I have bought this item in ebay a 200 watt solar panel and it gives me 11 amps on full sun. I ordered another one today and there delivery is so quick by toll, I ordered of a Friday was at toll depot in Whyalla the next Wednesday Planning on another panel on my next pay, that will give me app 33 amps into my 2 x 270 amps batteries.
Easy and flexible installation for various applications
GUARANTEED 0-10W POSITIVE power output tolerance
Bypass diodes build in
Module with sturdy aluminum frame to withstand wind loads
Anti-reflective coating improves light absorption
Standard junction box with ultra reliable bypass diodes
Meeting highest international standards: ISO 9001 and ISO14001 and certified with TUV, IEC61215, IEC61730, CE and UL
Mono-Crystalline 200W
Size 1580 X 808 X 35 mm Weight 15.6Kg
Max Power Voltage - 18.7V Max Power Current -10.7A
Open Circuit Voltage - 22.6V Short Circuit Current - 11.1A
Module Efficiency 17.3% Number of Cells - 72
Tolerance Wattage + 0-10W
Cables Lenght -900mm
Allowable Hail Load - Steel ball falls down from 1M height
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Friday 11th of April 2014 11:56:56 AM
dorian said
12:40 PM Apr 11, 2014
The "allowable hail load" doesn't specify the size of the steel ball.
moamajohn said
01:24 PM Apr 11, 2014
I,ve had 3 mates purchase off this chap ,all very happy to date.Just waiting myself for some spare cash to get the 120W. for my tinny trips
graham (chickenman) said
02:23 PM Apr 11, 2014
Best price I could find being on the pension, ive ordered another one today expect it maybe next Wednesday, then I wont hardy have to use my 2 kva genny so much now.
At present it is over cast here getting 5.6 amps so a over cast day with 3 x 200 waters I would get at last 15 to 17 amps, full sun be app 33 amps. Also have done a bit of research here the Monocrystalline Module seems to be one of the best on the market as I see it.
Given up buying 2 nd hand 60 watt panels, ive still got one up on the van I be taking it down and put a hammer to it . also if your after good long life deep cycle batteries I got 2 from Qld 280 amp hour each was almost $1200.00 and I think they last up towards 10 years.
dorian maybe so, but ive done a bit of research on the Monocrystalline Module panels seems as if there real tuff glass? Anyway I am happy with my purchas
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Friday 11th of April 2014 02:30:43 PM
dorian said
03:37 PM Apr 11, 2014
I was curious, so I did a bit of research, too.
Apparently the IEC 61215 standard defines a Hail Impact Test Protocol. Clause 10.17 stipulates that the solar panel is to be impacted with "ice balls" at 11 different locations. The standard allows the manufacturer to test his panel against "hail stones" of 8 different sizes ranging from 12.5mm to 75mm. The mass and velocity of each ice ball are set by the standard, with the velocity being higher for the heavier balls (to match those terminal velocities typically found in nature).
AFAICT, most manufacturers choose to be certified against the 25mm ice balls. These have a mass of 7.53g and must strike the panel with a velocity of 23m/s, resulting in a kinetic energy of 1.85J.
A little more research would suggest that many manufacturers drop a 227g (= 0.5lb) steel ball from a height of 1m rather than using ice balls.
An object located at a height of 1m above the ground would have a potential energy given by ...
E = mass x g x 1m
This energy would be converted to kinetic energy when the ball hits the ground, so the kinetic of the steel ball would be ...
0.227 x 9.8 x 1 = 2.22 joules
Therefore ISTM that solar panel manufacturers are using a steel ball test that closely mimics the 25mm ice ball test. That is, a typical panel should withstand 1 inch hailstones.
oldbobsbus said
04:26 PM Apr 11, 2014
I have bought many panels off this seller, last week took delivery of one of the above panels at that price it is now powering the house batteries of the Hiace wizzbang we have just finished doing up to sell.
