The 3 Steps to Weight Loss Without Exercise - Successful strategies to change you approach to eating...
Duh said
05:11 AM Nov 9, 2013
I was given this today by a heart specialist to help me lose weight. I am going to do my best to follow this advice.
Please note this is not saying don't exercise, just that you can lose weight without it, would be especially handy for those who can't exercise because of physical problems. The specialist also said that the idea that you need to eat a large breakfast is a myth, and even just a cup of coffee in the morning could be enough, and eat your cereal for lunch.
Yes I do remember Beth, SWMBO has AF, both of us basket cases (SWMBO and me) I reckon....
Good points Gerty, I hate it when people give you biscuits or chocolates for presents. Lady across the road keeps giving me Roche chocolates for little jobs I do for her, won't take no for an answer.......my favourite chocolate........not saying what happens to them.
-- Edited by Duh on Sunday 10th of November 2013 02:10:00 AM
Beth54 said
12:54 AM Nov 10, 2013
I've had weight issues for many years. I've yo yo'd a lot, but never went on a 'diet' as such. I basically followed the same as you've posted Duh. I'm a mood/stress eater, so it's always been a struggle.
Through many of those years I went to a weight reduction club where I learnt a lot. Some people used to laugh because I only ever got to my goal weight once, but I figured, at least I was keeping an eye on it and had support from fellow 'fatties'.
I find the best way for me is to just cut down on the bad stuff. I've lost 10kg, the first 5 without even realising it, the second 5 by cutting out lollies and chocolate. I've always been a lollie-aholic.
Re: exercise,,,I've had a bad year healthwise, so haven't been able to walk as much as I used to. I swim when the weather permits, but that's the only other exercise I do.
Thankfully my health has picked up lately so hopefully I'll get some muscle back soon and be able to get out there.
Duh said
01:04 AM Nov 10, 2013
I am also a lover of "comfort food" Beth, most of the food I love is on the no no list and I don't always know when to stop.
Having dropped from 118kgs to 111kgs, according to my heart doc if I can drop to 105kgs it will be a lot better for my health and also I will feel better, then if I reach that goal I can go from there.
See what happens. I had a nice meal last night, halved it so half was for the next night, but being my worst enemy couldn't resist eating the other half, so not a good start, LOL !
Beth54 said
01:23 AM Nov 10, 2013
I'm hoping to get off my heart meds if I lose another 20kg. At least I see that as achievable. It looks like I'm stuck with the Ulcerative Colitis meds though.
Duh said
01:27 AM Nov 10, 2013
Good luck with that Beth, I am also taking heart meds, the tried an op (ablation) but it didn't work, so stuck on meds now for the remainder of my life (Tachy Cardia).
At least if you can eliminate one med that is one less you will have to take.
Beth54 said
02:14 AM Nov 10, 2013
I remember us having a conversation about Tachycardia. I had it several years ago too, if you remember, and the ablation worked for me. But earlier this year, I acquired Atrial Fibrillation. I believe the ablation can work for this too, but as I'm in the public system, and things have gotten tight, I doubt I'll be offered that again.
The Cardiologist hinted that weight reduction would help. He was very kind about the way he said it. haha
Gerty Dancer said
03:10 AM Nov 10, 2013
I reckon these weight-loss techniques are pretty good, have implemented some of them for quite a few years and I think its been successful.
In particular don't keep unhealthy/fattening foods in the house... its a waste if you don't want to eat it and a guilt-trip if you do.
Gerty Dancer said
06:34 AM Nov 10, 2013
Actually chocolate is easy to give/throw away for me Vic... it gives me dreadful headaches! Difficult to stop people giving stuff you cant have though... You could straight out say you'd prefer fruit or whatever, I've done that, but gotta give a good explanation, and ask for her help with your health problem.
Hope your weight loss helps you feel better, any less pills to take has to be a bonus
Duh said
10:09 AM Nov 10, 2013
Thanks Gerty,
I wish I could say the same about chocolate, will have a talk to my benefactor. He He....
countryroad said
11:50 AM Nov 10, 2013
Oh dear sounds like we're all in a similar boat.
