That is one of the failings of this forum, Cindy wont allow it. It is her forum and we just have to go along with it.
I do not agree but there you are, we have no choice.
-- Edited by goinsoon on Saturday 28th of January 2012 12:38:20 PM
Red Dog said
05:57 PM Jan 28, 2012
Is there a part on this web site for gear for sale or wanted to Buy I havent seen one I was thinking maybe it would be a good idea, what say you all cheers Red Dog [Dave]
Ma said
10:12 PM Jan 28, 2012
You can advertise anything for sale on here if you pay Cindy's advertising fees.
goinsoon said
10:16 PM Jan 28, 2012
Ma wrote:
You can advertise anything for sale on here if you pay Cindy's advertising fees.
We are not commercial advertisers Ma, even the courier mail has a free section for small private ads and they totally rely on advertising
Ma said
10:17 PM Jan 28, 2012
I stand corrected Brian. Didn't know it was just for commercial interests. Sorry
goinsoon said
10:19 PM Jan 28, 2012
Ma wrote:
I stand corrected Brian. Didn't know it was just for commercial interests. Sorry
I might be wrong Elaine, please don't take anything I say as gospel, but I do feel that members should be able to trade things between members as do other forums, even a large commercial forum owned by a magazine
Ma said
10:22 PM Jan 28, 2012
It would be a great benefit to members Brian. It would also give the vendor and the purchaser for that matter a little bit more security as in they would be dealing with fellow members.
goinsoon said
10:29 PM Jan 28, 2012
Ma wrote:
It would be a great benefit to members Brian. It would also give the vendor and the purchaser for that matter a little bit more security as in they would be dealing with fellow members.
Maybe a members poll and submit result to Cindy
landy said
11:58 PM Jan 28, 2012
goinsoon wrote:
landy wrote:
goinsoon wrote:
Ma wrote:
It would be a great benefit to members Brian. It would also give the vendor and the purchaser for that matter a little bit more security as in they would be dealing with fellow members.
Maybe a members poll and submit result to Cindy
I have no axe to grind one way or the other, but I think Cindy has made her wishes clear and it should be left at that. Trying to force her hand is the wrong thing to do in my mind, after all there are plenty of other places you can advertise, if you wish.
Just my opinion. Landy.
And you are entitled to it and we should respect it just as you should realise that others have the right to disagree with you
I honestly don't think it was the intention to force Cindy's hand landy but surely it can't hurt for her to know that there are quite a number of members who consider this to be an advantage.
Untimately it is Cindy who will decide either to change her rules or let them stand and being the type of forum that we are the members will abide by that decision.
Good management of anything be it forumus or in business is down to gauging the wants, needs and wishes of the members or clients.
Hi Goinsoon & Ma
I do of course respect your right to disagree with my opinion, it would be a poor world if we all thought the same.
I have just observed, although I have only been a member here for a year or so, that this subject has come up several times and it appears that it is not a direction that Cindy wants to go in. I personally would leave it at that. But as already said just my opinion and I appreciate being able to voice it in a friendly forum.
Landy
-- Edited by landy on Sunday 29th of January 2012 08:56:02 AM
Red Dog said
03:16 AM Jan 29, 2012
Sorry Guys looks like I opened a can of worms, I did not no it was not aloud as I am a member of a 4x4 club which has online forum and you can pick up just about anything from other members, which is great as you know the full history of what you are getting.
So once again sorry my mistake Red Dog [Dave]
goinsoon said
05:25 AM Jan 29, 2012
Red Dog wrote:
Sorry Guys looks like I opened a can of worms, I did not no it was not aloud as I am a member of a 4x4 club which has online forum and you can pick up just about anything from other members, which is great as you know the full history of what you are getting.
So once again sorry my mistake Red Dog [Dave]
You did good, it needed airing, see the poll thread on this subject
landy said
05:50 AM Jan 29, 2012
goinsoon wrote:
Ma wrote:
It would be a great benefit to members Brian. It would also give the vendor and the purchaser for that matter a little bit more security as in they would be dealing with fellow members.
Maybe a members poll and submit result to Cindy
I have no axe to grind one way or the other, but I think Cindy has made her wishes clear and it should be left at that. Trying to force her hand is the wrong thing to do in my mind, after all there are plenty of other places you can advertise, if you wish.