I also buy a lot of other stuff off him..
dING said
04:16 PM Apr 12, 2014
Have been following this thread
With interest as I have Been contemplating
Installing a 200 watt panel on the roof of
My Land Rover 110 County to run a small
Fridge (not yet purchased either) anyhow
Was/am thinking a 2oo watt panel and a AGM
100 amp battery would seem to be the recommended
Buts also a controller/regulator required its from on the same site e.g
NEW - MPPT Waterproof 10A Solar Controller Regulator 12V/24V Battery Charger
Your thoughts gratefully received
-- Edited by dING on Saturday 12th of April 2014 04:17:02 PM
oldbobsbus said
07:40 PM Apr 12, 2014
dING wrote:
Have been following this thread
With interest as I have Been contemplating
Installing a 200 watt panel on the roof of
My Land Rover 110 County to run a small
Fridge (not yet purchased either) anyhow
Was/am thinking a 2oo watt panel and a AGM
100 amp battery would seem to be the recommended
Buts also a controller/regulator required its from on the same site e.g
NEW - MPPT Waterproof 10A Solar Controller Regulator 12V/24V Battery Charger
Your thoughts gratefully received
-- Edited by dING on Saturday 12th of April 2014 04:17:02 PM
Yep that would work and without any problems you could add another 100ah battery if you so desired..
Happywanderer said
09:28 PM Apr 12, 2014
I am very tempted to order one of these. Would have to get it delivered to Emerald Queensland as that is my next port of call, then of course found someone there to fit it.
Does anyone know of a solar panel installer in Emerald?
Looked in yellow pages online, can't see any solar panel installers in Emerald, but a easy way to do it yourself is get a type of luggage rack, lay panel on top and make some brackets to hold it down.
As most times we get a warning of a hail storm, so I will get some thin foam rubber cut it to size for each panel put it over the panels and use jock straps to hold the foam rubber down, a easy fix I say
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:22:32 AM
graham (chickenman) said
10:57 AM Apr 13, 2014
Pic taken at 10.20 am of my amps off my 200 watter panel Sa time. Will take another pic at midday, and another pic at 2 pm. Pic was taken sunday 13 th april 2014 :)
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:10:00 AM
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:23:21 AM
Thanks Graham, have written all that down. Will have to measure my roof to see if it would fit and also get it installed professionally, as not capable of doing it myself.
graham (chickenman) said
01:13 PM Apr 13, 2014
Happy, maybe talk to a panel beater or ask at the Supcheap, or Repco store or maybe a auto electrician in Emerald on anyone who fit it for you? At a guess I say it be maybe a $200.00 job getting it fitted?
Thanks for that.
Have found a Campertrailer place who sells and installs solar panels in Emerald thanks to msg.
Will ring them tomorrow to get their prices and if they will install one I get in.
03_troopy said
05:59 PM Apr 13, 2014
graham (chickenman) wrote:
Pic taken at 10.20 am of my amps off my 200 watter panel Sa time. Will take another pic at midday, and another pic at 2 pm. Pic was taken sunday 13 th april 2014 :)
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:10:00 AM
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:23:21 AM
What was the sunshine situation at the time there Graham? overcast or clear skies?
graham (chickenman) said
08:07 AM Apr 14, 2014
Troppey, clear sky here but I think coming into winter we don't get the full rays off the sun? Last week I had just over 10 amps at midday.
graham (chickenman) said
08:12 AM Apr 14, 2014
Also I have noticed when its full sun with very high very thin cloud I get a lot more amps up to 3 amps more? I have asked a expert on solar he could not give me a answer. My guess is the very thin could may magify the suns rays? Maybe someone else knows the answer?
oldbobsbus said
08:15 AM Apr 14, 2014
Is the amps going to the battery important considering that the battery may be close to full and the reg is limiting the input..
The Voltage of the battery is the only important factor,
The voltage before full light and at the end of the day.
I like to see my batteries at around 13.6 of an arvo and around 12.8 early morning..
graham (chickenman) said
08:20 AM Apr 14, 2014
To much info here for this laim brain to work out, all Chinese or double Dutch to me
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Monday 14th of April 2014 08:46:08 AM
graham (chickenman) said
09:51 AM Apr 14, 2014
Oldbobsbus, same bob except I got 2 x 270 amp batteries, I run my tucker box freezer ad my bar fridge all night still got around 12.5 amps left early morning. Soon it be the elect blanket on my bed, it hardly uses any power over night on setting 1 or 2. Going to try using timer switches off the inverter, the bar frig on for a hour then off for 2 hrs and the same as my freezer. At a guess having 2 x 200 watt panels I should be able to put app 170 to 200 amps daily back into the batteries, upon being overcast its run the genny for 3 hrs with a 20 amp charger going. But in all I wont be using so much fuel in running my 2 kva generator, maybe get a 3 rd 200 watt panel be enough power amps are full the regular goes into float mode.
graham (chickenman) said
11:03 AM Apr 17, 2014
My 2nd 200 watter be arriving at Whyalla later this arvo
My 3 rd 200 watter panel be arriving by Toll in Whyalla tomorrow Thursday, hasn't been much sun here for app 4 days now, do need my 2 kva inverter genny to put some charge in my bank of batteries
Looking at forecast in my area looks overcast for maybe the next 5 days or so, so it be another 20 litres of fuel for the genny tomorrow:(
SnowT said
08:52 PM Apr 30, 2014
hey Graham about the good issue of better sun..