I'm on a plan, get 5 visits, so 1 to the dietitian and 4 to exercise person. I did say to dietician about the chocolate milkshake
I have a chocolate milkshake for breakfast, ........Isowhey Complete...... 200ml low fat/skim milk 1 measure of the double chocolate powder add about 5 or 6 ice cubes ( Crushed ) and blend with a stick mixer until looking thick and creamy. Then sip slowly.
Filling...if you sip it slowly remembering your brain needs 20 minutes to get the message that you're no longer hungry. If no stick mixer then whip somehow as makes it creamy tasting rather than the shaker thing you can buy.
Under 2 g of sugar and saturated fat 0.8g. protein 15.8g Comes in a white plastic tub. Also comes in French vanilla, berry, banana, but the chocolate is lovely, so you don't need to feel deprived you can have chocolate. I bought it from Chemist Warehouse,
Most of the other brands have high sugar content. Over 10 g. per serve. I spent a lot of time reading the ingredients etc of every brand they had and they had quite a few.
Duh said
08:26 PM Nov 10, 2013
countryroad wrote:
Oh dear sounds like we're all in a similar boat.
I'm on a plan, get 5 visits, so 1 to the dietitian and 4 to exercise person. I did say to dietician about the chocolate milkshake
I have a chocolate milkshake for breakfast, ........Isowhey Complete...... 200ml low fat/skim milk 1 measure of the double chocolate powder add about 5 or 6 ice cubes ( Crushed ) and blend with a stick mixer until looking thick and creamy. Then sip slowly.
Filling...if you sip it slowly remembering your brain needs 20 minutes to get the message that you're no longer hungry. If no stick mixer then whip somehow as makes it creamy tasting rather than the shaker thing you can buy.
Under 2 g of sugar and saturated fat 0.8g. protein 15.8g Comes in a white plastic tub. Also comes in French vanilla, berry, banana, but the chocolate is lovely, so you don't need to feel deprived you can have chocolate. I bought it from Chemist Warehouse,
Most of the other brands have high sugar content. Over 10 g. per serve. I spent a lot of time reading the ingredients etc of every brand they had and they had quite a few.
Thanks for the tip Country Road, never knew about the 20 minutes brain recognition, handy to know.
pambaz said
10:08 PM Nov 17, 2013
We have been on a diet for 12 weeks. Baz had to lose weight because of his knees and I needed to lose about 7kilos so went on it with him.
Baz's diet is through Bupa for people with osteoarthritis. They supply you with a monitored program of milk shakes and soups. It has proved successful for Baz, he has lost 20 ks and still needs to lose some more weight but he has done very very well. I just bought Fatblaster for myself. I have lost 6 kilos. I am finding my weight is a lot slower coming off but Baz is losing it fast.
We have a milkshake and berries for breakfast, sometimes I put the berries in the shake and blend.By berries I mean blueberries, raspberries and strawberries.
We eat salad and soup for lunch and a normal meal for dinner ( in smaller serves). We do not eat bread, cakes,soft drinks,lollies or anything junky. It's just not in the house. I haven't bought a loaf of bread for 12 weeks. I buy lots of berries and fruit. We eat at least 4 serves of vegetables a day. Drink 2 litres water every day.
It was not hard as we really don't feel hungry and Baz is feeling a lot better for it. His knees prevent him from walking long distances but he is now able to move around a lot better and attempts small walks. He has become quite vigilant about his diet. It can only get better. For every kilo you lose it's 4 kilos of weight off your knees.
The only problem is we are going on a cruise this week so that is going to be a challenge. Will just eat and enjoy and get straight back on the diet when we come home.
Pam
-- Edited by pambaz on Sunday 17th of November 2013 10:16:08 PM
Grams said
10:12 PM Nov 17, 2013
I also need to loose weight, but I can't exercise as any exercise causes Angina....catch 22.
I have been eating less for years, I eat half of what Les does. So instead of having 2 sausages, 2 cups of mashed potatoes, veggies and gravy with onion...I have 1 sausage, 1 cup of mashed potatoes, veggies and only a little gravy and onion. I drink a flavoured soy drink (250ml) for breakfast. I have only 1 sandwich for lunch, and half a serve of dinner. Hasn't helped the weight though.
