For all those who have the family history bug I just thought I would let you know that Deniliquin, NSW is hosting a Genealogy Muster on 12-13 October 2012.
There will be quite a few well known guest speakers as well as lots of useful information stalls.
Why not consider taking a break in Deni, enjoy our river, enjoy our forest and research your family too.
If you would like more specific info please send me a PM and I will send you more info.
Rip and Rosie said
04:45 PM Jul 19, 2012
Yep, I'm a geni nut.......... What a wonderful idea for a muster.................
Oh to be in Deni When the Geni Muster's there (apologies to Robert Browning)
Rosie
kandagal said
04:52 PM Jul 19, 2012
Sounds like a great few days. Unfortunately we will be too far away to go. I am into genealogy & still have a bit more to do but I have got 1 of my family lines back to 1525 & another back to 1578 (that one I have every sibling in each generation). And with those 2, I was able to visit the towns in UK where they lived in Cornwall & there are still people there with the same surname so I was also able to meet relatives (well we shared the same great great great grandparents). Hope you have a nice time
Pam said
08:16 PM Jul 19, 2012
The most exciting discovery I have made it that my husband's Great Great Great Great Grandfather was one of the first free settlers in NSW arriving on a ship called the Bellona. Now here is the interesting bit, my sister's husband's Great Great Great Great Grandfather was one of the first free settlers in NSW arriving on a ship called the Bellona. They say it's a small world, they were even neighbours.
gordon_adl said
08:45 PM Jul 19, 2012
For those who want to use ancestry.com.au but don't want to pay for it, just go to www.mundia.com It's the same company but a free fully functioning version of their web site.
bill12 said
10:08 PM Jul 19, 2012
Isn,t geneology great. When I was in England, last time, one of my rellies did the family tree on my mothers side, and it goes back to 1206 in Christchurch( UK), and I went to the Catherderal and saw a I was related to a Norman knight who was burried in the grounds!On my fathers side, I,m related to the Duke ot Argyle, who sided with the poms at Colodan( where the english king slaughtered all the Jackobites!You couldn,t make this stuff up if you tried!.I,m glad I,m just a smelly fisherman............
Sheba said
01:59 AM Jul 20, 2012
A little bit OT, but I went to Culloden in the mid-60's. Heard the sounds of Battle, horse screams, and human. Unreal feeling.
A week later, went to Canada, [Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,] to visit friends, and as we stood outside their door, heard the exact sounds I had heard, inside.
Believe it or not, there was a Doco. on TV, about Culloden. Wierd.
Cheers,
Sheba.
Cruising Granny said
03:45 AM Jul 20, 2012
I'm not really into it. I'm the first of a very confusing line as a result of some hanky panky by the generation which begat me. Well, maybe not much hanky, but a hell of a lot of panky. I don't really know enough to even start looking.
Rip and Rosie said
04:23 PM Jul 20, 2012
Where to start is easy, CG. Always begin with YOU, work backwards one generation at a time.
You just write down what you know, and what you think you know.
If you want to PM me, I'll help you get going if you want.
Rosie
p.s there's hanky panky in everyone's tree.
Pam said
05:21 PM Jul 20, 2012
Rip and Rosie wrote:
p.s there's hanky panky in everyone's tree.
very true Rip and Rosie.
The other thing I find confusing is there didn't seem to be as many names around back then so you get confused to which 'William' is who and what generation.
There was also a habit when a child died young to name the next child the same name.
Or like one ancester had a child with a lady named Mary, child's name Charlotte. 2 years later had another child with a different lady named Mary. Any guesses to what the girl child was called?
Yep Charlotte.
Cruising Granny said
01:31 AM Jul 21, 2012
So did they have identity crisis? I tried on a couple of sites but one wants money and I can't get on with another, so I gave up.
Rip and Rosie said
04:58 PM Jul 21, 2012
There was what you call a "Naming" pattern in Scottish and Irish families.... and it makes researching both easier and harder at the same time.
I always know when a family is "mine"
The 1st son was usually named after the father's father The 2nd son was usually named after the mother's father The 3rd son was usually named after the father The 4th son was usually named after the father's eldest brother The 5th son was usually named after the mother's eldest brother The 1st daughter was usually named after the mother's mother The 2nd daughter was usually named after the father's mother The 3rd daughter was usually named after the mother The 4th daughter was usually named after the mother's eldest sister The 5th daughter was usually named after the father's eldest sister
and yes, the name was reused until a child survived, so the pattern continued.
In my own paternal scottish side, we had lots of shared names, and to identify them we referred to the as our Jack, Tom's Jack, uncle Jack... etc. It never seemed so bad with the girls who grew up to marry and take another surname. So we referred to them using the surname when married - our Marion, Marion Callaghan, Marion Scott.
gypsy rover said
05:50 PM Jul 21, 2012
Yep and you get two brothers with kids who all have the same names, so you have identical names in the one generation but with different parents. Very confusing!!
Cheers!