Nice Bright skies with high light streamers of cloud make for some of the best conditions, the high clouds help to reflect the sun back down from bounce..
Juergen
graham (chickenman) said
08:09 AM May 1, 2014
yes snow can bounce that amp meter around a extra 4 to 6 amps, oh overcast again to day
Ontos45 said
10:59 AM May 1, 2014
Thanks for the information graham, much appreciated.
graham (chickenman) said
04:16 PM May 1, 2014
Puff puff just put my 3 rd 200 watter panel up -600 watts in all, time now for a scotch n cola with ice
When it clears up here in about 5 days I be pumping in app 22 to 28 amps a a hour I guess, maybe more when its towards summer.
Will put a pic up tomorrow after bracing them all down to be secure.
I have bought this item in ebay a 200 watt solar panel and it gives me 11 amps on full sun. I ordered another one today and there delivery is so quick by toll, I ordered of a Friday was at toll depot in Whyalla the next Wednesday
Planning on another panel on my next pay, that will give me app 33 amps into my 2 x 270 amps batteries.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Solar-Panel-12V-200W-Monocrystalline-Module-House-Caravan-Boat-Off-Grid-Use-/271337730841?pt=AU_Solar&hash=item3f2cfd3319
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Friday 11th of April 2014 11:56:56 AM
Best price I could find being on the pension, ive ordered another one today expect it maybe next Wednesday, then I wont hardy have to use my 2 kva genny so much now.
At present it is over cast here getting 5.6 amps so a over cast day with 3 x 200 waters I would get at last 15 to 17 amps, full sun be app 33 amps. Also have done a bit of research here the Monocrystalline Module seems to be one of the best on the market as I see it.
Given up buying 2 nd hand 60 watt panels, ive still got one up on the van I be taking it down and put a hammer to it
. also if your after good long life deep cycle batteries I got 2 from Qld 280 amp hour each was almost $1200.00 and I think they last up towards 10 years.
http://www.aussiebatteriessolar.com.au/batteries/deep-cycle-agm/280ah-12v-agm-deep-cycle-battery
dorian maybe so, but ive done a bit of research on the Monocrystalline Module panels seems as if there real tuff glass? Anyway I am happy with my purchas
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Friday 11th of April 2014 02:30:43 PM
Apparently the IEC 61215 standard defines a Hail Impact Test Protocol. Clause 10.17 stipulates that the solar panel is to be impacted with "ice balls" at 11 different locations. The standard allows the manufacturer to test his panel against "hail stones" of 8 different sizes ranging from 12.5mm to 75mm. The mass and velocity of each ice ball are set by the standard, with the velocity being higher for the heavier balls (to match those terminal velocities typically found in nature).
See page 2 of this document:
www1.eere.energy.gov/solar/pdfs/pvmrw12_poster_si_uselton.pdf
AFAICT, most manufacturers choose to be certified against the 25mm ice balls. These have a mass of 7.53g and must strike the panel with a velocity of 23m/s, resulting in a kinetic energy of 1.85J.
A little more research would suggest that many manufacturers drop a 227g (= 0.5lb) steel ball from a height of 1m rather than using ice balls.
An object located at a height of 1m above the ground would have a potential energy given by ...
E = mass x g x 1m
This energy would be converted to kinetic energy when the ball hits the ground, so the kinetic of the steel ball would be ...
0.227 x 9.8 x 1 = 2.22 joules
Therefore ISTM that solar panel manufacturers are using a steel ball test that closely mimics the 25mm ice ball test. That is, a typical panel should withstand 1 inch hailstones.
I have bought many panels off this seller, last week took delivery of one of the above panels at that price it is now powering the house batteries of the Hiace wizzbang we have just finished doing up to sell.
I also buy a lot of other stuff off him..
Have been following this thread
With interest as I have Been contemplating
Installing a 200 watt panel on the roof of
My Land Rover 110 County to run a small
Fridge (not yet purchased either) anyhow
Was/am thinking a 2oo watt panel and a AGM
100 amp battery would seem to be the recommended
Buts also a controller/regulator required its from on the same site e.g
NEW - MPPT Waterproof 10A Solar Controller Regulator 12V/24V Battery Charger
Your thoughts gratefully received
-- Edited by dING on Saturday 12th of April 2014 04:17:02 PM
Yep that would work and without any problems you could add another 100ah battery if you so desired..