Being a Type 1 Diabetic, I used to eat Breakfast, Mid morning snack, Lunch, Mid afternoon snack, Dinner and pre-bed snack. Years ago with the specialists approval I dropped all the snacks and now just have 3 meals.
I did start doing some light stomach crunches about a month or so ago, and I weighed myself this morning....I have lost 4kg...so YAH!
I want to start walking, but I have to take everything slowly. But I will get there.
Grams
PS for those wanting to eat less, use a smaller plate, it tricks the mind into thinking you are getting a bigger meal....it does work.
Gerty Dancer said
11:05 PM Nov 17, 2013
I know a couple of people who found that drinking a full glass of water before meals made them feel full, so they ate less, equals lost weight.
If its that easy I don't know why every magazine doesn't publish it?
Grams said
11:21 PM Nov 17, 2013
I think its because none of the easy simple ways cost us money and they don't make money for all these quick weight loss company's.
Grams
copper1 said
12:03 AM Nov 18, 2013
Weight loss is a hard thing I went on those powdered milk shakes for 8 months after my heart attack and lost 34 kg but like everything slipped back into old habits and have put back on 17kg worst thing I love food but have to eat less and do more.
TAJ said
03:31 AM Nov 20, 2013
early this year changed my lifestyle my own decision not medical drink 2 glasses water walk for 1 hour
another glass of water plate of cereals 2 fried eggs on toast mid morning hand full of nuts lunch ham
salad sand ,coffee mid afternoon 2 pieces of fruit a glass of water dinner time chicken or lamb salad or vegs
only half serve coffee after and 1choc bisc blood pressure tabs take 10mg now was 20 lost 10 kg in 10 mnths
here is the good part no alcohol suger salt gone from 83kgs down to 73 and love the change
suenray
Duh said
11:24 AM Nov 26, 2013
Cruskets or Kruskets can be used as a substitute for bread, very tasty with cheese and tomato on them, don't eat too many though....
Gerty Dancer said
09:23 AM Nov 29, 2013
Duh, try having the lowest-fat Philly (5%) spread on them with your tomato... got protein with less cholesterol, and tastes pretty good.
Duh said
08:44 PM Dec 5, 2013
Gerty Dancer wrote:
Duh, try having the lowest-fat Philly (5%) spread on them with your tomato... got protein with less cholesterol, and tastes pretty good.
Thanks Gerty, will give it a go, nothing to lose except hopefully some fat!
Bryan said
07:39 PM Dec 8, 2013
Just read this now for the first time Vic. Looks like we see the same guy.
I'm trying to be good and stick to mine but having great difficulties.
pambaz said
09:03 PM Dec 8, 2013
Well the cruise is over and Baz has gained a couple kilos. Back on the diet today . He puts it down to eating the beautiful freshly baked bread that we had every meal. Bread is just NO good for you. Seeing we hadn't had any for three months before the cruise.
I had my 6monthly thyroid test before we left and Dr said it was a tad over active, she adjusted my oroxine and even though I ate myself silly on the cruise I actually lost a kilo. Go figure!!
Seems it was my thyroid causing me to put on weight. I am still sticking to the diet to give Baz some encouragement
Vic41 said
11:00 AM Dec 9, 2013
Good luck with the diet PamBaz, build on the losses you've already had, good you lost weight.
Bryan, very possible the same bloke, being laid up at the moment hard to concentrate on diet but not for the lack of trying!!
The dog lady said
01:56 AM Dec 20, 2013
Just give up everything that's fun and only eat what's healthy. You may not live to be 100 but it will feel like it
Gerty Dancer said
02:25 PM Dec 23, 2013
You have set me thinking about this Dog Lady.
Some people actually enjoy and prefer foods that you would consider "healthy" such as fresh fruit instead of sticky cakes, and I wonder if it is genetic? Are we born this way??? If we enjoy healthy foods, then there's never a feeling of "giving up fun stuff"... so how do you change your taste?