Chris
Rip and Rosie said
07:22 PM Jul 21, 2012
Yes, one of my Irish lines had so many kids in the local school with the same name they started giving them the mothers surname as a second name. Rosie
neilnruth said
04:37 AM Jul 22, 2012
Kandagal - where in Cornwall were your rellies asks my husband? He'd be interested to know. PM me if you don't want to put it on here.
chrisnchris said
08:03 PM Jul 22, 2012
hi all
Totally hooked on family history as well . always thought we came from Irish convicts and free settlers , boy was I wrong . French Irish German Kiwi Scottish and the list goes on
Cheers
Travel Bug said
10:58 PM Jul 22, 2012
Thanks for posting this Pam. I would love to go...have to see what I can work out.
Our family on my mum's side had a passion for "nick names"... They also had (what seems like a million) William, John, James and Mary christian names. Trying to match the names to the (often very unusual) nick names takes many frustrating...but interesting hours.
Cheers.
Pam said
04:13 AM Jul 23, 2012
Interesting naming thing Rip and Rosie.
Rip and Rosie said
04:18 PM Jul 23, 2012
So, seems like quite a few geni nomads on here. Not sure if we will compete with the fishermen though.
I love my genealogy, keeps me sane, helps me meet people, gives direction to my travels and opens up my family to me.
..... and my family tree smell better than old bait.
Pam said
11:56 PM Jul 23, 2012
I wonder sometimes if we should have another subforum for peoples hobbies/interests. Well we already have photography sort of so why not a fishing one. genealogy one. handicraft one, prospecting one etc.
Rip and Rosie said
04:05 PM Jul 24, 2012
I agree with you. I think it would be great to share discoveries, tips and brickwalls with fellow travellers.
Rosie
barina said
03:05 AM Aug 22, 2012
Just watching Robin Gibb (Bee Gees) on Who do you think you are. Interesting but very sad life his ancestors had, goes to show how you can move on....
Esmeralda said
03:38 AM Aug 23, 2012
I am doing my family too - on my mother's side I can go back to the late 800s - through people like Plantagenets and Richard the Lionheart and their forebears. There are all sorts Scots, French, Swedes, etc. There are even a few knights and a couple killed in the Crusades. Because of the royal connection there is a lot of information. The rest is a lot harder - not knowing German and many Irish records being destroyed. But I will persevere!!
Rip and Rosie said
05:35 AM Aug 23, 2012
Its like a giant jigsaw puzzle! I hate it when I have someone in there and than (after lots of work) realise that he/she doesn't fit, or doesn't belong to me. I hate taking it down and starting again.
Esmeralda said
01:35 AM Aug 25, 2012
There certainly seems to have been a lack of imagination as regards names - on the English side they even recycle the names - one Henrietta dies so the next girl is called Henrietta!! There is always Charles, William, George, Mary, Anne, Henietta, etc. The Irish ones are no better - Thomas, Patrick, James, William, Michael, Mary, Catherine and Anne in every family! And then they start again - i.e. Thomas marries Mary (another Mary) and has children and the names start all over again!!! Makes it very hard.
Helen
Rip and Rosie said
03:40 PM Aug 25, 2012
I reckon the naming patterns make it easier.
After about 1900 (more or less) they stopped using family names and you get heaps of fashionable names coming in, and I find it harder to identify family. You know- Daisy, Effie, Madge, Stella, Myrtle , Gladys. The boys seemed to get Victorian names- Alfred, Albert, Clarence, Reginald, etc.
God bless those researching this generation's names in 100 years- there is NO consistancy in the spelling, and parents go out of their way to give "special" names, like Georgia spelt Jorja, Gorje for George, Cidney instead of Sydney, Aeryn for Erin, Dafne -Daphne, Daysy-Daisy, Gabryella-Gabriella.
Pam said
06:29 PM Aug 25, 2012
Ancestry.com.au have free access to immigration records this week end for anyone who is interested. So you know what I will be doing for the rest of the week end. if I am lucky I might find something, if not I will have had fun looking.
Rip and Rosie said
12:42 AM Aug 26, 2012
I have world wide subs to find-my-past and to ancestry, and am happy to do look ups if anyone wants.
Rosie
Esmeralda said
02:51 AM Aug 26, 2012
I haven't bothered with USA because they appear to think that a great deal of people were born there rather than England, e.g. as mentioned earlier I have a Plantagenet ancestor and I received a hint the other day and it showed that she was born in the USA in 1057 or whatever the date was - the only people who lived in America at that time were the Indians. It has happened to me so many times I just delete those hints.
jules47 said
02:57 AM Aug 26, 2012
I Know Esmeralda - you are looking for the "royal" connection - so you can be a true princess!!!!!!!
For all those who have the family history bug I just thought I would let you know that Deniliquin, NSW is hosting a Genealogy Muster on 12-13 October 2012.
There will be quite a few well known guest speakers as well as lots of useful information stalls.
Why not consider taking a break in Deni, enjoy our river, enjoy our forest and research your family too.
If you would like more specific info please send me a PM and I will send you more info.