Just my opinion. Landy.
goinsoon said
05:57 AM Jan 29, 2012
landy wrote:
goinsoon wrote:
Ma wrote:
It would be a great benefit to members Brian. It would also give the vendor and the purchaser for that matter a little bit more security as in they would be dealing with fellow members.
Maybe a members poll and submit result to Cindy
I have no axe to grind one way or the other, but I think Cindy has made her wishes clear and it should be left at that. Trying to force her hand is the wrong thing to do in my mind, after all there are plenty of other places you can advertise, if you wish.
Just my opinion. Landy.
And you are entitled to it and we should respect it just as you should realise that others have the right to disagree with you
Ma said
05:57 AM Jan 29, 2012
I honestly don't think it was the intention to force Cindy's hand landy but surely it can't hurt for her to know that there are quite a number of members who consider this to be an advantage.
Untimately it is Cindy who will decide either to change her rules or let them stand and being the type of forum that we are the members will abide by that decision.
Good management of anything be it forumus or in business is down to gauging the wants, needs and wishes of the members or clients.
goinsoon said
06:06 AM Jan 29, 2012
Ma wrote:
I honestly don't think it was the intention to force Cindy's hand landy but surely it can't hurt for her to know that there are quite a number of members who consider this to be an advantage.
Untimately it is Cindy who will decide either to change her rules or let them stand and being the type of forum that we are the members will abide by that decision.
Good management of anything be it forumus or in business is down to gauging the wants, needs and wishes of the members or clients.
Elaine, if I had the ability to string more than two words togeather, I could not have put it better myself
Vic said
09:51 AM Jan 29, 2012
The last post I remember on this subject was answered by Cindy who said she would take it on board and think about it. That was a couple of months ago or more, I don't recall seeing a post that said she wouldn't do it at all.
Has anyone had a pm from her to that effect?
Happywanderer said
10:08 AM Jan 29, 2012
This was answered by Cindy in the Buy Sell Poll thread last night.
For anyone who hasn't found it yet.
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:20:51 AM
Happywanderer said
10:18 AM Jan 29, 2012
Whoops, sorry, I've had a sleep since then.
It must be the poll thread. will go have a look.
I have changed my post earlier as have now found it in the Buy Sell Poll thread.
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:19:18 AM
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:22:22 AM
_wombat_ said
05:04 PM Jan 29, 2012
you are correct Vic, Cindy did say she would think about it.
I think Cindy is more concerned about the legal aspects of buying and selling on this site and does not want any kick back from failed sellars or buyers maybe laying blaime at her feet.
Most poeple do not read the posting guidelines of all forum's they join, there is one guideline that most people seem to be missing, here it is:
we all join this forum having read the guidelines or if some people did not read them then it is about time they did.
Red Dog said
06:04 PM Jan 29, 2012
You are right Wombat I admitt I did not read the posting guide lines and with much regret I posted what I thought {and still Do} was a good idea Red Dog {Dave}
Red Dog said
06:06 PM Jan 29, 2012
I have cast my vote and will stand by Cindys answer red Dog.
_wombat_ said
06:12 PM Jan 29, 2012
Red Dog wrote:
You are right Wombat I admitt I did not read the posting guide lines and with much regret I posted what I thought {and still Do} was a good idea Red Dog {Dave}
Dave, not many people do read the forum rules before joining, please do not think I was having a go at you, that was not my intention.
And do not regret posting what you did, it was a idea that you did not know the answer to and that is what this site is all about, helping others, sometime down the track you will be able to answer questions from other new members.
I also agree with your suggestion, I have voted yes in the other topic from GoinSoon
Enjoy your time here.
_wombat_ said
06:15 PM Jan 29, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
This was all answered by Cindy yesterday in a thread by her called "Deleted Thread"
As I thought from the last time this was brought to the fore she has said she is looking into it.
HW, have I missed something here, Cindy's "Deleted Thread" was about the burning flag topic, not about buying and selling.
Red Dog said
06:18 PM Jan 29, 2012
Thanks Wombat for your reply I am hear to learn and bow to the knowledge of others Red Dog {Dave}
goinsoon said
06:56 PM Jan 29, 2012
landy wrote:
goinsoon wrote:
landy wrote:
goinsoon wrote:
Ma wrote:
It would be a great benefit to members Brian. It would also give the vendor and the purchaser for that matter a little bit more security as in they would be dealing with fellow members.