You can alter your preferences a bit, for example after 3 weeks of having no sugar in my tea I cant stand it any more with sugar, but how to change everything 180 degrees all at once?
-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Monday 23rd of December 2013 02:32:02 PM
The dog lady said
11:57 PM Dec 28, 2013
My comment was tongue-in-cheek and based on an old joke. But seriously, I classify a lot of "healthy" foods as fun too. Love grapes and cream cake equally. My all time favourite food would have to be cheese and I don't know if that would be classified as healthy. I just know that I have already outlived family and friends who were much more concerned about this than I have ever been. And if it's for the sake of how you look, well, I never had any problem attracting husbands when I wanted them
native pepper said
06:17 PM Dec 31, 2013
If you remove dairy products, processed foods, red meats and non organic products, life and health becomes a breeze. Anyone who has travelled the world will tell you non diary and meat dishes are hundreds of times more delicious than anything with meat, salt or diaries.
I received a life prognosis of 18 months when 26, had two alternatives, put myself in the hands of the medical profession, whose track record was and is dismal. Or take control of my life and try to create the environment where my body could survive and hopefully repair itself.
I'm 68, outlived just about everyone, especially all those who gave themselves to the medical profession and called me a fool for not adhering to their dictates and physical and psychological torture. Underwent time at peter Mc Callum clinic, horrible experience and decided I'd rather die than be subject to such horrendous torture, with no guarantee of anything, but a big bill at the end.
You want good health, then you have to create the right environment for it to happen. You wouldn't put petrol in your radiator, or water in your sump. Our bodies are biological machines and require specific fuels and maintenance to function and give good service, [put in rubbish and you get rubbish outcomes. Losing weight is easy if you eat the right foods and aren't addicted to debilitating chemically saturated junk.
No need to be fanatical, just consume the right diet, make sure you exercise as much as you can and that can be done in a wheel chair.
Gerty Dancer said
08:46 PM Dec 31, 2013
Heres an inspirational vegan lady mentioned in "I Digress"...
I was given this today by a heart specialist to help me lose weight. I am going to do my best to follow this advice.
Please note this is not saying don't exercise, just that you can lose weight without it, would be especially handy for those who can't exercise because of physical problems. The specialist also said that the idea that you need to eat a large breakfast is a myth, and even just a cup of coffee in the morning could be enough, and eat your cereal for lunch.
Yes I do remember Beth, SWMBO has AF, both of us basket cases (SWMBO and me) I reckon....
Good points Gerty, I hate it when people give you biscuits or chocolates for presents. Lady across the road keeps giving me Roche chocolates for little jobs I do for her, won't take no for an answer.......my favourite chocolate........not saying what happens to them.
-- Edited by Duh on Sunday 10th of November 2013 02:10:00 AM
I've had weight issues for many years. I've yo yo'd a lot, but never went on a 'diet' as such. I basically followed the same as you've posted Duh. I'm a mood/stress eater, so it's always been a struggle.
Through many of those years I went to a weight reduction club where I learnt a lot. Some people used to laugh because I only ever got to my goal weight once, but I figured, at least I was keeping an eye on it and had support from fellow 'fatties'.
I find the best way for me is to just cut down on the bad stuff. I've lost 10kg, the first 5 without even realising it, the second 5 by cutting out lollies and chocolate. I've always been a lollie-aholic.
Re: exercise,,,I've had a bad year healthwise, so haven't been able to walk as much as I used to. I swim when the weather permits, but that's the only other exercise I do.
Thankfully my health has picked up lately so hopefully I'll get some muscle back soon and be able to get out there.
I am also a lover of "comfort food" Beth, most of the food I love is on the no no list and I don't always know when to stop.
Having dropped from 118kgs to 111kgs, according to my heart doc if I can drop to 105kgs it will be a lot better for my health and also I will feel better, then if I reach that goal I can go from there.
See what happens. I had a nice meal last night, halved it so half was for the next night, but being my worst enemy couldn't resist eating the other half, so not a good start, LOL !