Does anyone know of a solar panel installer in Emerald?
Happy, try this site it may be of help to you? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+install+solar+panels+on+van
Looked in yellow pages online, can't see any solar panel installers in Emerald, but a easy way to do it yourself is get a type of luggage rack, lay panel on top and make some brackets to hold it down.
Or you can glue them down with this product ouch $35.00 a tube http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Solar-Panel-Bracket-Mounting-Adhesive-Suits-Vehicle-Roof-Caravan-4WD-Boat-/170923648835?pt=AU_Solar&hash=item27cbd7e743
Hope this helps you?
Also they deliver by Toll may check if there is a Toll in Emerald as they do not send to a Post office only a address you supply.
Yes there is a Toll in Emerald ------->
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 08:53:42 AM
As most times we get a warning of a hail storm, so I will get some thin foam rubber cut it to size for each panel put it over the panels and use jock straps to hold the foam rubber down, a easy fix I say
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:22:32 AM
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:10:00 AM
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Sunday 13th of April 2014 11:23:21 AM
Happy, maybe talk to a panel beater or ask at the Supcheap, or Repco store or maybe a auto electrician in Emerald on anyone who fit it for you? At a guess I say it be maybe a $200.00 job getting it fitted?
http://www.supercheapauto.com.au/store-locator/stores/Emerald.aspx?id=324
https://www.google.com.au/#q=repco+emerald
https://www.google.com.au/#q=auto+electrician+emerald+qld
Maybe get in contact with this person, http://www.localdirectories.com.au/Emerald,QLD/Scott-Black-Solar-Emerald/profile/H9eI
Have found a Campertrailer place who sells and installs solar panels in Emerald thanks to msg.
Will ring them tomorrow to get their prices and if they will install one I get in.
What was the sunshine situation at the time there Graham? overcast or clear skies?
Troppey, clear sky here but I think coming into winter we don't get the full rays off the sun? Last week I had just over 10 amps at midday.
Also I have noticed when its full sun with very high very thin cloud I get a lot more amps up to 3 amps more? I have asked a expert on solar he could not give me a answer. My guess is the very thin could may magify the suns rays? Maybe someone else knows the answer?
The Voltage of the battery is the only important factor,
The voltage before full light and at the end of the day.
I like to see my batteries at around 13.6 of an arvo and around 12.8 early morning..
To much info here for this laim brain to work out, all Chinese or double Dutch to me
http://earthsci.org/mineral/energy/solar/solar.html
-- Edited by graham (chickenman) on Monday 14th of April 2014 08:46:08 AM
Oldbobsbus, same bob except I got 2 x 270 amp batteries, I run my tucker box freezer ad my bar fridge all night still got around 12.5 amps left early morning. Soon it be the elect blanket on my bed, it hardly uses any power over night on setting 1 or 2. Going to try using timer switches off the inverter, the bar frig on for a hour then off for 2 hrs and the same as my freezer. At a guess having 2 x 200 watt panels I should be able to put app 170 to 200 amps daily back into the batteries, upon being overcast its run the genny for 3 hrs with a 20 amp charger going. But in all I wont be using so much fuel in running my 2 kva generator, maybe get a 3 rd 200 watt panel be enough power amps are full the regular goes into float mode.
online.toll.com.au/trackandtrace/consignmentDetails.do
My 3 rd 200 watter panel be arriving by Toll in Whyalla tomorrow Thursday, hasn't been much sun here for app 4 days now, do need my 2 kva inverter genny to put some charge in my bank of batteries
Looking at forecast in my area looks overcast for maybe the next 5 days or so, so it be another 20 litres of fuel for the genny tomorrow:(
Nice Bright skies with high light streamers of cloud make for some of the best conditions, the high clouds help to reflect the sun back down from bounce..
Juergen
yes snow can bounce that amp meter around a extra 4 to 6 amps, oh overcast again to day
Puff puff just put my 3 rd 200 watter panel up -600 watts in all, time now for a scotch n cola with ice
When it clears up here in about 5 days I be pumping in app 22 to 28 amps a a hour I guess, maybe more when its towards summer.
Will put a pic up tomorrow after bracing them all down to be secure.
Pic taken 4pm cst 1/05/2014 n/e of Whyalla.
Pic taken 4pm cst 1/05/2014 n/e of Whyalla.