What a wonderful idea for a muster.................
Oh to be in Deni
When the Geni Muster's there (apologies to Robert Browning)
Rosie
Now here is the interesting bit, my sister's husband's Great Great Great Great Grandfather was one of the first free settlers in NSW arriving on a ship called the Bellona.
They say it's a small world, they were even neighbours.
A little bit OT, but I went to Culloden in the mid-60's. Heard the sounds of Battle, horse screams, and human. Unreal feeling.
A week later, went to Canada, [Saskatoon, Saskatchewan,] to visit friends, and as we stood outside their door, heard the exact sounds I had heard, inside.
Believe it or not, there was a Doco. on TV, about Culloden. Wierd.
Cheers,
Sheba.
I don't really know enough to even start looking.
You just write down what you know, and what you think you know.
If you want to PM me, I'll help you get going if you want.
Rosie
p.s there's hanky panky in everyone's tree.
very true Rip and Rosie.
The other thing I find confusing is there didn't seem to be as many names around back then so you get confused to which 'William' is who and what generation.
There was also a habit when a child died young to name the next child the same name.
Or like one ancester had a child with a lady named Mary, child's name Charlotte. 2 years later had another child with a different lady named Mary. Any guesses to what the girl child was called?
Yep Charlotte.
I tried on a couple of sites but one wants money and I can't get on with another, so I gave up.
I always know when a family is "mine"
The 1st son was usually named after the father's father
The 2nd son was usually named after the mother's father
The 3rd son was usually named after the father
The 4th son was usually named after the father's eldest brother
The 5th son was usually named after the mother's eldest brother
The 1st daughter was usually named after the mother's mother
The 2nd daughter was usually named after the father's mother
The 3rd daughter was usually named after the mother
The 4th daughter was usually named after the mother's eldest sister
The 5th daughter was usually named after the father's eldest sister
and yes, the name was reused until a child survived, so the pattern continued.
In my own paternal scottish side, we had lots of shared names, and to identify them we referred to the as our Jack, Tom's Jack, uncle Jack... etc.
It never seemed so bad with the girls who grew up to marry and take another surname. So we referred to them using the surname when married - our Marion, Marion Callaghan, Marion Scott.
Yep and you get two brothers with kids who all have the same names, so you have identical names in the one generation but with different parents. Very confusing!!
Cheers!
Chris
Rosie
hi all
Totally hooked on family history as well . always thought we came from Irish convicts and free settlers , boy was I wrong . French Irish German Kiwi Scottish and the list goes on
Cheers
Thanks for posting this Pam.
I would love to go...have to see what I can work out.
Our family on my mum's side had a passion for "nick names"...
They also had (what seems like a million) William, John, James and Mary christian names. Trying to match the names to the (often very unusual) nick names takes many frustrating...but interesting hours.
Cheers.
I love my genealogy, keeps me sane, helps me meet people, gives direction to my travels and opens up my family to me.
..... and my family tree smell better than old bait.
Rosie
I am doing my family too - on my mother's side I can go back to the late 800s - through people like Plantagenets and Richard the Lionheart and their forebears. There are all sorts Scots, French, Swedes, etc. There are even a few knights and a couple killed in the Crusades. Because of the royal connection there is a lot of information. The rest is a lot harder - not knowing German and many Irish records being destroyed. But I will persevere!!
I hate it when I have someone in there and than (after lots of work) realise that he/she doesn't fit, or doesn't belong to me. I hate taking it down and starting again.
There certainly seems to have been a lack of imagination as regards names - on the English side they even recycle the names - one Henrietta dies so the next girl is called Henrietta!! There is always Charles, William, George, Mary, Anne, Henietta, etc. The Irish ones are no better - Thomas, Patrick, James, William, Michael, Mary, Catherine and Anne in every family! And then they start again - i.e. Thomas marries Mary (another Mary) and has children and the names start all over again!!! Makes it very hard.
Helen
After about 1900 (more or less) they stopped using family names and you get heaps of fashionable names coming in, and I find it harder to identify family. You know- Daisy, Effie, Madge, Stella, Myrtle , Gladys. The boys seemed to get Victorian names- Alfred, Albert, Clarence, Reginald, etc.
God bless those researching this generation's names in 100 years- there is NO consistancy in the spelling, and parents go out of their way to give "special" names, like Georgia spelt Jorja, Gorje for George, Cidney instead of Sydney, Aeryn for Erin, Dafne -Daphne, Daysy-Daisy, Gabryella-Gabriella.
So you know what I will be doing for the rest of the week end. if I am lucky I might find something, if not I will have had fun looking.
Rosie
I haven't bothered with USA because they appear to think that a great deal of people were born there rather than England, e.g. as mentioned earlier I have a Plantagenet ancestor and I received a hint the other day and it showed that she was born in the USA in 1057 or whatever the date was - the only people who lived in America at that time were the Indians. It has happened to me so many times I just delete those hints.
I Know Esmeralda - you are looking for the "royal" connection - so you can be a true princess!!!!!!!