I'm hoping to get off my heart meds if I lose another 20kg. At least I see that as achievable. It looks like I'm stuck with the Ulcerative Colitis meds though.
Good luck with that Beth, I am also taking heart meds, the tried an op (ablation) but it didn't work, so stuck on meds now for the remainder of my life (Tachy Cardia).
At least if you can eliminate one med that is one less you will have to take.
I remember us having a conversation about Tachycardia. I had it several years ago too, if you remember, and the ablation worked for me. But earlier this year, I acquired Atrial Fibrillation. I believe the ablation can work for this too, but as I'm in the public system, and things have gotten tight, I doubt I'll be offered that again.
The Cardiologist hinted that weight reduction would help. He was very kind about the way he said it. haha
In particular don't keep unhealthy/fattening foods in the house... its a waste if you don't want to eat it and a guilt-trip if you do.
Hope your weight loss helps you feel better, any less pills to take has to be a bonus
Thanks Gerty,
I wish I could say the same about chocolate, will have a talk to my benefactor. He He....
I'm on a plan, get 5 visits, so 1 to the dietitian and 4 to exercise person. I did say to dietician about the chocolate milkshake
I have a chocolate milkshake for breakfast, ........Isowhey Complete...... 200ml low fat/skim milk 1 measure of the double chocolate powder add about 5 or 6 ice cubes ( Crushed ) and blend with a stick mixer until looking thick and creamy. Then sip slowly.
Filling...if you sip it slowly remembering your brain needs 20 minutes to get the message that you're no longer hungry. If no stick mixer then whip somehow as makes it creamy tasting rather than the shaker thing you can buy.
Under 2 g of sugar and saturated fat 0.8g. protein 15.8g Comes in a white plastic tub. Also comes in French vanilla, berry, banana, but the chocolate is lovely, so you don't need to feel deprived you can have chocolate. I bought it from Chemist Warehouse,
Most of the other brands have high sugar content. Over 10 g. per serve. I spent a lot of time reading the ingredients etc of every brand they had and they had quite a few.
Thanks for the tip Country Road, never knew about the 20 minutes brain recognition, handy to know.
We have been on a diet for 12 weeks. Baz had to lose weight because of his knees and I needed to lose about 7kilos so went on it with him.
Baz's diet is through Bupa for people with osteoarthritis. They supply you with a monitored program of milk shakes and soups. It has proved successful for Baz, he has lost 20 ks and still needs to lose some more weight but he has done very very well. I just bought Fatblaster for myself. I have lost 6 kilos. I am finding my weight is a lot slower coming off but Baz is losing it fast.
We have a milkshake and berries for breakfast, sometimes I put the berries in the shake and blend.By berries I mean blueberries, raspberries and strawberries.
We eat salad and soup for lunch and a normal meal for dinner ( in smaller serves). We do not eat bread, cakes,soft drinks,lollies or anything junky. It's just not in the house. I haven't bought a loaf of bread for 12 weeks. I buy lots of berries and fruit. We eat at least 4 serves of vegetables a day. Drink 2 litres water every day.
It was not hard as we really don't feel hungry and Baz is feeling a lot better for it. His knees prevent him from walking long distances but he is now able to move around a lot better and attempts small walks. He has become quite vigilant about his diet. It can only get better. For every kilo you lose it's 4 kilos of weight off your knees.
The only problem is we are going on a cruise this week so that is going to be a challenge. Will just eat and enjoy and get straight back on the diet when we come home.
Pam
-- Edited by pambaz on Sunday 17th of November 2013 10:16:08 PM
I have been eating less for years, I eat half of what Les does. So instead of having 2 sausages, 2 cups of mashed potatoes, veggies and gravy with onion...I have 1 sausage, 1 cup of mashed potatoes, veggies and only a little gravy and onion. I drink a flavoured soy drink (250ml) for breakfast. I have only 1 sandwich for lunch, and half a serve of dinner. Hasn't helped the weight though.
Being a Type 1 Diabetic, I used to eat Breakfast, Mid morning snack, Lunch, Mid afternoon snack, Dinner and pre-bed snack. Years ago with the specialists approval I dropped all the snacks and now just have 3 meals.