Maybe a members poll and submit result to Cindy
I have no axe to grind one way or the other, but I think Cindy has made her wishes clear and it should be left at that. Trying to force her hand is the wrong thing to do in my mind, after all there are plenty of other places you can advertise, if you wish.
Just my opinion. Landy.
And you are entitled to it and we should respect it just as you should realise that others have the right to disagree with you
I honestly don't think it was the intention to force Cindy's hand landy but surely it can't hurt for her to know that there are quite a number of members who consider this to be an advantage.
Untimately it is Cindy who will decide either to change her rules or let them stand and being the type of forum that we are the members will abide by that decision.
Good management of anything be it forumus or in business is down to gauging the wants, needs and wishes of the members or clients.
Hi Goinsoon & Ma
I do of course respect your right to disagree with my opinion, it would be a poor world if we all thought the same.
I have just observed, although I have only been a member here for a year or so, that this subject has come up several times and it appears that it is not a direction that Cindy wants to go in. I personally would leave it at that. But as already said just my opinion and I appreciate being able to voice it in a friendly forum.
Landy
-- Edited by landy on Sunday 29th of January 2012 08:56:02 AM
If you look at Cindys reply on the poll thread you will see that is not the case, as she has said, she is aware of the situation and is giving it serious thought including how it may be implimented, by the way she spoke she did not indicate that she thought her hand was being forced at all.
And the idea of the poll was not at all to try and force her hand as you implied but rather get an idea of members feelings on the subject, no more, no less
_wombat_ said
07:11 PM Jan 29, 2012
Happywanderer wrote:
Whoops, sorry, I've had a sleep since then.
It must be the poll thread. will go have a look.
I have changed my post earlier as have now found it in the Buy Sell Poll thread.
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:19:18 AM
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:22:22 AM
HW, I have days like that too
peacewalker said
12:09 AM Jan 30, 2012
it is a shame we cant buy or sell on this site, because we are all new requiring ideas and trying to get ourselves on the road. i trust this site for valuable advice and information to us newies, I will stick behind cindy if that is her decision. But this could become a valuable tool but dont know the legal aspect of it all.
Cruising Granny said
01:57 AM Jan 30, 2012
I think the caution is about sales going belly up if negotiations fail between the 2 parties, which could affect the ambience of the forum. These things can get very personal. Go to Gumtree.
Jack Mac said
02:44 AM Jan 30, 2012
I think that what could possibly detract from the friendliness of this forum is the possibility of a purchaser/vendor becoming disgruntled after the event and, in the heat of the moment, posting opinions/views of the other person which don't add to the spirit of this forum.
Just a thought.
Ma said
06:44 AM Jan 30, 2012
Cindy has the last word on this subject and as such there is no point in debating this any further whether we agree or not is irrelevant .... just my opinion
-- Edited by Ma on Monday 30th of January 2012 06:47:07 AM
That is one of the failings of this forum, Cindy wont allow it. It is her forum and we just have to go along with it.
I do not agree but there you are, we have no choice.
-- Edited by goinsoon on Saturday 28th of January 2012 12:38:20 PM
Is there a part on this web site for gear for sale or wanted to Buy I havent seen one I was thinking maybe it would be a good idea, what say you all cheers Red Dog [Dave]
You can advertise anything for sale on here if you pay Cindy's advertising fees.
We are not commercial advertisers Ma, even the courier mail has a free section for small private ads and they totally rely on advertising
I stand corrected Brian. Didn't know it was just for commercial interests. Sorry
I might be wrong Elaine, please don't take anything I say as gospel, but I do feel that members should be able to trade things between members as do other forums, even a large commercial forum owned by a magazine
It would be a great benefit to members Brian. It would also give the vendor and the purchaser for that matter a little bit more security as in they would be dealing with fellow members.
Maybe a members poll and submit result to Cindy
I honestly don't think it was the intention to force Cindy's hand landy but surely it can't hurt for her to know that there are quite a number of members who consider this to be an advantage.
Untimately it is Cindy who will decide either to change her rules or let them stand and being the type of forum that we are the members will abide by that decision.
Good management of anything be it forumus or in business is down to gauging the wants, needs and wishes of the members or clients.
