power driver has given me $98.00 use already only had them about three months ,winds the legs up and down on the van with ease,thanks Mr Bunnings,included in the kit was Drill ,Power driver, drill bits ,driver bits ,Two batteries ,a charger ,and a carry bag,great value.
lance C
What voltage is that one Lance?
Aussie Paul.
Thanks Baz - the screw is there - it's not the chuck that unwinds but the bit you put in the chuck - when you release the trigger on the drill, the brake stops the drill so quickly that the chuck outer part unwinds. A real bugger when you're on a roof and the nut driver falls out of the drill...again. Apart from that they are a solid drill with heaps of power and long lasting batteries....a bit heavy though for us old buggers to wield single handed.
Regards
Hi Aussie Paul here is a pic of what I bought. Both impact driver, and drill have a battery indicator and light.
Lance C
-- Edited by Olley46 on Sunday 20th of April 2014 02:31:58 PM
Thanks Lance, the old saying, "A pic is worth a thousand words" comes to mind.
Are the leg windup nuts the same size or vary from brand to brand? I would guess the legs all come from one or two suppliers. What is the size? 3/4"or 20mm etc? Too lazy to go outside and measure them!!!!
Aussie Paul.
Our two batteries on the 18v B&D drill died, so we nipped the cord, cut off the bottom of the handle that the battery clips into and attached an anderson plug. Now with an extended anderson lead we can wind up the legs, drill landscaping screws into the ground to hold down annex matting, plus use it as a drill.
If you are only going to use it for winding legs up and down then a mid range drill ill do the job.
If you have other uses for it then go for an 18 volt unit with Lithium 4.0 Amp hour (AH) batteries.
P.......d off with flat batteries that would not hold a charge I bought an AEG kit (drill, Impact driver, angle grinder and multi tool with three batteries.
It has already paid for itself several times over.
Can anyone tell me what the socket size is please?
Aussie Paul.
19mm!
Are you intending to make your own? If so you can buy one already made and posed for about $20 on ebay.
I made my original one by cutting down a leg winder, in those days they could not be purchased.
Keith....
-- Edited by Sparkster on Sunday 20th of April 2014 07:57:28 PM
Hi every body;
Battrey drills, i hade a ozito 12 Volt battery 10mm drill that came with 2 batterys , charger and a case to hold the lot. Now i payed $25.00 for that drill from a flea market, and used it every day for just over 12 years ......yes 12 years. Now i used to work ing the electronic repair industry and used it to dismantle vcr's and televisions. It was used every day by both me and some of the other tecks in the work shop, and we gave it a flogging, droped it on mainy occations and it just kept on going. now i would get about 2 days use befour the battery went flat and i mean flat. No problem changed over to the other battery that was in the charger 24/7 and just kept on working.
I had to repack the battery pack's at about 7~8 years with after market ni-cad's. Half the problem with the older battery packs is to have them on charge even when not in use.
Some of the early LG plasma televisions had about 60 odd screws......Just to get the back panel off, and another 30 odd screws if you had to replace the panel. Other manufactures are the same with the screw count, and let's not get in to some of the audio gear that is now on the market. So a battery drill was highly regarded as a essentual piece of gear in the work shop. In the end i ended up replaceing the battery pack and used a old computer power supply to run that drill.
So after about 12 months of have used the computer power supply and haveing a bit of chrismas money left, i purchesed a ryobi 1/2" drill with 2 battery packs and a charger and case. That lasted about 6 months befour the forward - reverse swith packed up. Took it back to Bunning and clamed warrentee,they were unable to change over , so i upgraded to the same type but a differant manufacture ( Makita ) and payed $100 more. This also has Lithium iron battery as did the ryobi and two years on the drill still is working like a new drill.
One of the othe drill that i've found are good is the Hitachi battery drill, the one that i had and used when i was installing television antennas had the useual 2 speed gear box, but also had the advantage of been used as a hamer drill. Only problem was the cost. About $650 and that was about 2 years ago. Great drill and i would oftern use that drill to drill holes in roof tyles. maybe a bit of an over kill if you just want to wind up/ down the caravan legs.
Ok on the Ebay one and the size, thanks Keith. I have quite a box of sockets after many years of mechanical exploits. So I should be able to make something suitable. If not, Ebay here I come!!!
Aussie Paul.
240V drills are much cheaper and much better and lighter too.
Cheers,
Peter
Hi Aussie Paul
19mm I made an extension to reach the back wind down legs they are a long way under,if you are backed up close to something you can still operate the drill by laying on your side,the bit of garden hose on the shaft is to hang on to so you don't burn your fingers when in action,just weld a bit of reo on to a 19mm socket.
lance C
-- Edited by Olley46 on Sunday 20th of April 2014 09:41:14 PM
Howdy Peter
Tried the electric drill and nearly broke my wrist,I will stick with the battery ones.
Lance C