I did start doing some light stomach crunches about a month or so ago, and I weighed myself this morning....I have lost 4kg...so YAH!
I want to start walking, but I have to take everything slowly. But I will get there.
Grams
PS for those wanting to eat less, use a smaller plate, it tricks the mind into thinking you are getting a bigger meal....it does work.
If its that easy I don't know why every magazine doesn't publish it?
Grams
Weight loss is a hard thing I went on those powdered milk shakes for 8 months after my heart attack and lost 34 kg but like everything slipped back into old habits and have put back on 17kg
worst thing I love food but have to eat less and do more.
early this year changed my lifestyle my own decision not medical drink 2 glasses water walk for 1 hour
another glass of water plate of cereals 2 fried eggs on toast mid morning hand full of nuts lunch ham
salad sand ,coffee mid afternoon 2 pieces of fruit a glass of water dinner time chicken or lamb salad or vegs
only half serve coffee after and 1choc bisc blood pressure tabs take 10mg now was 20 lost 10 kg in 10 mnths
here is the good part no alcohol suger salt gone from 83kgs down to 73 and love the change
suenray
Cruskets or Kruskets can be used as a substitute for bread, very tasty with cheese and tomato on them, don't eat too many though....
Thanks Gerty, will give it a go, nothing to lose except hopefully some fat!
I'm trying to be good and stick to mine but having great difficulties.
I had my 6monthly thyroid test before we left and Dr said it was a tad over active, she adjusted my oroxine and even though I ate myself silly on the cruise I actually lost a kilo. Go figure!!
Seems it was my thyroid causing me to put on weight. I am still sticking to the diet to give Baz some encouragement
Bryan, very possible the same bloke, being laid up at the moment hard to concentrate on diet but not for the lack of trying!!
Just give up everything that's fun and only eat what's healthy. You may not live to be 100 but it will feel like it
You have set me thinking about this Dog Lady.
Some people actually enjoy and prefer foods that you would consider "healthy" such as fresh fruit instead of sticky cakes, and I wonder if it is genetic? Are we born this way??? If we enjoy healthy foods, then there's never a feeling of "giving up fun stuff"... so how do you change your taste?
You can alter your preferences a bit, for example after 3 weeks of having no sugar in my tea I cant stand it any more with sugar, but how to change everything 180 degrees all at once?
-- Edited by Gerty Dancer on Monday 23rd of December 2013 02:32:02 PM
My comment was tongue-in-cheek and based on an old joke. But seriously, I classify a lot of "healthy" foods as fun too. Love grapes and cream cake equally
. My all time favourite food would have to be cheese and I don't know if that would be classified as healthy. I just know that I have already outlived family and friends who were much more concerned about this than I have ever been. And if it's for the sake of how you look, well, I never had any problem attracting husbands when I wanted them
I received a life prognosis of 18 months when 26, had two alternatives, put myself in the hands of the medical profession, whose track record was and is dismal. Or take control of my life and try to create the environment where my body could survive and hopefully repair itself.
I'm 68, outlived just about everyone, especially all those who gave themselves to the medical profession and called me a fool for not adhering to their dictates and physical and psychological torture. Underwent time at peter Mc Callum clinic, horrible experience and decided I'd rather die than be subject to such horrendous torture, with no guarantee of anything, but a big bill at the end.
You want good health, then you have to create the right environment for it to happen. You wouldn't put petrol in your radiator, or water in your sump. Our bodies are biological machines and require specific fuels and maintenance to function and give good service, [put in rubbish and you get rubbish outcomes. Losing weight is easy if you eat the right foods and aren't addicted to debilitating chemically saturated junk.
No need to be fanatical, just consume the right diet, make sure you exercise as much as you can and that can be done in a wheel chair.
Heres an inspirational vegan lady mentioned in "I Digress"...
http://www.runningrawaroundaustralia.com/
Wow, I like this Duh! Gunna give it a try, been walking for ages and getting nowhere. Seems the older we get the harder the lard is to shift.
thanks for the tip.
jenni