Hi Goinsoon & Ma
I do of course respect your right to disagree with my opinion, it would be a poor world if we all thought the same.
I have just observed, although I have only been a member here for a year or so, that this subject has come up several times and it appears that it is not a direction that Cindy wants to go in. I personally would leave it at that. But as already said just my opinion and I appreciate being able to voice it in a friendly forum.
Landy
-- Edited by landy on Sunday 29th of January 2012 08:56:02 AM
Sorry Guys looks like I opened a can of worms, I did not no it was not aloud as I am a member of a 4x4 club which has online forum and you can pick up just about anything from other members, which is great as you know the full history of what you are getting.
So once again sorry my mistake Red Dog [Dave]
You did good, it needed airing, see the poll thread on this subject
I have no axe to grind one way or the other, but I think Cindy has made her wishes clear and it should be left at that. Trying to force her hand is the wrong thing to do in my mind, after all there are plenty of other places you can advertise, if you wish.
Just my opinion. Landy.
And you are entitled to it and we should respect it just as you should realise that others have the right to disagree with you
I honestly don't think it was the intention to force Cindy's hand landy but surely it can't hurt for her to know that there are quite a number of members who consider this to be an advantage.
Untimately it is Cindy who will decide either to change her rules or let them stand and being the type of forum that we are the members will abide by that decision.
Good management of anything be it forumus or in business is down to gauging the wants, needs and wishes of the members or clients.
Elaine, if I had the ability to string more than two words togeather, I could not have put it better myself
The last post I remember on this subject was answered by Cindy who said she would take it on board and think about it. That was a couple of months ago or more, I don't recall seeing a post that said she wouldn't do it at all.
Has anyone had a pm from her to that effect?
This was answered by Cindy in the Buy Sell Poll thread last night.
For anyone who hasn't found it yet.
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:20:51 AM
Whoops, sorry, I've had a sleep since then.
It must be the poll thread. will go have a look.
I have changed my post earlier as have now found it in the Buy Sell Poll thread.
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:19:18 AM
-- Edited by Happywanderer on Sunday 29th of January 2012 10:22:22 AM
you are correct Vic, Cindy did say she would think about it.
I think Cindy is more concerned about the legal aspects of buying and selling on this site and does not want any kick back from failed sellars or buyers maybe laying blaime at her feet.
Most poeple do not read the posting guidelines of all forum's they join, there is one guideline that most people seem to be missing, here it is:
Do not solicit or advertise.
As shown here
http://www.activeboard.com/misc/guide.spark?aBID=51933
we all join this forum having read the guidelines or if some people did not read them then it is about time they did.
You are right Wombat I admitt I did not read the posting guide lines and with much regret I posted what I thought {and still Do} was a good idea Red Dog {Dave}
I have cast my vote and will stand by Cindys answer red Dog.
Dave, not many people do read the forum rules before joining, please do not think I was having a go at you, that was not my intention.
And do not regret posting what you did, it was a idea that you did not know the answer to and that is what this site is all about, helping others, sometime down the track you will be able to answer questions from other new members.
I also agree with your suggestion, I have voted yes in the other topic from GoinSoon
Enjoy your time here.
HW, have I missed something here, Cindy's "Deleted Thread" was about the burning flag topic, not about buying and selling.
Thanks Wombat for your reply I am hear to learn and bow to the knowledge of others Red Dog {Dave}
If you look at Cindys reply on the poll thread you will see that is not the case, as she has said, she is aware of the situation and is giving it serious thought including how it may be implimented, by the way she spoke she did not indicate that she thought her hand was being forced at all.
And the idea of the poll was not at all to try and force her hand as you implied but rather get an idea of members feelings on the subject, no more, no less
HW, I have days like that too
i trust this site for valuable advice and information to us newies, I will stick behind cindy if that is her decision. But this could
become a valuable tool but dont know the legal aspect of it all.
These things can get very personal.
Go to Gumtree.
I think that what could possibly detract from the friendliness of this forum is the possibility of a purchaser/vendor becoming disgruntled after the event and, in the heat of the moment, posting opinions/views of the other person which don't add to the spirit of this forum.
Just a thought.
Cindy has the last word on this subject and as such there is no point in debating this any further whether we agree or not is irrelevant .... just my opinion
-- Edited by Ma on Monday 30th of January 2012 06:47:07 AM